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Giving Wal-Mart the Finger...

Yucca-Man

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I applaud the balls this guy had to tell Wal-Mart 'no' especially after they tried to pressure him to make low-quality cheap mowers like many of their suppliers have. Too often, quality suffers as manufacturers bow to the Wal-Mart pressure to sell at ever-lower prices - Snapper CEO Jim Wier was faced with that decision and opted to pull his mowers out of Wal-Mart instead.


fastcompany.com said:
Abridged from The Wal-Mart Effect
By Senior Staff Writer, Charles Fishman

What struck Jim Wier first, as he entered the Wal-Mart vice president's office, was the seating area for visitors. "It was just some lawn chairs that some other peddler had left behind as samples." The vice president's office was furnished with a folding lawn chair and a chaise lounge.

And so Wier, the CEO of lawn-equipment maker Simplicity, dressed in a suit, took a seat on the chaise lounge. "I sat forward, of course, with my legs off to the side. If you've ever sat in a lawn chair, well, they are lower than regular chairs. And I was on the chaise. It was a bit intimidating. It was uncomfortable, and it was going to be an uncomfortable meeting."

It was a Wal-Mart moment that couldn't be scripted, or perhaps even imagined. A vice president responsible for billions of dollars' worth of business in the largest company in history has his visitors sit in mismatched, cast-off lawn chairs that Wal-Mart quite likely never had to pay for.

The vice president had a bigger surprise for Wier, though. Wal-Mart not only wanted to keep selling his lawn mowers, it wanted to sell lots more of them. Wal-Mart wanted to sell mowers nose-to-nose against Home Depot and Lowe's.

"Usually," says Wier, "I don't perspire easily." But perched on the edge of his chaise, "I felt my arms getting drippy."

Wier took a breath and said, "Let me tell you why it doesn't work."

Tens of thousands of executives make the pilgrimage to northwest Arkansas every year to woo Wal-Mart, marshaling whatever arguments, data, samples, and pure persuasive power they have in the hope of an order for their products, or an increase in their current order. Almost no matter what you're selling, the gravitational force of Wal-Mart's 3,811 U.S. "doorways" is irresistible. Very few people fly into Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport thinking about telling Wal-Mart no, or no more.

The Snapper Difference
In 2002, Jim Wier's company, Simplicity, was buying Snapper, a complementary company with a 50-year heritage of making high-quality residential and commercial lawn equipment. Wier had studied his new acquisition enough to conclude that continuing to sell Snapper mowers through Wal-Mart stores was, as he put it, "incompatible with our strategy. And I felt I owed them a visit to tell them why we weren't going to continue to sell to them."

Selling Snapper lawn mowers at Wal-Mart wasn't just incompatible with Snapper's future -- Wier thought it was hazardous to Snapper's health. Snapper is known in the outdoor-equipment business not for huge volume but for quality, reliability, durability. A well-maintained Snapper lawn mower will last decades; many customers buy the mowers as adults because their fathers used them when they were kids. But Snapper lawn mowers are not cheap, any more than a Viking range is cheap. The value isn't in the price, it's in the performance and the longevity.

You can buy a lawn mower at Wal-Mart for $99.96, and depending on the size and location of the store, there are slightly better models for every additional $20 bill you're willing to put down -- priced at $122, $138, $154, $163 and $188. That's six models of lawn mowers below $200. Mind you, in some Wal-Marts you literally cannot see what you are buying; there are no display models, just lawn mowers in huge cardboard boxes.

The least expensive Snapper lawn mower -- a 19-inch push mower with a 5.5-horsepower engine -- sells for $349.99 at full list price. Even finding it discounted to $299, you can buy two or three lawn mowers at Wal-Mart for the cost of a single Snapper.

If you know nothing about maintaining a mower, Wal-Mart has helped make that ignorance irrelevant: At even $138, the lawn mowers at Wal-Mart are cheap enough to be disposable. Use one for a season, and if you can't start it the next spring (Wal-Mart won't help you out with that), put it at the curb and buy another one. That kind of pricing changes not just the economics at the low end of the lawn-mower market, it changes expectations of customers throughout the market. Why would you buy a walk-behind mower from Snapper that costs $519? What could it possibly have to justify spending $300 or $400 more?

That's the question that motivated Jim Wier to stop doing business with Wal-Mart. Wier is too judicious to describe it this way, but he looked into a future of supplying lawn mowers and snowblowers to Wal-Mart and saw a whirlpool of lower prices, collapsing profitability, offshore manufacturing and the gradual but irresistible corrosion of the very qualities for which Snapper was known. Jim Wier looked into the future and saw a death spiral.

Wier had two things going for him: First, he had another way to get his lawn mowers to customers -- a well-established network of independent lawn-equipment dealers that accounted for 80 percent of Snapper's sales. And Wier had the courage, the foresight, to take an unblinking view of where his Wal-Mart business was heading -- not in year three, or year four, but year 10.

Wier traveled to Bentonville with a firm grasp of the values of Snapper, the dynamics of the lawnmower business, the needs of the dealers, the needs of the Snapper customer, and the needs of the Wal-Mart customer. He was not dazzled by the tens of millions of dollars' worth of lawn mowers Wal-Mart was already selling for Snapper; he was not deluded about his ability to beat Wal-Mart at its own game, to somehow resist the price pressure. He was not imagining that he could take the sales now and figure out the profits later.

Jim Wier believed that Snapper's health -- indeed, its very long-term survival -- required that it not do business with Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart's Pitch
The meeting started with the vice president of the category saying how it was clear that Lowe's was going to build their outdoor power-equipment business with the Cub Cadet brand, and how Home Depot was going to build theirs with John Deere," says Wier. "Wal-Mart wanted to build their outdoor power-equipment business around the Snapper brand. Were we prepared to go large?"

Talk about coming to the table with different agendas. Wier was in Bentonville to pull his mowers from Wal-Mart's stores. The vice president was offering a greater temptation: Let's join hands and go head-to-head against the home-improvement superstores.

Which is when Wier said no.

Rejecting Wal-Mart
"As I look at the three years Snapper has been with you," he told the vice president, "every year the price has come down. Every year the content of the product has gone up. We're at a position where, first, it's still priced where it doesn't meet the needs of your clientele. For Wal-Mart, it's still too high-priced. I think you'd agree with that.

"Now, at the price I'm selling to you today, I'm not making any money on it. And if we do what you want next year, I'll lose money. I could do that and not go out of business. But we have this independent-dealer channel. And 80% of our business is over here with them. And I can't put them at a competitive disadvantage. If I do that, I lose everything. So this just isn't a compatible fit."

The Wal-Mart vice president responded with strategy and argument. Snapper is the sort of high-quality nameplate, like Levi Strauss, that Wal-Mart hopes can ultimately make it more Target-like. He suggested that Snapper find a lower-cost contract manufacturer. He suggested producing a separate, lesser-quality line with the Snapper nameplate just for Wal-Mart. Just like Levi did.

"My response was, we would take a look at that," says Wier. "The reason I gave that response was, it was a legitimate question. In my own mind, I knew where I'd go with that"--no thanks--"but at that kind of meeting you at least have to be willing to say, I'll investigate." And that was it. "The tone at the end was, We're not going forward as a supplier."

No lightning bolt struck. Except that Snapper instantly gave up almost 20% of its business. "But when we told the dealers that they would no longer find Snapper in Wal-Mart, they were very pleased with that decision. And I think we got most of that business back by winning the hearts of the dealers."

The Aftermath
One serious hazard to Wier's strategy is that independent lawn-equipment dealers face all the same pressures that have killed, for instance, many independent hardware stores and toy stores. "That is a legitimate question and a legitimate concern," says Wier. "I think we have a part in that outcome. Can Snapper, as a major supplier, continue to supply [the independents] with great product, and a product different than you can buy at Wal-Mart?"

Wier says, "I'm probably pro-Wal-Mart. I'm certainly not anti-Wal-Mart. I believe Wal-Mart has done a great service to the country in many ways. They offer reasonably good product at very good prices, and they've streamlined the entire distribution system. And it may be that along the way, they've driven some people out of business who shouldn't have been driven out of business." Wier wasn't going to let that happen to Snapper.

Wier had determined to lead Snapper to focus on quality, and through quality, on cachet. Not every car is a Honda Accord or a Toyota Camry; there is more than enough business to support Audi and BMW and Lexus. And so it is with lawn mowers, Wier hoped. Still, perhaps the most remarkable thing is that the Wal-Mart effect is so pervasive that it sets the metabolism even of companies that purposefully do no business with Wal-Mart.

And the power and allure of Wal-Mart is such that even Jim Wier, the man who said no to Wal-Mart, a man who knows all the reasons why that was the right decision, has slivers of doubt.

"I could go to my grave, and my tombstone could say, 'Here lies the dumbest CEO ever to live. He chose not to sell to Wal-Mart.' "

Snapper was successfully integrated into Simplicity, which in 2004 was itself bought by Briggs & Stratton, the company that makes many of the engines in Snapper and Simplicity mowers. Simplicity and Snapper operate as independent divisions, and Wier remained CEO of both until last summer, when he resigned to join the private equity firm Kohlberg & Co. In McDonough, business is strong.
Not in my book - kudos for flipping the bird at Wal-Mart. Capitalism is good, and I applaud companies that succeed, but when they force others out of business through strongarm tactics reminiscent of the mob then we have to revisit whether they are a benefit or detriment to our society. I vote detriment...
 
But, I buy a new Murray from walmart for $99 every 3 years (about as long as they last). Thats $33 a year to cut my grass, pretty good bargain for me, since Im piss poor anyway.
 
MyJeepXJ said:
But, I buy a new Murray from walmart for $99 every 3 years (about as long as they last). Thats $33 a year to cut my grass, pretty good bargain for me, since Im piss poor anyway.

$33/yr? You mow in the dead of Winter, too? Put together all the time you're actually USING the mower and I think you'll be surprised how much you're actually pissing away.
 
as opposed to investing $400-$500 on a product that's more likely to last you 20+ years with decent maintenance?


Reminds me of disposable tools vs Snap-On/MAC/Craftsman Pro grade...
 
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I'd like to see more companies do the same. There are still people that want to buy quality no matter if it cost more. I'm sick of the China garbage being dumped on us.
 
Valssic pickels is another one that got the tiger by the tail and can't let go or is that they let walmart get them by the short and curlies and dictate price...
Walmart also screwed the gun and ammo manufacturers, ordered huge amounts of firearms and ammo, then did not pay for it, sat on it and then told remington, stevens, etc how much they were going to pay on the dollar...I understand now it's 'cash on the barrelhead' for anyone doing business with walmart. Trick is to not let walmart become your single source of business, thats suicide..
 
good for them. If my $25 electric garage sale mower ever bites the dust, I will definately be looking at snapper.

I concur with the idea that walmart items are cheap disposable crap. I would rather pay double for something that will last 4X as long.

same thing with our favorite crack store, harbor freight.

SeanP
 
I agree with buying quality, it's going to last alot longer than the cheap stuff you buy at wal-mart.

one thing though, in some areas of the country thieves will steal anything, including your lawnmower.

i'd rather them steal a cheapass $99 mower that i bought at walmart than them steal a snapper that i had to really save up for.
 
ECKSJAY said:

Frontline on PBS had an excellent exploration of the Walmart economic model and its economic and cultural impact. Part of this study icluded a case study of Wal-Mart making and breaking Rubbermaid. I believe you can watch it online. Go to pbs.org
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I hate to tell you this, but a Snapper mower will last 15+ years without doing anything to it but adding gas and sometimes putting it out of the rain. I know because mine still works every year.
 
My dad gave me a Murray that lasted about 8 years. It probably would have gone many more, but I hit a stump and bent the shaft, pounded on it with a big hammer, then it went two or three more seasons. Replaced it with a second hand reel mower and still feel guilty about throwing the old one away.

Seriously though, Sears used to have a $125 model that the sales people said were good for one year, then you throw it away. I'm not sure what my next mower will be, because the person who owns it now hasn't thrown it away yet!
 
Wal-Mart's been fighting against unions too. Sure, their prices are low, but that's only because they don't pay their employees fair wages. I don't have a link handy, but weren't they caught employing illegal aliens a few weeks ago?

(By the way, I have a 1972 Gravely Model L that mows my lawn and plows my driveway. It works like a champ year-round, and the only thing really changed on it has been the addition of a fuel filter and new petcock).
 
About a year ago there was a Frontline investigation titled: Is Wal-Mart Good for America, that chronicled a variety of issues, including how the last US-based TV manufacturer sued Cheapo-Depot and won for unfair trade practices.

Basically, Wal-Mart was found guilty of trying to squash this rather small company by dumping dirt cheap, import TVs here in the states.

The interviews provided a fascinating look into how Wal-Mart squeezes its suppliers and plays one against the other. It also provided insight into how Wal-Mart isn't really the lowest price provider on many products, but typically provides the lowest price on the entry level product of various categories.
 
I f'ing HATE Wal-Mart. I do my best to avoid it at all costs.

I must admit, it is always entertaining in there. Either way ghetto or way trailer park.
 
I think that old Sam Walton is spinning in his grave. He came from a small town and did all his early business there. He was also big in buying American made stuff. They use to brag about how many jobs in America they contributed to. You sure don't see those banners anymore. Whose gonna brag about how many jobs are made in China?!
Also, Murray mowers went out of business in September. At their peak they had 4000 workers. Their cheap push mowers have all been made in China for a long time. Same thing with their bikes. They can't make a bike or a mower for $100 and still make a profit. The shutdown has really hurt our town as they were the biggest employer by far.
 
ECKSJAY said:
$33/yr? You mow in the dead of Winter, too? Put together all the time you're actually USING the mower and I think you'll be surprised how much you're actually pissing away.
Dont be such an ass, u know I dont mow in the winter. If I spent $300 on a mower and it lasted 3 years, then its a $100 a year to mow. Still do the math.
 
This position that Snapper is taking is exactly how small businesses can and do prosper in the shadow of a MegaloMart - offer something different/better. It's no front page news that Wallyworld sells crappy $99 mowers or $49 bicycles. That's fine and there is obviously a market for it or they wouldn't be the #1 retailer on the planet.
WalMart does not and can not sell high end products or cater to specialty consumers with their particular business model. That is where the competition can beat them. Unfortunately for Snapper, my $199 Craftsman lawn mower cuts grass exactly the same theirs does for $495. That does make them a tough sell in the middle class joe six-pack pushmower market where a large percentage of mowers are sold.
 
XgeekstarX said:
rubbermaid went out of business a while back because of walmart.


Actually, they aren't out of business. They belong to Newell, and recently moved their HQ to the Atlanta area.

Blame Walmart for the things they actually did.
 
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