Which political party are you?

[5-90]

You forgot NPA - No Party Affiliation.

Classify me as a cross between "Conservative Libertarian" and "Anarchist" - using the classic definition for "Anarchist."

"Anarchy" is defined as "an absence of externally-imposed government or social order" - in other words, ruling by "social contract" rather than by laws and regulations.

The "social contract" is the body of unwritten rules governing human behaviour and interaction. No-one tells you how to do it, you learn it as you go. The problem with the idea of anarchy is simple - the "social contract" has been decaying for the last forty years, most sharply in the last ten. This false sense of entitlement we're raising children with is going to do more damage to us than an overt war - I can damn near guarantee it.

If we DO have to have a government, it should be "small and inoffensive" internally - the minimum required to maintain social order and to provide for the common defense. Welfare isn't a part of my government, that's just socialism ("From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.") I'm seeing an awful lot of that from BOTH parties!

FDR was probably the beginning of the end. While he wasn't (I think) responsible for the Great Depression, he put a programme in place that hastened "social welfare" for years to come - Social Security.

The Social Security programme was NOT meant to last more than five years, which is why the system is "broken" now. It just wasn't designed to last this long. However, in providing "welfare" to retirees, everyone else started clamouring "Me too!" - and look where it's gotten us.

Complete revokation of welfare may not be the answer - as usual, the answer is going to be somewhere in the middle. However, we should be getting something BACK for all the public dollars spent on welfare - bringing back something like FDR's WPA (one programme he came up with that I DO agree with!) would be helpful. If you don't have any other skills, and you're on the dole, you can still push a shovel - or, go to school and LEARN a skill or three.

As far as the lines being blurred between parties - so true. "Republicrat" or "Demican" are better names for them than "Republican" or "Democrat" anymore, y'ask me. It's just a matter of which side is more liberal/socialist than the other (but both are, to a certain degree.) OTOH, I can't bring myself to vote for a Democrat candidate for anything anymore - simply because I don't agree at all with their EXTENT.

"Spirit of '76 - Re-elect Nobody!"

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[jcnoble]

This is getting good now. Why not forget the whole party thing and just say what we would like versus what we actually need. I dont like big government but we need a military to protect our interests. We are capatalists and need to sell our junk! I dont like welfare and stuff like that , I think we should all work, most everyone can do something. There are exceptions. This whole country has gotten itself wrapped around the axle. We need clarity and a purpose I think. etc.... anyone??

 

[5-90]

This is getting good now. Why not forget the whole party thing and just say what we would like versus what we actually need. I dont like big government but we need a military to protect our interests. We are capatalists and need to sell our junk! I dont like welfare and stuff like that , I think we should all work, most everyone can do something. There are exceptions. This whole country has gotten itself wrapped around the axle. We need clarity and a purpose I think. etc.... anyone??

I've been saying all that - and more! - for years. Odd to find someone in Southern California who thinks much the same way...

I've got a monograph to write on the subject, but it hasn't fully crystallised yet...

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[rock rash]

I chose other.

I have very libral views on most things...but also have some fairly conservative views and do not like to be associated with the stereotypes of either party

 

[TRNDRVR]

Suck my nut.
The right one, not the left, you left wing, limp wristed, crybaby, ACLU lovin, America bashin, lazy-ass welfare recipient supportin, flag burnin, green fuel sniffin, homo lovin, God hatin, Clinton ball suckin, tree huggin, Clinton vagy lickin, pachouli stinkin, crime OKin, terrorist understandin, Susan Sarandon cheerin, enviro-terrorist agreein, Michael Moore lie acceptin, hybrid drivin, mother earth tit suckin, Al Gore ass kissin, commie pinko bitch. :moon:

Well that worked well.

PS Didn't notice the smiley or understand my intention did you? Thanks for the entertainment. Carry on. That is all.

<edit> Oooops, I didn't notice your smiley either. My bad!

 

[BRIANHO13]

Suck my nut.
The right one, not the left, you left wing, limp wristed, crybaby, ACLU lovin, America bashin, lazy-ass welfare recipient supportin, flag burnin, green fuel sniffin, homo lovin, God hatin, Clinton ball suckin, tree huggin, Clinton vagy lickin, pachouli stinkin, crime OKin, terrorist understandin, Susan Sarandon cheerin, enviro-terrorist agreein, Michael Moore lie acceptin, hybrid drivin, mother earth tit suckin, Al Gore ass kissin, commie pinko bitch. :moon:

You left out union loving. Well I guess "welfare recipient" covers that.

 

[Tom in KY]

Registered Republican, but not impressed with either party at the moment.

 

[SanDiegoXJ]

You forgot NPA - No Party Affiliation.

Classify me as a cross between "Conservative Libertarian" and "Anarchist" - using the classic definition for "Anarchist."

"Anarchy" is defined as "an absence of externally-imposed government or social order" - in other words, ruling by "social contract" rather than by laws and regulations.

The "social contract" is the body of unwritten rules governing human behaviour and interaction. No-one tells you how to do it, you learn it as you go. The problem with the idea of anarchy is simple - the "social contract" has been decaying for the last forty years, most sharply in the last ten. This false sense of entitlement we're raising children with is going to do more damage to us than an overt war - I can damn near guarantee it.

If we DO have to have a government, it should be "small and inoffensive" internally - the minimum required to maintain social order and to provide for the common defense. Welfare isn't a part of my government, that's just socialism ("From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.") I'm seeing an awful lot of that from BOTH parties!

FDR was probably the beginning of the end. While he wasn't (I think) responsible for the Great Depression, he put a programme in place that hastened "social welfare" for years to come - Social Security.

The Social Security programme was NOT meant to last more than five years, which is why the system is "broken" now. It just wasn't designed to last this long. However, in providing "welfare" to retirees, everyone else started clamouring "Me too!" - and look where it's gotten us.

Complete revokation of welfare may not be the answer - as usual, the answer is going to be somewhere in the middle. However, we should be getting something BACK for all the public dollars spent on welfare - bringing back something like FDR's WPA (one programme he came up with that I DO agree with!) would be helpful. If you don't have any other skills, and you're on the dole, you can still push a shovel - or, go to school and LEARN a skill or three.

As far as the lines being blurred between parties - so true. "Republicrat" or "Demican" are better names for them than "Republican" or "Democrat" anymore, y'ask me. It's just a matter of which side is more liberal/socialist than the other (but both are, to a certain degree.) OTOH, I can't bring myself to vote for a Democrat candidate for anything anymore - simply because I don't agree at all with their EXTENT.

"Spirit of '76 - Re-elect Nobody!"

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Bravo!! I like the way you think =)

 

[Ramsey]

you need to add that child lover party from whereever it was on there.

 

[\\'anderer]

Suck my nut.
The right one, not the left, you left wing, limp wristed, crybaby, ACLU lovin, America bashin, lazy-ass welfare recipient supportin, flag burnin, green fuel sniffin, homo lovin, God hatin, Clinton ball suckin, tree huggin, Clinton vagy lickin, pachouli stinkin, crime OKin, terrorist understandin, Susan Sarandon cheerin, enviro-terrorist agreein, Michael Moore lie acceptin, hybrid drivin, mother earth tit suckin, Al Gore ass kissin, commie pinko bitch. :moon:

DITTO !

I'm a Republican, but I still feel that our government as a whole, is out of control. Income tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, local tax, 1/2 of my income goes to the government, but I still pay entrance fees to national parks ! (tax on top of taxes?).

Then they take my money (social security too) and spend it for me on things most Americans will never benefit from. What buisness does the government have in stem cell research at all, why do they take money from me (social security) and give it back to me at at a rate much less than if I put it in the bank in a regular savings account.
Why can't I walk down the street with a gun, or say Jesus in school. Those are Constitutional rights but I would be punished for both acts.

Politics Must not be a career BUT a service to the country. All polititions must have term limits, so they must return to the REAL world with the rest of us.

Don't even get me started on liberal activist judges:gonnablow

 

[TRNDRVR]

Then they take my money (social security too)

I'm glad I don't pay into Social Security.

 

[5-90]

I'm glad I don't pay into Social Security.

Yeah - doesn't Railroad Retirement give a greater return on investment? Hod's that plan get started, anyhow? I've been wondering...

That, and howcumzit you don't get SS like the rest of us "great unwashed" (apparently, the Congresscritters don't get to collect either. I don't much care for SS, but I care even less for the plan that THEY get - aren't most of them independently wealthy anyhow? They can afford to spend $10M to get a job that pays $150K per annum...)

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[flexjay87]

well in simple terms, democrats have been hi-jacked by liberals. many average dem. voters are ignorant of this fact and keep voting like sheep to slaughter. basically it's like this, democrats think that government is the answer to all of our problems, and the key is to spend as much money as can be bled from taxpayers. repubs., in general believe government should be as small as possible and still be able to keep our country safe, while keeping entitlements at a minimum. neither party is perfect, but then again humans are still congressmen, so at least some corruption and waste are expected. i'm a registered republican.

 

[BOB]

REPUBLICAN

How can anyone vote for Hillary Rotten Clinton?
She wants to run the White House?
sh*t, she can't even keep an eye on ol' Billy.

...BOB

 

[boise49ers]

Republican....
Do I think Bush gets everything right? NO! Do I think he is doing a darn good job with all that is going on? YES! Do I think that Liberal media is damaging U.S. Politics? Deffinately
Do I think that Liberal media are in bed with Liberal government? and the majority of the democrats? OH YEAH!

Thats Rich ! Like Good Ole Fox News eh ? Hah hahah hahah ! Sounds like a Clip from the Rush Limbaugh show to me. The man that said to lock up all the druggies and get rid of entitlement programs until his fat ass was caught being one and needed one of those entitlement programs. I'm far from Liberal, but I have to say John Stewart is the man. Bush is probably the Best thing that has ever happen to America though. Corportate America, not the one I live in.
This thread should get alot of attention. I do know the majority of off-roaders are Republican because of Land usage issues. So Democrats will get beat down in this poll. Put the same poll up for say Bicycling, chances are pretty good Rep. will get beat down.:sunshine:

 

[boise49ers]

Registered Republican, but not impressed with either party at the moment.

Totally Agree !

 

[IcedXJ]

Other

What happpend to the great southern democrats? an in-between group. One that says that you are your own responsibility, One that takes no chit from anyone threatening its citizens liberties. One that realizes the stupidity of being for abortion and against death penalty, or for the death penalty and against abortion. One that realizes that getting high is not as incapacitating as getting drunk. One that realizes that we are overtaxed, and mismanaged to the brink of our own distruction.

ONE THAT IS WILLING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL OF THE ABOVE!:exclamati

Utill that guy comes along and has a chance to win, I cannot in good conscience ever vote for a guy who changes his mind with every new poll, and has no specific plan.

Funny I just read this and I agree fully.. Good show

 

[Starscream]

Put the same poll up for say Bicycling, chances are pretty good Rep. will get beat down.:sunshine:

Who the hell bicycles anyway? :confused1

 

[the1jzahn]

Put the same poll up for say Bicycling, chances are pretty good Rep. will get beat down.:sunshine:

Very true. I used to visit 'bike forums' and a few weeks ago I noticed that it seemed like most of the cyclists were liberal wack jobs but those on this forum seemed a little more to the right in general. Many of the cyclicst think that gas vehicles and driving off road is a horrible sin to humanity. They need to take a ten foot pole and shove it right up their a$$. This is why I don't go there anymore, even though I am an avid biker.

Back to the point of the thread. I agree that both parties can annoy me but I agree pretty much with mostly what all the republicans stand for. We should have guns and enforce the laws we have, no new ones. SS is worthless seeing that I can invest it myself and make 10 fold of what the gov. will give back. School vouchers=good. Abortion and death penalty are two totally different situations, so I think abortion is bad, and the :hang:is fine if that person is 100% the killer and shows no remorse. I could go on for days...

I need some:cheers:

 

[boise49ers]

Who the hell bicycles anyway? :confused1

Oh Man come to Boise sometime. It is huge here and I live on their main drag. I live along the foothills going into the National Forest and my job is right down the same street. 1.25 mile commute. Anyway those fawktards ride 3 a breast and don't stop for stop signs and don't have too. I used to throw a fit until I contacted Traffic Control on the BPD. They had legislation passed saying they could do both. If you toot your horn to let them know you are approaching there is a good chance they will flip you off. They boil my blood. After a few run ins and finding out I had heart diease I had to calm down. Plus my grand daughter is with me quite a bit so I think about that too. I wish the things were never created at this point. Sorry for getting off track, but this thread has did a lot of that