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So now it comes down to McCain, Obama & Paul. . .

Who are you voting for?

  • Obama (Clinton lite)

    Votes: 30 20.1%
  • McCain (Bush lite)

    Votes: 81 54.4%
  • Paul (and the new Revolution)

    Votes: 20 13.4%
  • some other nut job. . . .

    Votes: 18 12.1%

  • Total voters
    149
ehall said:
Clinton would have done more if he thought it was politically feasible.

From the collective memory hole... http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/18/town.meeting.folo/


But as we now know, this was all BUSH LIES!!11one ... damn that Karl Rove and his time machine


:rolleyes:

Talk about strawmen. . . Looky here everyone, Clinton would have done this and that. Clinton did this. . . blah blah blah. . . .

You reminded me of a little hyperactive chihuahua, always yipping, and nipping at peoples feat but never anything of substance.
 
ehall said:
Clinton would have done more if he thought it was politically feasible.

From the collective memory hole... http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/18/town.meeting.folo/


Plain truth--Bush did what Clinton wanted to do but couldn't. But as we now know thanks to the voices of superior reason among us *cough* this was all BUSH LIES!!11one ... damn that Karl Rove and his time machine

Thats pretty weak. If they made their decision off of a bunch of Buckeyes complaining....LOL

That last part I must be missing out on some inside joke....:doh:
 
SBrad001 said:
You do realize that Congress has passed billed with huge pay increases attached to them.

What about his foreign policy stand? You think we should be the world's self appointed police force while our children aren't getting the education they need, and our jobs are being shipped overseas?

Congress gets a huge pay raise every year, automatically....

Like I said, I agree with some of his ideas...but at this point, we're in deep militarily with parts of the world due to past misuse of the military by a certain cigar loving former President....

Paul just tries to pass himself off as "the only good politician"..."I'm a good guy, you can trust me, I'm not like the other 500+ members of Congress".
 
Ron Paul turns down his congressional pay raise every single year.
 
NickThePyro said:
Yeah, it sucks there will be a jack ass in office(pun intended) and it sickens me. We pull out the war we are royaly fucked up the ass. Sorry for the profanity but its the truth!
Its possible to express an opinion without cussing...
 
buschwhaked said:
The key here is "while you are in the service they cover it 100%." Now, things in the AF are different than the Army because, well frankly, you guys are spoiled. ;) I can tell you personally it's extremely difficult to go to college if you are in a combat unit in the Army. You spend 2/3rds of your time in Iraq, and the rest in the field or scraping for family time (if you have one, I'm not talking about parents). In the Army they have recently CUT the amount of college needed to get promoted. Whereas if you had a bachelors degree you were a shoe in for promotion, now you and the guy with only 50 hours are on the same boat. I thought about trying it while we were deployed, but the day I was going to sign up for classes we went into blackout (all outside communications shut down, usually lasting 24-56 hours), were back up for a day, and then back down again. It was like that the entire deployment.

Now, if I were only gone 6 months at a time and didn't live on a spec of sand for a base in the middle of Baghdad, sure, it wouldn't be a problem.

This new GI bill is a really exciting oppurtunity for me, if it passes. I'm leaving the military in 6 months and in looking at the current GI bill it will not cover my education. But in the end, I'm not totally dependant on it to get my education and I want it badly enough, I'll figure something.

McCain is not getting my vote for this reason and a myriad of other things. He may work great for the Air Force, but his future policies and Bush's current policies are brutalizing the Army.
While I was in the Marine Corps it was 100% tuition assistance while in as well. I'm pretty sure the policy is the same all around. You can't blame Bush for the crappy internet connection out there. I know when I was in Kandahar, our connection (leached off the Army's) ran pretty damn good the vast majority of the time we were there. It sound like your difficulties are more related to MOS than education policy. You have to remember, when joining the military, you're signing up to defend the country's interests and sometimes (especially in a combat MOS) it doesn't work for college.

:)
 
TRNDRVR said:
Remember, it was the republicans who put the military in harms way in the first place. Or did you forget?
Remember, it's those of us who have served or are currently serving who volunteered to be placed in harm's way. We have an all volunteer military. Or did you forget?
 
BlackSport96 said:
. . . You have to remember, when joining the military, you're signing up to defend the country's interests and sometimes (especially in a combat MOS) it doesn't work for college.

:)

Couldn't agree with you more!

I just want our veterans to be taken care of after they decide it's time to leave and pass the torch along. I think it's the least we can do for those that have put their lives on the line for this country regardless of who sent them.
 
SBrad001 said:
Couldn't agree with you more!

I just want our veterans to be taken care of after they decide it's time to leave and pass the torch along. I think it's the least we can do for those that have put their lives on the line for this country regardless of who sent them.
I'm on the same track here as you, I can say though, that it's been difficult for me to get any college done since getting out as I've been working by butt off to make money for my family and also still be able to spend time with them. Hopefully things'll be slowing down here soon.
 
BlackSport96 said:
Remember, it's those of us who have served or are currently serving who volunteered to be placed in harm's way. We have an all volunteer military. Or did you forget?

I will never forget that. That's why I think we should be sure that we as a nation have set the right course of action before a single service member's life is lost. Our all volunteer military has entrusted us with their lives to not squander those lives needlessly. That's a pretty heavy responsibility from my point of view.
 
Yeah, i didn't really want to say it, but the reason we would 'lose' internet connectivity is not because of MOS or anything. We go into blackout because of a KIA, MASCAS situation, or anything else that we don't want getting out immediatly.

And one of the reasons I joined was I didn't know what I wanted to do in college after two years. So instead of wasting my/my parents money dicking around in school, I figured that I was physically fit, intelligent, and able to serve our country. So going to college was not really a priority for me while I was in. But I still see it as an issue for those who do want to go, and they are having problems.
 
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Obama.....NEVER.......Clinton........Yeah OK and Paul.........RIGHT.......The whole damn county has gone to crap and it is not JUST the politicians fault. WE THE PEOPLE is just old ink on old paper these days. The government has absolute power and they WRITE laws to keep it that way!! (REBOOT back to the original Constitution/Bill of Rights) A true Democratic society powered by the people would be in much better shape than we are now. Our nation WAS once an industrial giant producing damn near everything the rest of the world needed. Now we buy all our CHEAPER crap from overseas!!! Just look at all the junk you got lyin around your house ( made everywhere but here )!! Are we a world leader????? Look at the declining Dollar... We should produce our own stuff BETTER than the rest of the world!! Who is to blame......WE ARE.....we want a fat bank account without having to work for it and to top it off we buy the cheapest crap just because it IS cheap....( Industry has moved out of the country to give our cheap asses what we want) GREED......MONEY......GREED.....MONEY.....( THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL ) If we as a nation do not wake the hell up and fix the problems that are way out of control, the once mighty United States of America will go the way of the ONCE mighty Roman Empire!!! My worthless 2 cents :rtm: :conceited
 
SBrad001 said:
I will never forget that. That's why I think we should be sure that we as a nation have set the right course of action before a single service member's life is lost. Our all volunteer military has entrusted us with their lives to not squander those lives needlessly. That's a pretty heavy responsibility from my point of view.

X2 I am one of those Volunteers:patriot:
 
The love of money is the root of all evil...which still fits perfectly with your statements. :D
 
There's prolly 3 or 4 dozen better qualified candidates for President, who could turn our country around.......problem is, they aren't politicians.

President of the United States is a life-long commitment....unfortunately for some, life-ending. You don't go back to being Joe Citizen when you're done and you forever have a target on you by the press, the public and the psycho's.

None of them share my views on policy.......McCain comes the closest, but his Socialist lean on most stuff just leave me feeling indifferent.
Obama is a good actor at best......
Hillary is.....we'll, Hillary.
 
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I still believe that McCain is the lesser of the evils out there. Osama's gun policies are enough for me to not want him in office. As for Clinton she is to liberal for me and IMHO too power hungry. Paul will just take needed votes away from McCain IMHO. If Osama gets in there you beater hide your guns or be prepared to fight for them. He can better rule a country with out weapons then the armed citizens that are out there now. And yea that was a reference to him being a Socialist Dictator if given the opportunity. JMHO.
 
Ghost said:
If Osama gets in there you better hide your guns or be prepared to fight for them. He can better rule a country without weapons then the armed citizens that are out there now. JMHO.

X2.

his socialist ideals cause me great concern.
 
DaffyXJ said:
X2.

his socialist ideals cause me great concern.

X9001
 
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