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Pulling the Motor

xj89

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Alrite so ive decided that im going to be pulling the motor in the ole XJ. My main reason for this are that. The rear main leak has goten horribly worse in the summwer heat, the oil pan leaks everywere. The mottor mounts are shot, and the oil pump is on its way out. Also im debating on stroking it. I have a few questions though.
First off should i pull the motor and trans at the same time as a whole unit, or just diconnect the motor fron the trasn and leave it in there, I dont need to pull it but if it will be easier then trying to reach all the bolts ill take it out as well.
My second question is when i pull it i need to remove the AC condensor and radiator to allow the enjine to slide out right?
My third question is, do i need a shop to Stroke it, or is it a home mechanic type thing?, how much does the kit cost, how much in labor to have it done.
Forth question is how difficult will this be, i know i gota remove exhasut and intake manifold, all hoses and wires. disconnect from motor mounts and trans mounts if i do them both.


any other adviced or things you encountered while pulling your motor fill me in with. thanks guys
 
You can go either way - pull the engine only, or pull engine and trans. However, I find that it's usually easier to pull engine/trans together on front-wheel drive (back when I actually used to work on that crap) than it is to pull both together with RWD or 4WD - and the 242 tips at a little short of 500#! That big, I'd like to keep it small, so I can handle it easier.

Given a choice, I'll pull the engine with the manifolds in place - the same way I pull the head. I might actually pull the head first, then pull the short block (you'd then have the head bolt holes and more options to attach the puller.) You can then use SAE Grade 8 bolts in 1/2-13 to attach the chain, and leave yourself a little room so you don't whack the chain links into the deck. I'd also suggest hardened washers under the bolt heads (to hold the chain) and "cleaned" fender washers between the chain and the block deck (so the chain doesn't booger it up - the chain is harder than the cast iron engine. By "cleaned," I mean take a few minutes to find and remove any sharp edges or stamping flash, and round off all the inside and outside radii. Use brass, if you can find it.)

Stroking the 242 can be as easy - or as hard - as you can make it. It's theoretically possible to stroke the engine "in place" - without pulling the block - but with the issues you're talking about, you're probably better off pulling the block. Have it boiled and checked out by a decent machine shop, and see if they recommend boring the cylinders to clean them up. Accept the minimum bore you can (usually .030" over,) unless you have a reason to go larger. You'll need to know the final bore size before you can buy pistons and rings.

Meanwhile, you can go ahead and get your crankshaft and rods - you'll need the crankshaft and connecting rods from a 258 engine. There are, as I recall, three different 258 cranks out there - they all have their own peculiar advantages - and the difference is in the number of counterweights they use.

Four-weight - a good crankshaft for running at high speeds and when rapid throttle response is desired. The overall lighter crankshaft - coupled with the lower "moment arm" from fewer weights - will also help to cut parasitic drag. You should only really look for one of these if you plan on getting silly.

Eight-weight (or is it six? I'd have to check..) - The middle ground. Eight counterweights offer more precise balancing with a good machinist (or at least one that gives a damn,) but the crankshaft is heavier, which means it takes more torque to spin it and throttle response will be slower than the four-weight - but you're not building a ricer, so that's not much of an issue.

Twelve-weight - This is the big one, and it's usually harder to find. Works well with manual transmissions, since the extra counterweights work kinda like an "inertia ring" that would be put in the flywheel. The extra intertia will help to reduce stalling at takeoffs, but it will also (slightly) delay throttle response - again, not a huge issue, since we're not building little four-popper riceboy engines here.

The inline six is usually considered as a powerplant designed to make good useful low-end torque, and to spin at a given speed all day long - that's what it does well. That's why Cummins still specialises in the inline six Diesel, and why they're damn good engines.

The crankshaft weight is not as great a problem as it could be, since I6's aren't designed to spin up around 10,000-12,000 RPM like V8's and those puny little I4's. A redline of 6,000 RPM is plenty for us.

If you are able to follow instructions, you should be able to assemble the stroker yourself once you have the block seen to and the parts in hand - only a few special tools are needed - and they're commonly available. As far as paying for it, if you provide the parts, the going rate for assembling an engine (check your machinist's bill of services,) should apply - no special work is necessary beyond any boring of the block. Crank/rod clearance isn't really an issue until you get up around a 4" stroke. If you are confident in your ability to assemble an engine properly, it should be no trouble for you to do the "stroker" mod.

When pulling the engine, you'll pick up some space if you pull the fan and fan clutch off the front - or just pull the AC compressor aside and remove that bracket. (Granted, this is advice for RENIX only!) There is a hidden bolt at the bottom of that bracket - but getting it out is worth about 3" of extra clearance up front, and that's not a little!

The only advice I can really give is specific to RENIX at the moment (that's all I've got - four RENIX XJ's,) but if you tell us more about what you're working on, you will get better advice. Just trying to help...

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well im working on an 89, so therefour its the renix model. ive deicded agaisnt stroking it, but the information you gave to me was usefull. I think im going to leave the trasn atached and then disconnect it while its out. Then put the motor in a stand. its got so much gunk and road grime on it from the oil leak that it wont hurt to clean her up and chuck a coat of paint on it. A nother question. I dont think its dificult to remove the trans from T-case right? that i can leave bolted in or should i just pull that as well?
 
By the time you get done wrestling with everyting, you're probably going to be happier separating the engine and pulling it, leaving the transmission in the vehicle to pull later. Also, one of the tcase-to-trans studs hides behind the operating linkage, and you'd have to pull it apart anyhow. Pull the engine alone.

The lower bellhousing bolts are something fairly large - 3/4" or something like that. The upper bellhousing bolts require an "E12" external Torx socket - just get a set, since you'll need some more later. Replace the upper bell bolts with hex head capscrews - 3/8"-16 thread, and match the underhead length. I'd use either stainless or SAE Grade 8 for replacements.

If you've got an automatic, you'll need to detach the torque converter from the flexplate (four bolts, I think they want a 15m/m socket;) if it's a manual, just pull the clutch out on the flywheel and service it outside the vehicle. Either way, there are only four bolts that hold the engine to the transmission. You'll make it easier on yourself if you lower the transmission to reach the upper bolts, the loosely bolt the crossmember back up while you're pulling the engine.

If it's the automatic, I'd suggest giving the flexplate a good inspection - or just replacing the damn thing outright. They have an annoying tendency to start cracking around the crankshaft flange, and you've got the thing torn out anyhow.

Now is also a good time to refresh all the sensors while you're at it - it's one of those things that wants doing every now and then, and it will help fuel mileage.

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