PDA

View Full Version : A Day At The Cliffs ORP


Swap
January 4th, 2005, 08:02
I went to Cliffs on Sunday and The first part of the day was great with lots of mud and off camber climbs and decents BUT, the last part of the day was alittle ruff! I took on some damage, lets see only one door panal is straight, broken tail light lens, and some damage to the pass, side fender and driver-side rear flare is just about ripped off. I also found that I bend the crap out of the Grand Cherokee tie-rod. That would explain why my steering-wheel is about 90 degrees off. I'm glade i up-graded to the GC tie-rod when i did, the stock XJ's tie-rod wouldn't have stood a chance!. BOY, not again when it rains the day before or even a week before. In some parts of that park damn, just about most of the park MTR's don't have a chance if it rains!

Beezil
January 4th, 2005, 08:09
so basically, its nothin more than mud?

post up pics or ban!

lesslimited
January 4th, 2005, 08:11
Intrepids got a bunch of pics on GLJT

Looks like a place I don't need to go, until we've had a long drought

Rev Den
January 4th, 2005, 13:53
I can honestly say that Cliffs is a place best left for quads. It is to small and WAY to muddy for Jeeps.

JMHO.

Rev

Lawn Cher'
January 4th, 2005, 14:00
I can honestly say that Cliffs is a place best left for quads. It is to small and WAY to muddy for Jeeps.

JMHO.

Rev

Agreed. Way too tight for comfortable wheeling. I dented all 4 doors, a rear quarter, rain gutter, and pulled off a fender flare and a bumper cap on an otherwise unmolested '01. Wifey won't let me live it down.

bgcntry72
January 4th, 2005, 14:02
Quad park or landfill?
Decisions....decisions....decisions.
:laugh2:

Gil BullyKatz
January 4th, 2005, 14:06
Quad park or landfill?
Decisions....decisions....decisions.
:laugh2:


When all else fails...
Or costs money...

Alsip!

Lawn Cher'
January 4th, 2005, 14:15
Paging ChicagoStyleXJ!

BOB
January 4th, 2005, 16:22
I went to Cliff's about a month ago. I was lucky enough to go on a COLD day and not deal with too much mud. The trails are way narrow. Good place for Wranglers (Cheerleaders drive Wranglers) and Samuri's. Too many trees. Always stopping and going back and forth to get through the winding trails. The creek is nice. I think Steve is the owner. He is a nice guy. I wish him luck. But, it is not very well set up for XJ's. (at this time)

Truth
January 4th, 2005, 17:28
Tom drives a 112 inch wheelbase Toyota in there on a regular basis. An XJ is 101 right? Why do XJ guys have so many problems avoiding trees? There are easier trails for you Xj guys so don't feel left out.

Gil BullyKatz
January 4th, 2005, 17:36
Hmmm....
http://bcornet.homestead.com/files/Chilbolton/troll.gif
:D

PhunkXJ
January 4th, 2005, 18:09
Damn Tim, you're junk is starting to sound similar to mine!! :laugh3:

The only door that's straight on my XJ is the one on the glove box.

The cliffs is not my idea of fun, I'll take the landfill anyday. The quads and swb boys can have it!

Swap
January 4th, 2005, 19:33
Here's a couple of Pic's!

http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79548859.jpg

http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79548829.jpg

And Here It Starts, landed on one side and then the other.

http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79548782.jpg

Beezil
January 4th, 2005, 19:46
There are easier trails for you Xj guys so don't feel left out.

If we were looking for easier trails, we'd just show up for a GLJT run!
:D

IntrepidXJ
January 4th, 2005, 20:33
here's all my pics from the trip swap has posted about

http://www.myxj.net/trail/The_Cliffs_1-2-05/

IntrepidXJ
January 4th, 2005, 20:34
Tom drives a 112 inch wheelbase Toyota in there on a regular basis. An XJ is 101 right? Why do XJ guys have so many problems avoiding trees? There are easier trails for you Xj guys so don't feel left out.

yeah...but tom also carries a chainsaw and removes trees where he doesn't fit :wave:

IntrepidXJ
January 4th, 2005, 20:35
so basically, its nothin more than mud?


you got that right

IntrepidXJ
January 4th, 2005, 20:37
But, it is not very well set up for XJ's. (at this time)

There are definately some tight trails.....but I've been to the cliffs a number of times, and there are a bunch of good trails that are fun and not too tight. my favorite is 7.....it wasn;t even bad with all the rain we had this time :)

bgcntry72
January 5th, 2005, 06:17
There are definately some tight trails.....but I've been to the cliffs a number of times, and there are a bunch of good trails that are fun and not too tight. my favorite is 7.....it wasn;t even bad with all the rain we had this time :)

Yeah, but don't you have a cage?
:rolleyes:

bgcntry72
January 5th, 2005, 06:21
Nice pants.
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79548829.jpg
:roflmao:

IntrepidXJ
January 5th, 2005, 06:31
Yeah, but don't you have a cage?
:rolleyes:

no, i don't have a cage.

Swap
January 5th, 2005, 06:52
I wonder who this is?

http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79593913.jpg

Truth
January 5th, 2005, 21:43
If we were looking for easier trails, we'd just show up for a GLJT run!
:D




You could, but that would mean you'd have to wheel! I'm assuming your rig is still in peices? I'll be there on the 9th!

Seriously guys, Cooter has led around stock full size bronco's out there with NO body damage. 101" is still SWB as far as I'm concerned. Your XJ's will fit just fine. Stock S10 blazers wheel out there, Nissan Xterra's, you name it. There is a lot of mud, especially when it's wet. But hey, this is the midwest.

What Rd
January 5th, 2005, 21:56
Hey Kyle -
If these pics are indicative of what's too tight and too muddy, you'd better be selective on inviting people out to the chicken farm!
:rolleyes:

btw: that green Suzuki with the exo is the one I met up with at RORP to hand off your tires.

What Rd
January 5th, 2005, 22:01
Nice pants.
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79548829.jpg
:roflmao:

Thanx! Wheeling in jammies? This ain't the wheeling fashion forum, but . . .
:dunno:

TRL WGN 1
January 6th, 2005, 06:11
Hey Kyle -
If these pics are indicative of what's too tight and too muddy, you'd better be selective on inviting people out to the chicken farm!
:rolleyes:

btw: that green Suzuki with the exo is the one I met up with at RORP to hand off your tires.

Yeah, Jeff, I figured it was. And the "Cooter" mentioned in the post above is the one who bought the tires. I believe Zack is the one with the Sami. Nice looking rig. Oh, and BTW, that white Sami is the one I was telling you about. That guy also has a nice Bronco. (if it the same guy I am thinking, can't remember his name)

No kidding on the tight thing. Looks like some nice wide roads compared to a few locations we have LOL. Now that I thinki about it, nearly all the body "enhancements" that my rig has received, have come from our farm LOL.

In all honesty, RORP has trails that are as tight as those (from what I can tell from the Pics, as I have yet to go to the Cliffs). Thing is, at RORP, the ones that are tight like that, you run them uphill, not down. In all fairness though, I have heard from a couple TRJC members that the Cliffs is a tight park.

What Rd
January 6th, 2005, 06:18
As you tear away things like flares, mirrors, drip rails, etc., the rig gets narrower and fits more easily through the tighter spots. We call this a self-correcting problem.

TRL WGN 1
January 6th, 2005, 06:28
As you tear away things like flares, mirrors, drip rails, etc., the rig gets narrower and fits more easily through the tighter spots. We call this a self-correcting problem.

Eggs-Actly!

PhunkXJ
January 6th, 2005, 08:11
whatever, you guys can defend the cliffs all you want, mud SUX.

the only folks I see with hard ons for that place have ugly rigs and they don't care about losing a door panel or fender.
There is no challenge in wheeling like that, any schmuck can hop in his "rig" and smash it up.

when it comes to slop like that, it's hard to control exactly where your junk goes, no matter what your wheel base is, how great of a driver you are, or how tight the trails are or aren't.

and whoever is wearing those awful pants, no this isn't a fashion forum, but do you look in the mirror before you leave the house? dayum, some people shouldn't be allowed to dress themselves.

IntrepidXJ
January 6th, 2005, 09:09
whatever, you guys can defend the cliffs all you want, mud SUX.

i dislike mud as well, however, i always have a good time when i go to the cliffs. but i'll take rocks anyday over mud.


the only folks I see with hard ons for that place have ugly rigs and they don't care about losing a door panel or fender.
There is no challenge in wheeling like that, any schmuck can hop in his "rig" and smash it up.


you calling my XJ ugly ;) i seem to recall a red XJ that got beat up at the badlands, too.....and then there was the most carnage at NAC award :laugh3:


when it comes to slop like that, it's hard to control exactly where your junk goes, no matter what your wheel base is, how great of a driver you are, or how tight the trails are or aren't.


yes, the way it was saturday, it was very sloppy because of all the rain and there was little control in some spots....however, the cliffs is not always like that. there are plenty of trails that dry out and are fun to run, and require some driving skill. tral #7 had plenty of control and was a lot of fun, even after the rain.

jjchgo
January 6th, 2005, 09:34
There is no challenge in wheeling like that, any schmuck can hop in his "rig" and smash it up.


true some just dont have the money or desire to fix it everytime they smash it up.

cheers,

jj

PhunkXJ
January 6th, 2005, 10:08
you calling my XJ ugly ;) i seem to recall a red XJ that got beat up at the badlands, too.....and then there was the most carnage at NAC award :laugh3:



We're not talking about the Badlands, and I don't recall you ever being around for my "beatings," or else you would know that I work damn hard for the dents and scratches on my XJ.

As far as the most carnage award, come awn!!! Dude, my tires popped my flares off.

I was at the cliffs when there was no rain for weeks prior (not in my junk), and it sucked, there was way too much recovery going on.

edit: typo

Beezil
January 6th, 2005, 10:49
whatever, you guys can defend the cliffs all you want, mud SUX.

the only folks I see with hard ons for that place have ugly rigs and they don't care about losing a door panel or fender.
There is no challenge in wheeling like that, any schmuck can hop in his "rig" and smash it up.



X infinite.

I'd like to see these poseurs with "big dog" rigs actually drive some "big dog" trails.

Last winterfest, i remembered quite a few monster rigs (not just xjs) that are built to the hilt, but wouldn't go anywhere NEAR difficult trails or rock/boulders....

We know what thats all about.....I guess it LOOKS cooler to be a king on green/orange trail then a suck-ass on the harder trails....

Most of the people that have tried throwing shit my way for my frequent roll overs on purgatory, simply don't have the balls to follow me on it.

swap, don't worry about what happened to your thread dude, not directed at you at all......

but really, when it comes to mud wheeling, just because the conditions are nasty, doesn't mean you are.

IntrepidXJ
January 6th, 2005, 11:11
We're not talking about the Badlands, and I don't recall you ever being around for my "beatings," or else you would know that I work damn hard for the dents and scratches on my XJ.

I was at the cliffs when there was no rain for weeks prior (not in my junk), and it sucked, there was way too much recovery going on.



i was just trying to point out that you can get damage anywhere you wheel. you can also avoid it, too.

you can get a lot of experience with recovery at the cliff's when it's wet :)

bgcntry72
January 6th, 2005, 11:26
As far as the most carnage award, come awn!!! Dude, my tires popped my flares off.

x4.
I did that because that thing was too damn pretty, and I wanted you to think more about your rig than what satellite station to listen to next.
I knew I had your trust as spotter, so why not abuse it?
I took you across a ditch at 45* angle.
Good thing he didn't see you teetering on that lower control arm, or pulling your leaf out of your wheel, or rotating the spring plates, or.....you know.
That was a great day of wheeling, and even Madam smiled a couple of times.
'Is it morning yet?'
'Shhh, listen for the clicking'
:roflmao:

PhunkXJ
January 6th, 2005, 11:49
You didn't do much, Scott.
I pop flares off going over the speed bumps at the mall, you look at those things funny and they fall off. NACfest was the first time in months my flares had been on the XJ.

Rev Den
January 6th, 2005, 11:51
you can get a lot of experience with recovery at the cliff's when it's wet :)

'specially when you go there with the GLJT crowd, and have the only 2 winches....right Sean?

Really...I like mud....but the Cliffs is just two small and too muddy ALL THE TIME, everyplace, to really have any fun.

Will I go back? Sure....on the quad
Did I have fun with the XJ? Sure....I used my slow ass winch more in that 6 hours than ever before...or since.

JMHO


Rev


Oh....BTW....Mud may suck, but rocks bite....I would rather be.... :laugh3:

Urban Redneck
January 6th, 2005, 12:13
'Is it morning yet?'
'Shhh, listen for the clicking'
:roflmao:
:flame:

Gil BullyKatz
January 6th, 2005, 12:59
Alsip Alsip Alsip...


If not...There's this construction zone by my work...
The work crews leave at about 3pm...


:D

Rev Den
January 6th, 2005, 13:51
If not...There's this construction zone by my work...
The work crews leave at about 3pm...
:D

I hear the curbs you have to climb over to get there can really screw up leaf springs.

:laugh3:

Rev

Gil BullyKatz
January 6th, 2005, 14:57
I hear the curbs you have to climb over to get there can really screw up leaf springs.

:laugh3:

Rev

ya betcha...
but that would be the "urban wheeling" thread
:D

Truth
January 8th, 2005, 20:23
my frequent roll overs


Do you fetch too?

And if you can lick your own balls I am officially jealous.

Yeah, I probably won't follow you on purgatory. My "rig" is way to tiny, and I can't even parallel park! Beezil is officially hardcore ... just in case some one hasn't noticed.

Cooter
January 10th, 2005, 10:11
X infinite.

I'd like to see these poseurs with "big dog" rigs actually drive some "big dog" trails.


Maybe you should get out on the "big dog" trails more...
http://www.rorp.com/Events/2003/03-10_Tombstone/PhotoPage7/images/152_JPG.jpg

http://www.rorp.com/Events/2003/03-10_Tombstone/PhotoPage9/images/Tom_Stage3j_jpg.jpg

http://www.rorp.com/Events/2003/03-10_Tombstone/PhotoPage9/images/Tom_Stage3b_jpg.jpg

http://www.my4x4pics.com/data/media/40/fb1ddaa3.jpg

http://www.my4x4pics.com/data/media/40/DSC01248.jpg

http://www.my4x4pics.com/data/media/40/DSC01670.JPG

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL11/870615/2641660/32884338.jpg

http://www.my4x4pics.com/data/media/40/Classic_Purgetory.jpg

http://www.my4x4pics.com/data/media/40/185404895sdqvGv_ph.jpg

None of us at The Cliffs have even used the term "big dog" (we just go out and wheel), but the offer still stands to go wheeling whenever you want.

(If you still don't have your rig together or just don't like riding with BJ, you can right seat with me, Beezil)

Yeah, that was me, Kyle (I'm Ambassador Cooter here, though). The name you are thinking of is Tom.

TRL WGN 1
January 10th, 2005, 12:10
Ah, Tom, that's right.

Ambassador Cooter huh? Interesting, I think LOL. :laugh3:

Hey, I got the pics of your rigs. M170 definitely has potential, and the TJ looks pretty nice as well.

Oh and BTW, I was at the competion with the White Bronco. Was impressive to say the least.

Cooter
January 10th, 2005, 12:27
Hey, I got the pics of your rigs. M170 definitely has potential, and the TJ looks pretty nice as well.



Then someone must be sending pix of a different M170 and TJ in an email .

Are you sure you're talking about the same Pix I am?:rolleyes:

TRL WGN 1
January 11th, 2005, 05:55
Then someone must be sending pix of a different M170 and TJ in an email .

Are you sure you're talking about the same Pix I am?:rolleyes:


Yeah, same ones. I just have a different sense of potential and a very different definition of nice looking than most people. It is a gift :sunshine:

Hell, I think this thing is beautiful!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/TRLWGN1/ThomasKyle5729.jpg

Tick
January 22nd, 2005, 17:43
Nice pants.
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL472/2951935/5967026/79548829.jpg
:roflmao:
thanks for the compliment. I love the cliffs,..............very challenging