get together at xxmid...oops i mean EFlores' place 14 Feb

[eflores]

one moment please

 

[eflores]

Buffalo lake, iowa park tx

latitude 33.994725,
longitude -98.73425

thats the entrance to the lake on the east side

 

[eflores]

Lake Arrowhead
Thats about where you enter the off road domain

Latitude 33.725941,
Longitude -98.324127

 

[MischiefMan]

uh...am I missing something here...

If they are public lands they are governed by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. Neither of those places are listed as approved venues to drive a full-size OHV per the TPWD website. If this is the case, RRC should not be promoting wheeling out there.

 

[eflores]

i have personally contacted our president and his words are these.

Public property. No worries!
<J.R.>

 

[eflores]

just got off the phone with the city
we are allowed to use buffalo
apparently im not the only one who has called


arrowhead is still up in the air but i would assume since one is good so would be the other

 

[MischiefMan]

With all due respect to JR, the State and chapter 29 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code appear to indicates differently. *shrugs*

 

[ExTankerGuy]

Neither area is a problem. The city has been contacted several times concerning this matter.

 

[MischiefMan]

What does the TPWD say on the matter though? Game Warden's have far greater authority than local police departments.

 

[Kendrik]

What does the TPWD say on the matter though? Game Warden's have far greater authority than local police departments.

TPWD won't have authority on city-owned public lands, right? I'm fuzzy on land-ownership, though, so I could be wrong.

 

[eflores]

that would be my assumption but i have contacted TPWD and am impatiently awaiting a response

 

[MischiefMan]

Lake Arrowhead is a state park, so it falls under the jurisdiction of the TPWD. The Buffalo Creek Reservoir is controlled by the City of Iowa Park, but state regulations still apply.

I am trying to contact the TPWD to get a concrete answer.

 

[eflores]

this is must read! so who here wears their helmets while off roading???
tis a requirement!



Sec. 29.011. SAFETY APPAREL REQUIRED. (a) A person may not operate, ride, or be carried on an off-highway vehicle on public property unless the person wears:
(1) a safety helmet that complies with United States Department of Transportation standards; and
(2) eye protection.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class C Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor.

 

[MischiefMan]

TPWD won't have authority on city-owned public lands, right? I'm fuzzy on land-ownership, though, so I could be wrong.

Not true.

Chapter 29, section 29.002(b) of the Parks and Wildlife Code states:

The department shall establish and maintain trails and recreational areas for use by owners and riders of off-highway vehicles1) on public land over which the department has authority or on land purchased or leased by the department; or
(2) by making grants to federal agencies, political subdivisions of this state, and nonprofit organizations under Section 29.008.

IMHO, since the Department has authority on these lands with regard to fishing, game and wildlife, the rest of the regulations apply.

:lecture::lecture::lecture::lecture::lecture:

 

[eflores]

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PW/content/htm/pw.003.00.000029.00.htm#29.004.00

for every one else to read
this does wonders for my post count!!!

 

[xxmidianxx]

this is must read! so who here wears their helmets while off roading???
tis a requirement!



Sec. 29.011. SAFETY APPAREL REQUIRED. (a) A person may not operate, ride, or be carried on an off-highway vehicle on public property unless the person wears:
(1) a safety helmet that complies with United States Department of Transportation standards; and
(2) eye protection.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class C Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor.

I am pretty sure that applies to non OHVs. NOT our XJs. You might need to look into that some more... Maybe the park you are talking about doesn't allow OHVs. I don't know... doesn't concern me too much.

AND ITS ABOUT TIME you others follow the Houston Area's lead and host some get togethers else where.

 

[MischiefMan]

this is must read! so who here wears their helmets while off roading???
tis a requirement!



Sec. 29.011. SAFETY APPAREL REQUIRED. (a) A person may not operate, ride, or be carried on an off-highway vehicle on public property unless the person wears:
(1) a safety helmet that complies with United States Department of Transportation standards; and
(2) eye protection.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class C Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor.

oh, and you should have put this so others would have the proper definition:

Sec. 29.001. DEFINITION. In this chapter, "off-highway vehicle" means:
(1) an all-terrain vehicle, as defined by Section 663.001, Transportation Code;
(2) an off-highway motorcycle; and
(3) any other motorized vehicle used for off-highway recreation on:
(A) public land over which the department has authority or on land purchased or leased by the department; or
(B) land acquired or developed under a grant made under Section 29.008 or any other grant program operated or administered by the department.

Guess this means I'm out for Gilmer!

 

[eflores]

time to buy helmets

 

[goodburbon]

time to buy helmets

yeah, no.

 

[MischiefMan]

Does that mean you won't be going either Brandon? Certainly you aren't going to advocate the open violation of the law???

Perhaps we can get :: peeps to write their Representative to get the silly law changed?