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So now it comes down to McCain, Obama & Paul. . .

Who are you voting for?

  • Obama (Clinton lite)

    Votes: 30 20.1%
  • McCain (Bush lite)

    Votes: 81 54.4%
  • Paul (and the new Revolution)

    Votes: 20 13.4%
  • some other nut job. . . .

    Votes: 18 12.1%

  • Total voters
    149
The states already run a huge amount of stuff as a result of 10th amendment separation of powers

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

That is why the states are responsible for stuff like education, welfare, driver's licenses, etc., while the fed can only offer assistance funding and tie demands to that funding.

If the Dems get the white house and keep congress, the 10th amendment will go out the window in a power grab like we have not seen since FDR. They will seize control of healthcare industry, without an amendment granting them authority, that is something they have already promised.
 
JNickel101 said:
You REALLY think all of these things he claims to want to change would happen in 4 years?

It's easy to ridicule that which you do not understand, isn't it? ;) If you had any clue you'd know that he had stated HIMSELF that it would be the basis for change and it would take a long time to get going. You think Osamanig's 'hope and change' would happen in 4 years? Do you really think ANYONE'S agenda is going to happen 'overnight'? I don't, save for a bloody coup. ;)
 
SBrad001 said:
I think Hillary is counting on Obama getting whacked. . . .

With the number of slick willys people that died counting may be the wrong word.
 
SBrad001 said:
Well, I think that the vast majority of Americans(democrat or republican) are so brainwashed in to being okay with how much governmental control we live with today that anyone who points out how far we've strayed from the original intent of our founding fathers and the government that they set in place, that anyone point that out is automatically branded a looney.

It's really sad I think. But that also why we need a new Revolution.

I think Hillary is counting on Obama getting whacked. . . .

If Obama makes Hillary his VP, You can count on him getting whacked. The Clintons have a long trail of bodies behind them.
 
smcdonaldaz said:
If Obama makes Hillary his VP, You can count on him getting whacked. The Clintons have a long trail of bodies behind them.

CNN suggested last night that if Hillary became Barak's VP he would need to hire a food taster.
 
ehall said:
The states already run a huge amount of stuff as a result of 10th amendment separation of powers



That is why the states are responsible for stuff like education, welfare, driver's licenses, etc., while the fed can only offer assistance funding and tie demands to that funding.

If the Dems get the white house and keep congress, the 10th amendment will go out the window in a power grab like we have not seen since FDR. They will seize control of healthcare industry, without an amendment granting them authority, that is something they have already promised.

If only the 10th would be enforced! It was tossed a long time ago under the inter-state commerce clause. If there is the slightest hint of something being interstate, the feds take control. Bastages!
 
You guys that like Guilanni are farking insane. Seriously, the guy's worse than either of the Clintons and just as much of a socialist. AND how many wives have divorced his sorry ass for cheating on them? Not mention using NY city funds to pay for his last affair. For crying out loud, his own daughter won't support him. I think that says loads about his character.
 
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SBrad001 said:
You guys that like Guilanni are farking insane. Seriously, the guys is worst than either of the Clintons and just as much of a socialist. AND how many wives have divorced his sorry ass for cheating on them? Not mention using NY city funds to pay for his last affair. For crying out loud, his own daughter won't support him. I think that says loads about his character.


Def don't want the Guilanni as Pres, however if Arnold Schwarzenegger was running I'd vote for him! Can you imagine what the comedians would do for the 4 years he was president! Pres Bush was pretty damned funny "nuclear", Schwarzenegger would have to have subtitles during his speeches! lol
 
JeeperDan said:
I'd vote for Ron Paul, but he doesn't have a chance. I'm afraid he'll do to the Repulicans what Nader did for the Dems in '00.

Ron Paul = Ross Perot.

Before the Paulheads start flaming, I honestly don't think that enough people will write in Ron Paul or vote for him, mostly thanks to the national media's lack of face time with him. A vast majority of people in this country vote based on what they see on the idiot box, and Ron Paul hasn't gotten the coverage that he deserves.

I'm voting for McCain because he is the lesser of the 2 evils.
 
ECKSJAY said:
It's easy to ridicule that which you do not understand, isn't it? ;) If you had any clue you'd know that he had stated HIMSELF that it would be the basis for change and it would take a long time to get going. You think Osamanig's 'hope and change' would happen in 4 years? Do you really think ANYONE'S agenda is going to happen 'overnight'? I don't, save for a bloody coup. ;)

I understand plenty. What I dont listen to is some lunatic who's 4 years would be worth less than Jimmy Carter's. I could care less what Ron Paul has to say, because even if he served 20 years, he wouldnt get shit done.

This country is headed in a particular direction - save for a few detours here and there, its going to stay in that direction.

I just think its funny/ironic how many people support this guy and think he'd do any better than a "traditional" candidate. I think he's running b/c he likes seeing his name in the news. If he actually got elected, he'd shit his pants. Its almost as funny as the people who support Mr. "I say the word change, but my entire campaign is empty/retarded/ass-backwards".
 
SBrad001 said:
You guys that like Guilanni are farking insane. Seriously, the guy's worse than either of the Clintons and just as much of a socialist. AND how many wives have divorced his sorry ass for cheating on them? Not mention using NY city funds to pay for his last affair. For crying out loud, his own daughter won't support him. I think that says loads about his character.

At least his wives had the balls to divorce him for cheating on them( cough cough hillary) but then again i think she does have some. but she only kept bill to have a chance at the election
 
SBrad001 said:
You guys that like Guilanni are farking insane. Seriously, the guy's worse than either of the Clintons and just as much of a socialist. AND how many wives have divorced his sorry ass for cheating on them? Not mention using NY city funds to pay for his last affair. For crying out loud, his own daughter won't support him. I think that says loads about his character.

Agreed!
 
McCain lost my vote for sure when he said, ". . . worry that a more generous and expansive GI Bill would create an incentive for troops to get out of the military and go to college."

Bush's cut funding to the VA, McCain is bowing to pressure to limit future VA benefits to vets. Why in the hell do I want to elect someone that doesn't want our vets to make a good life for themselves after their enlistment? You can volunteer and sacrifice your life for this country but we won't show our appreciation of your service.. . .
 
I dunno...its hard to debate that - but no one would be BETTER for the troops than McCain. I shudder to think what Billary or Osama would do to the military....

I doubt anyone, including himself, knows what Ron Paul would do with the military....
 
JNickel101 said:
I dunno...its hard to debate that - but no one would be BETTER for the troops than McCain. I shudder to think what Billary or Osama would do to the military....

I doubt anyone, including himself, knows what Ron Paul would do with the military....

Are you sure about that?

Reagan gutted the VA, Clinton sunk billions of dollars into the VA building it back up. Bush gutted the VA and now it looks like McCain will continue on that same path of limiting VA benefits.

I'm really not crazy for Democrats but I can honestly say that they've done pretty well at taking care of vets.
 
If VA is the only basis you're going off of....well, ok....

Clinton cut the defense budget more than any president in US history. He also utilized more troops for more military operations than any president. Spread us very thin. I'd say launching 100 cruise missiles into Afghanistan @ $1 millon each, to take eyes off of the Lewinski scandal shows misuse of the military....dont forget the epic failure that was Somalia...
 
Also, I know my education benefits have gone UP since Bush took office. The military used to only pay 75% tuition assistance for active duty (under Clinton), now its 100%. They also have expanded the amount you can use per year, and the amount in my GI Bill has increased without me spending an extra cent. The AF now has expanded its efforts to educate the enlisted corps even more - you cant get promoted past E-7 anymore without at LEAST an Associates Degree, and its getting close to where they will require a Bachelors Degree.

You'd be surprised at the number of educational programs out there now for military members....

If Bush supposedly cut our education benefits, I sure havent seen it....its only gotten better since he took office, MUCH better than it ever was under Clinton.
 
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