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"Upgrades" you most regret spending money on
- Thread starter Lurch
- Start date
XJLI
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Long Island, NY
Meh, so far my hp44 has treated me well. I never broke a 260x ujoint on 33s though, I'm usually not a pedal masher offroad.
94xjsport94
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Carrollton, GA
I regret not trying to convert mine to 4wd earlier...
Outlander560
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- New York
44 isnt a bad axle...i think a 60 front end is just to big for my rig since it's my only vehicle and I DD it. I rather put money into a 44 then a 30....i dunno maybe thats just me
Boostwerks.com
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado
Used gears and a Detroit "soft locker"
Should have gone new and ARB from the get go
Should have gone new and ARB from the get go
rocknxj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Clinton, Utah (SLC area)
I'd have to say my biggest regret so far has to be my ACOS upgrade. Taller coils would have been a better option and the ride would be better.
- Location
- Colorado Springs, CO
Buying this POS terra-locker:
Frank Z
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado Springs
Oh snap!!
DrMoab
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- The Utah Backwater
Literally...
chedisme
NAXJA Member
- Location
- middletown, NY
not reading the add close enough and buying a 30spline elocker for my 35 spline 60.
MaxxXJ
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bakersfield CA
My buddy never broke a u joint either until he installed a front locker, then within a few weeks he snapped one trying to climb onto the cement part of a light at t-bell. I have replacement 297x shafts that will replace my 260's if they every break.
Vanimal
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- escondido, ca
i just dont see the point when you'd have the same weak link, the u joints. i know you can do rcv's or ctm's but then you'd be into it for more than a dana 60 for a weaker axle.
- Location
- Central Maine
buying a Honda Pilot instead of a Grand Cherokee :doh:
and buying a 01 WJ 4.0 for my 00 XJ and not realizing how much drilling and tapping would be necessary to fit it in
and buying a 01 WJ 4.0 for my 00 XJ and not realizing how much drilling and tapping would be necessary to fit it in
Lowrange2
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Abbeville, SC
Ring and pinions.
So far the only thing I've broken on the 44 is one hub.
I couldn't keep pinions in the Dana 30 to save my life.
The 30 was built very similar to how the 44 is.
Cover, truss, chromo shafts, super joints... the only difference between the two is the Dana 30 had a lock-rite in the stock carrier and the 44 has a full case Detroit in it.
The 30 held it's own for the most part with the hell it went thru on 35's. I guess I just regret it since I lost a boat load of cash when I sold it. I built the 30 with all brand new parts and built the 44 at a fraction of the price by finding great condition used stuff at good prices.
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DrMoab
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- The Utah Backwater
What's so different on them? I figured they would be the same.
- Location
- Central Maine
About 6 or 7 motor mount holes, valve cover needs to be shaved down, had to fill ax bracket and re drill......had to get crossover mounts from brown dog that cost more than the engine, but they are the best mod I've ever done
You know, not much:soapbox:
You know, not much:soapbox:
This, among other things.
It's comical to me how people argue that the problem with the D44 is the u-joint, which makes it as weak as a D30. Most u-joint failures occur because the caps start to spin off. If you get Spicer non-greasable u-joints and weld the caps you eliminate this problem. The u-joint will still break, but much, much later - most likely the hub will go first. To me this argument is the same as saying that if you go to a D60 that's not a king-pin then it's no stronger than a D44 because it has ball joints...
What's stronger about an older D44 vs a D30 is just the tubes, center section, shafts, inner C's, knuckles, ring and pinion, brakes and hubs... Even if you get RCV shafts in a D30 and an ARB, you can still get so much gear deflection that if you don't shred your gears you will eventually walk the bolts out of the ARB and they will grenade your gears. Google it.
An older D44 (Waggy/FSJ/70s-80s truck) with gears, locker and welded u-joint caps is flat out stronger than a D30 with the same setup. Obviously not as strong as a D60 with the same setup (even a ball joint 60) but that maybe overkill for many.
Just sayin'
- Location
- Rainy side of Washington
sez the guy who took a dana 44 and put dana 30 outers on it :wow:
how did the same weak link do with that setup :spin1:
(it's my weak link too, but I run stock auto gearing in my 30 so at most a new one costs $130 at the junkyard, and comes with $60 in spare shafts and $20 in spare steering)
spicer 760's and full circle clips, seen many blown up D30 r&p's of various gear ratios with that setup, so whats the weak link again
