erp467
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remember just cause they cant gve you a ticket for no doors doesnt mean they wont look for everything else they can hit you for
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XJ with no Doors Illegal???
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erp467
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from http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/11/11.14.02.17.htm
(1) Doors or door parts are missing, broken, or sagging so that the door cannot be tightly closed.
this is for state inspections, they probaly would only give you a fix it ticket for it but that doesn't mean they won't find a reason to fine you. same as if they can't see you front plate cause its in the windsheld, usually its just a fix it ticket but can include a fine of $50
(1) Doors or door parts are missing, broken, or sagging so that the door cannot be tightly closed.
this is for state inspections, they probaly would only give you a fix it ticket for it but that doesn't mean they won't find a reason to fine you. same as if they can't see you front plate cause its in the windsheld, usually its just a fix it ticket but can include a fine of $50
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erp467 said:
Well bravo, at least one guy actually looked up the law.
All this "My buddy told me" "A cop told me" "I heard one time" "I did it without getting busted" bullshit is worthless.
If you want to bend the rules, you need to take the time to actually learn the rules.
Robert
erp467
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and this is how i bent the law. there are doors so most cops don't want to seem to hassle wth it
Ray H
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He didnt look up Texas law though. The OP is from Texas.Robert 771 said:
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Ray H said:
Yeah, and I looked up Ohio law.
My point was that the OP (and everyone else) is responsible for his own compliance. I'm not willing to research all 50 states' laws, and I wouldn't expect anyone to take my word for it if I did.
That kind of he-said, she-said, a-cop-told-me, or I-read-on-the-internet don't mean squat.
You've got to learn the law for yourself.
Robert
vetteboy
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Robert 771 said:
Hey - not only did I look it up, I fought the law, and I won.
Kind of.
You're right though, all the information in this thread is worthless unless you take the time to research your own situation with legitimate sources.
Nothing in the Maryland laws specifically states that doors cannot be removed. Under the used vehicle inspection section, it does mention something about door handles, but it shouldn't matter if they are functioning if they aren't even on the vehicle
It does, however, say that the side rails or either bumper cannot be above a height of 20 inches. Pretty sure my 3" lifted jeep is over 20" off the ground.
It does, however, say that the side rails or either bumper cannot be above a height of 20 inches. Pretty sure my 3" lifted jeep is over 20" off the ground.
wolfpackjeeper
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looking up the laws is probably good, but if you dont drive like a dick you will be better off. Try to prove that you are right and you will get a ticket for something, drive like an asshole and you grab the initial attention. but if you drive responsibly and are curious and polite then no ticket for you. Chances are that the cop has never looked it up or had to so he is going to be unsure anyway.
cherokee chuck
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:cheers: this thread wasn't about bead locks but the answer to the bead lock question is that most bead locks aren't U.S D.O.T. approved-therefore illeagal. just like most h4 headlight conversions etc. I've never heard of anyone here in Wa. state being ticketed but they are technicaly illeagal if your state requires all parts to be D.O.T. approved. back in the 70s I remember guys drilling holes in their rims & using sheet metal screws to lock them like the old time drag racers. now days there are so many guys running fake beadlocks they would have to pull you over for some other reason first. also city type cops tend to be a lot more c.s. about this stuff than rural cops.
emr1101
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one thing to note about doorless (i know this thread isnt focused on the technicalities of going doorless, but hte legal aspects, but whatever...) is that (at least on 97+) the hinge holes on the body have a LARGER bore than the hinge holes on the doors. This will make it so that no matter what size bolt you use, they WILL still sag. The solution is to bore out the door hinge holes a little bit so theyre hte same size as the body hinge holes, then get appropriate sized bolts, or cotter pins or quick pins or whatever you chose...
Yucca-Man
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Kudos for actually looking up the Trafic Code for your locale. Too bad it took until Post #62 for someone to do it...as was stated several times, all this "I heard" and "a friend of mine was told" BS is just crap. Actually posting a link to the statute indicates you've taken the time to look for the answer yourself instead of hoping the random cop you've spoken to knows the law.erp467 said:
When I have any question about traffic-related offenses and need an explanation of the Colorado Revised Statute, I ask one of my Traffic Deputies, especially the ones who are former State Troopers (they have a history of inspecting vehicles). The Traffic folks are far more well-versed on Title 42 (Vehicles and Traffic) than the Patrol guys. The Patrol guys are more well-versed in other aspects of the statutes though...
Yeah, but you're forgetting the part about putting those youngsters in approved car seats!erp467 said:and this is how i bent the law. there are doors so most cops don't want to seem to hassle wth it
x eleventy-brazilian.Robert 771 said:
cherokee chuck said:
Did you know that even if the state Statute allows it, local (County, parish, city or township) ordinances may prohibit something? Yeah...that's why driving through Denver is a pain in the butt for some folks.
Did you know that there is a Colorado Revised Statute prohibiting nearly any modification of your vehicle suspension from stock? yup, it's under C.R.S. 42-4-233:
(1) No person shall operate a motor vehicle of a type required to be registered under the laws of this state upon a public highway with either the rear or front suspension system altered or changed from the manufacturer's original design except in accordance with specifications permitting such alteration established by the department. Nothing contained in this section shall prevent the installation of manufactured heavy duty equipment to include shock absorbers and overload springs, nor shall anything contained in this section prevent a person from operating a motor vehicle on a public highway with normal wear of the suspension system if normal wear shall not affect the control of the vehicle.
...but if there's no penalty associated, it's not illegal. The section above actually did have an associated penalty (Class 2 Misdemeanor Traffic Offense) so at one time it was illegal in the State of Colorado to lift, lower, or modify your suspension. It's still on the books, with a disclaimer Source: L. 94: Entire title amended with relocations, p. 2267, § 1, effective January 1, 1995. because it was deemed unconstitutional: This section's flat prohibition against any motor vehicle suspension system alteration, except the installation of heavy duty shock absorbers or springs, is unconstitutionally overbroad. People v. Von Tersch, 180 Colo. 295, 505 P.2d 5 (1973) (decided prior to 1975 amendment).
My point? Learn the friggin' laws of the state YOU live in. Learn them, and don't just assume that what you heard from your buddy or the random cop on the street is correct.
Jim www.yuccaman.com
erp467
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Yucca-Man said:Yeah, but you're forgetting the part about putting those youngsters in approved car seats!
don't worry there n the back. as far as it being illegal not there is not penelty for it but there is for unsafe equpment and if they dont lke it and there having a bad day i would bet they wll try to find something else to get you on
slipslap
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My thoughts as well. There are only a few DOT approved bead locks out there. And running tires or rims or lights on your vehicle that are not DOT approved is ILLEGAL. If you don't think running non DOT approved things like wheels is illegal, roll up to a cop with some true drag slicks, not street legal drag radials, and see what happens. Beadlocks that aren't DOT approved are illegal on the street and unsafe to say the least.cherokee chuck said:
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Most "dangerous illegal beadlocks" are DIY beadlock kits put onto DOT approved wheels. So it still has the DOT stamp.slipslap said:
Darky
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Non-DOT approved means its not approved for use on the street but beadlocks are only dangerous if there cheap cobbled together things done by someone who doesn't know what he's doing, or not maintained - just like anything we do to our XJs.
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The argument that wrangler doors are removable is assanign. They are easier to remove but still bolt on. 4 bolts or 40 all doors are removable.
