ok caykaaro i tried what you have said. we hooked a wire directly from the positive on the battery to the post labled I on the relay. but now get this. when we go to hook the negative back up th starter starts clicking. and i dont have the key in the ignition. i dont want to just ignore that and hook it up because i am sick of replacing parts. so maybe you can tell me what i am doing wrong. it dosnt actually turn over when i do it it just clicks and clicks really fast. and the key isnt even in the ignition. if i understand you right it shouldnt do anything unless the key is in and on. and with the bridged like that it should work as normal with it briged. any ideas anybody?