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Hope and Change? Yeah, about that...

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'Overwhelming' expectations worry Biden
Carol E. Lee Carol E. Lee Mon Dec 22, 11:44 pm ET

Vice President-elect Joe Biden is worried about the “exceedingly high expectations” the world community has for Barack Obama’s presidency.

He believes he and Obama must follow through with action to show how they’re different than George W. Bush, Biden told CNN’s Larry King Monday.

“I have been contacted by so many world leaders. Their expectation for Barack’s presidency is overwhelming,” Biden said. “They are so hungry to have an American leader who they think has a policy that reflects our stated values as well as one they can talk to.”


At the same time, Biden expressed sympathy for Bush over the Baghdad shoe-throwing incident – a day after Biden and Vice President Dick Cheney traded shots on the Sunday shows. “I feel somewhat badly for him,” Biden said. “I think the incident in Iraq was – was unfortunate, that guy throwing the shoes. It was just uncalled for ... and I think that President Bush and, unlike Vice President Cheney, is, upon reflection beginning to acknowledge some of the serious, if not mistakes, misjudgments that he made.”

Still, Biden made clear Obama must make a clean break with Bush polices past, starting with shutting down the U.S. camp at Guantanamo Bay, Biden said. He said Greg Craig, Obama’s incoming White House counsel, and other members of Obama’s team are working on a strategy for closing Gitmo.

“We’re in the process of drawing up plans right now,” Biden said. “It’s going to be complicated to do it. It’s going to take more than a few months. But close it we must.”


But Biden also signaled that there might be some flexibility in another key Obama campaign promise that world leaders are watching closely: bringing home troops from Iraq. Biden said troops would be out “within the next two years” — longer than President-elect Barack Obama’s campaign promise of within 16 months but “in the same ballpark,” Biden said.

He said Obama would have troops out more quickly than the Bush administration’s agreement with the Iraqi government, which calls for troop withdrawal by 2011.



One of the reasons for troop withdrawal in Iraq is because more combat forces are needed in Afghanistan, Biden said.

In the Middle East, Biden said an Obama administration is “going to invest every bit of capital we have in trying to bring about peace.”

Biden also discussed a range of topics:

• He said Illinois Gov. Rod Blagoyevich seems pretty guilty and should go. “I know in our system you are innocent until proven guilty, but those tapes that were released by the special prosecutor, excuse me, by the U.S. attorney seem incredibly, incredibly incriminating,” Biden said. “It’s a decision for the people of Illinois to make the legislature of Illinois to make, but from where I sit he looks like a guy who is not capable of governing.”

• Biden said he and Sen. John McCain are “still close.” “John has been incredibly graceful,” Biden said. “He is my friend.”

• Obama is committed to equality for gays and lesbians, despite his selection of Rick Warren to give the inaugural convocation, Biden said.

• Of Gov. Sarah Palin, Biden said when he met her earlier this month at the meeting of the nation’s governors he found “she’s a really likeable person.” “I’m confident that she has a future,” he said.

• Biden said he was one of two running mates Obama had narrowed down to before the formal announcement in August, but declined to disclose who he thinks the other person was.

• Michelle Obama might beg to differ, but Biden said the vice presidential residence “is very unlike the White House in the sense that it’s a very livable residence.” He said he and his wife, Jill, are looking forward to using it “as a place to try to bring people together.”
 
"Joe Biden is worried about the “exceedingly high expectations” the world community has for Barack Obama’s presidency."


Yeah, so am I. Particularly with the "meeting those expectations" part.
 
Geez, I wonder how people got those expectations. Could it be....you told them to have them?
 
The term **gg** rigging is no longer acceptable, it will now be referred to as as a "Presidential solution".
 
It is called campaigning. Its like writing a resume. You stretch the truth and make yourself sound amazing to get the job. It happens every election season.
 
The term **gg** rigging is no longer acceptable, it will now be referred to as as a "Presidential solution".
:roflmao:
 
It is called campaigning. Its like writing a resume. You stretch the truth and make yourself sound amazing to get the job. It happens every election season.

Oh come on! While what you say is true it has never been like it was this year. And it isn't so much as what Obama said he would do as it was this overwhelming feeling people had that he was somehow the second coming of Christ or something.

I've said it before...I hope there is some serious hard feelings toward the president by about oh...I don't know say 56% of the voting populous?
 
Oh come on! While what you say is true it has never been like it was this year. And it isn't so much as what Obama said he would do as it was this overwhelming feeling people had that he was somehow the second coming of Christ or something.

I've said it before...I hope there is some serious hard feelings toward the president by about oh...I don't know say 56% of the voting populous?

Agreed...but only 56%?
It wasn't what he said, it was about the expectations people put on his presidency and then forced fed to the voters by the mass media. I believe there are going to be a lot of disappointed people in two years.
 
Check this out, a little long to read, but lots of good points.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6829


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Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor

David Icke
Infowars
December 26, 2008

I am writing this in the last days of 2008 as I watch with dismay as vast numbers of people across the world, including many who should know better, have been duped by the mind-game called Operation Obama.

Even people with some understanding of the conspiracy have said things like: ‘Well, at least he’s not Bush’ and ‘Well, at least it’s great to see such a new spirit of hope’. No, he’s not Bush - he’s potentially far more dangerous; and what is the use of a spirit of ‘hope’ if it’s based on a lie? In fact, what use is ‘hope’ at all?




The man is a trickster controlled by supertricksters. A sock puppet controlled by bigger sock puppets who serve an even greater and darker evil. To his masters, Obama is just a means to an end and if it suits them to assassinate him to trigger civil war and upheaval in the United States then that is what they will do.

Obama’s wife, Michelle, who I wouldn’t trust to tell me the date in a calendar factory, said that ‘everything begins and ends with hope’. Utter nonsense. Hope is a meaningless emotion because its fruits are always in the future and, by definition, never in the NOW.

Hope is like riding a carousel horse; no matter how fast you go you never get closer to the one in front. The idea, however, is to persuade you to stay on the horse, despite the evitable disappointment, in the ‘hope’ that things will change. But they don’t because the very system is designed to prevent it.

That’s the way ‘hope’ is employed by the dastardly and devious - take the crap we are giving you now in the ‘hope’ that things will get better (but we know they won’t). Barack Obama is a purveyor of ‘hope’ because his masters want the people to accept what they are given now in the hope that good times will come.

Just do what we demand, oops, sorry, Barack demands, and in return he’ll inspire you to hope that it is all leading to the Promised Land. It isn’t, but, by the time you realise that, it’s too late.

What terrifies the manipulators is that people will abandon hope, as a future, sometime-never projection, and start to demand fairness, justice and freedom now. To avoid this nightmare they need to keep those desires as something to aspire to, not to actually have.

Thus, their man, Obama, sells ‘hope’ as a diversion technique, a holding position, to keep the masses from truly rebelling. We have no job, no food on the table and our home has been foreclosed, but at least we have ‘hope’. Phew, thank goodness for that.

‘I’m hungry, mum, can I have some hope, please?’

’I'm so sorry, darling, you can’t have hope today, only tomorrow - hope is always tomorrow.’

‘So will I eat tomorrow, mum?’

‘We can hope so now, dear, but when we get to tomorrow, we can only hope it’s the next day.’

On and on it goes. That’s how ‘hope’ works. Or rather doesn’t.

Obama’s predominant mantra has been ‘change’. Indeed, his massively-funded, record-breaking campaign was based on that one word - change. This is a technique used by Bill Clinton and many others and it is highly effective because, at any point, the system ensures that most people are not happy with the way life is. So, when you don’t like the status quo, ‘change’ can be a potent message, even if, like Obama, you don’t say what it means.

It has been vital to his success, and that of his controllers, that he has never specified what his ‘hope’, ‘change’, and that other mind-control trigger-word, ‘believe’, were referring to in terms of policy and the way society in general will be affected. Hope for what? Change what? Believe in what? To answer those questions with specifics would have been fatal to Obama’s appeal.

I studied the military/government mind-control programmes and techniques in great detail for many years during the late-1990s and across 2000, and the Obama ‘phenomenon’ is the most blatant mass-mind control operation you could wish to see.

At its core the plan has been to make Obama the focus of everything you hope for, believe in and want to change. This is why it has been crucial for him not to specify and detail what is meant by his ‘hope, ‘change’ and ‘believe’.

However, I can tell you what those words mean in the context of the Obama mind-game. They mean whatever you decide they mean or want them to mean. The idea is for you to project all that you stand for onto him and so he becomes the symbol of you and how you see the world. Specifics would destroy that ‘I am whatever you want me to be’ scenario and so you don’t get any detail, just ‘hope’, ‘change’, and ‘believe’.

They don’t want him to be seen only as ‘the Messiah’; they also want him to be Abraham Lincoln, JFK, or Buddha - anyone you choose to project on him, for he is a blank page, blank screen and empty suit. Obama is a make-your-own, do-it-yourself leader, a projection of your own mind. (If you are still asleep, that is. If you are in any way awake, he’s an open book.)

See the video How Obama Got Elected to see how easy it is to manipulate the masses. It’s child’s play. Click here …

There is no more powerful way of manipulating people than to tell them what they want to hear and to keep shtum about anything they wouldn’t like. Double-glazing salesmen are trained to pick up in general conversation what their target likes and dislikes and to respond accordingly in the way the product is sold. The technique is simply to tell the potential buyer what you have gleaned they want to be told.

Obama comes from the same stable, but on a massively bigger scale and with a whole network of advisors and controllers steeped in the art of manipulating minds, opinions and actions.

Obama’s written-for-him speeches are not from the heart, but from the autocue. The ‘heart’ bit comes from extensive training and his Bill Clintonesque ability to ‘mean it when he says it’, a state of delivery that goes beyond mere acting. Tony Blair was trained in the same way.

But if you take a step back and look at these people dispassionately you can clearly see the techniques they consciously employ. Blair is the most blatant fraud in the way he delivers a line, stops in mid-sentence for emphasis and looks down for fake emotional effect. Obama is a little more slick, but, from where I have been looking this past year, not much. And how have people not seen those cold eyes just above the painted smile?

You can watch his mind working, turning between autocue screens to his left and right, then straight down the camera for his key messages. From-the-heart orators don’t do that; they are too immersed in what they are feeling and saying to give even a passing thought to where they are looking or how the line is delivered.

I worked in television for more than a decade, often reading autocue while a director spoke in my ear telling me what cameras to look at. I have, since the early 1990s, spoken my truth on public stages across the world. I know, therefore, the difference between artificial autocue delivery and body language and talking from the heart without a script. Obama, I repeat, is coming from the autocue, not the heart.

Obama’s speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques and Neuro-Linguistic-Programming, or NLP, and they are carefully constructed to implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the viewer. Click here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches.

As I keep emphasising, the whole Obama circus is an exercise in mass mind control and it has been so successful because so many people live their lives in a permanent state of trance. All of which brings me to the parallels with Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and similar regimes throughout history.

Obama may not look like Hitler, nor sound like Hitler, but the themes are just the same. Germany was in a terrible state economically and militarily in the 1930s in the aftermath of the First World War and the reparations inflicted on the country by the Rothschild/Illuminati-controlled Versailles ‘Peace’ Conference in 1919.

From amid the chaos came the man that Germans saw then in much the same way that so many see Obama today. His name was Adolf Hitler and his oratory and rhetoric, again supported by a ritualistic presentation founded on mind-control techniques, made him appear to be the German ‘messiah’, the German Obama.

Hitler promised ‘change’, ‘hope’ and something to ‘believe in’ amidst the consequences of war and financial collapse. He spoke to vast rallies of adoring followers and a mass movement emerged in support of Hitler’s vision of a new tomorrow.

As the writer Webster Tarpley points out, fascism in its true sense is not just a Police State imposed by a tiny hierarchy. It might end up like that, but first it is brought to power by a mass movement from within the people who have no understanding of what the ‘change’, hope’ and ‘believe’ they are being offered really means. They just know that they want some because, as with Obama, they make it mean what they want it to mean. Only later do they see, to their horror, what they have signed up for.

Obama is far more dangerous than Bush because he can sell a line to those who are in the trance while Boy Bush could not do that on anything like the same scale. Bush was a transparent idiot with no communication skills who needed massive fraud at the polls to get him officially ‘elected’. He could never be the figurehead to inspire a mass movement of the people to support some vacuous ‘hope’, ‘change’ and ‘believe’ when they don’t even know what those words are supposed to mean.

But Obama clearly can, because he has.

One of ‘his’ (his controllers’) prime targets are the young, just as they were with the Nazis and the Hitler Youth Movement. If you think this parallel is far-fetched then have a look at this video to see how extreme Obama worship has already become for some young people. Hitler Youth was just the same. Click here to watch …

In line with this theme, the WorldNetDaily website reported:

‘The official website of President-Elect Barack Obama, Change.gov, originally announced that Obama would "require" all middle school through college students to participate in community service programs; but after a flurry of blogs protested children being drafted into Obama’s proposed youth corps, the website’s wording was softened.

Originally, under the tab "America Serves", Change.gov read, "President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in under served schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps.

"Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year," the site announced.’

For the full story, click here …

Obama said in a speech in July 2008 in Colorado Springs that he wanted to see a ‘civilian national security force’ that would be as powerful and well-funded as the Marines, Navy and Air Force. As Joseph Farah, founder of WorldNetDaily, wrote:

‘If we’re going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn’t this rather a big deal? I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together? Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that? If not, why did he say it? What did he mean?’

Obama meant, amid the flowery words, that he’s not in favour of either peace or freedom. He is a front-man demagogue for the same force that controlled Boy Bush, Clinton, Father Bush, Reagan, Carter, ad infinitum; but the difference is that he has been hyped to such hysterical proportions that he will be allowed to get away with far more than they were, at least until reality dawns on the mass ranks of his hypnotised supporters. And, clearly, that could take some time.

The cabal will be anxious to squeeze every minute from Obama’s honeymoon period and we can expect to see events move quickly after his inauguration in January.

When I was a journalist 30 years ago, I came across a technique that some tabloid newspaper reporters would use to get someone to speak with them. They would work in pairs with the first one knocking on the door of some distressed family who didn’t want to talk with the media. He would tell them he was from a newspaper he didn’t really work for and treat them with aggression and contempt to make them even more upset.

He would then leave and his colleague would knock on the door, tell them the real newspaper he was from, and act like Mr. Nice Guy. He would say that he understood completely how upsetting the other man must have been, but ‘if you will only speak to me exclusively I will make sure that the other man, nor anyone like him, won’t bother you again’. They usually agreed and the scam was complete.

Much the same thing is happening with regard to Bush and Obama. The Neoconservative ‘Republican’ wing of the Illuminati controlled Bush for eight years and led the country into foreign wars and financial chaos (bad guy/problem); now the ‘Democratic’ wing, led by the infamous Zbigniew Brzezinski, has brought forth the ’saviour’, Barack Obama, to lead us into the sunshine with ‘hope’ and ‘change’ (good guy/solution).

Hence even some more aware people say: ‘At least he’s not Bush’.

Apart from the unspecified ‘hope, ‘change’ and ‘believe’, few have any idea what Obama’s policies will be. Public perception comes from having an ‘image’ of him, or a self-projection, not the fine print because Obama doesn’t do fine print until the votes are cast and even then he will hide it in his windbag words.

There is an ‘image’ that Obama is against war, but no he’s not. He says he’s against the invasion of Iraq, though we’ll see what he does about that in office. How can a man calling for more troops, including European troops, to be sent to Afghanistan be against war? He has also said he is prepared to bomb Pakistan and use military force to stop Iran building nuclear weapons and he has appointed Hillary ‘Let’s bomb ‘em’ Clinton (Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations) as Secretary of State and re-appointed Bush’s ‘Let’s bomb ‘em’ Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates (Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations). So that’s the ‘change we can believe in’, then.

Obama isn’t against war at all and, if his controllers have their way, he will engage the US in even more foreign conflicts with the troops sent to their deaths, and the deaths of their targets, on a wave of oratory from the dark suit with the black face who would never go where he’s sending them.

He claims to be a ‘uniter’, which is exactly what Bush said about himself before he came to office, but unity in and of itself is not the issue. Nazi Germany had unity in the early years of the war, but was that a good thing? What matters is what the unity is designed to achieve and Obama’s much-vaunted ‘unity’ is to ‘inspire’ a mass movement to support the Orwellian plans of the Illuminati.

His constant rhetoric about ‘bringing people together’ can be used to justify the ‘coming together’ of the United States, Canada and Mexico in the North American Union; it can be used to concede America’s sovereignty to the ‘coming together’ of the ‘world community’ (world dictatorship); it can be used to unite the believers in their opposition and condemnation of non-believers, which is precisely what happened in Nazi Germany with the book-burning and violent suppression of those who challenged the Hitler regime.

The potential of Obama Mania is endless when it comes to selling fascism as ‘hope, change’, ‘freedom’ and a ‘New America’, or ‘New World’ [Order].

Bush and Cheney were transparent warmongers and would always have struggled to bring in the draft, the compulsory enlistment of people into the military against their will. But it would not be as difficult for Obama in the current climate. For goodness sake, he’s already talking about compulsory community service for middle school, high school and college students and creating a peoples’ army in America.

That’s why I say Obama is far more dangerous to freedom than Bush. In the last eight years Bush could only get part of the way to fascism - Obama has the potential to finish the job, for all the reasons I have mentioned and more.

You only have to look at the cabal behind Obama, and those he has already appointed to his administration team, to see what his ‘change’ is truly planned to be. His mentor, svengali and main controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, and the co-founder, with David Rockefeller, of the Illuminati’s Trilateral Commission.

Brzezinski has admitted publicly that he began to fund and train what he would call today ‘terrorists’ in Afghanistan to oppose the Soviet-controlled government in the capital, Kabul, in the late 1970s. The idea, he said, was to entice the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan to protect the Kabul regime and thus give the rival superpower ‘their Vietnam’. The plan worked at the cost of a million Afghan lives during the Soviet occupation from 1979 to 1989, a consequence that troubles Brzezinski not at all.

Brzezinski’s ‘freedom fighters’ would become known as the ‘Mujahideen’ and later the Taliban and what is claimed to be ‘Al-Qaeda’. This is the man behind ‘anti-war’, Barack Obama. It was common knowledge that President Carter would do nothing involving foreign policy without the okay from Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission which chose Carter for president.

It is one of many great ironies of the Obama presidency that he is demanding massive troop reinforcements to be sent to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban terrorists who were initially armed, trained and organised by Brzezinski, the man behind Obama. As Morpheus says in The Matrix: ‘Fate, it seems, is not without its sense of irony’.

But then, in Brzezinski’s case, it is not ‘fate’, but cold calculation that has brought it all about. The Poland-born Brzezinski has a fierce hatred of Russia and that is still one of his key targets, together with China.

And if they are Brzezinski’s targets, they are Obama’s targets.

The Trilateral Commission and the wider Brzezinski network, including Illuminati fronts like the Ford Foundation, have now chosen Obama and the situation will be the same. Brzezinski will call the shots; Obama’s job is simply to sell them to the people. This is rather alarming when you think that Brzezinski wants to trigger a war involving Russia and China. ‘Obama’s’ policies come straight from Brzezinski’s books. Here is one Brzezinski quote you might recognise and it was made before Obama ran for president:

‘Needed social reassessment … can be encouraged by deliberate civic education that stresses the notion of service to a higher cause than oneself. As some have occasionally urged, a major step in that direction would be the adoption of an obligatory period of national service for every young adult, perhaps involving a variety of congressionally approved domestic or foreign good works.’

Now where have I heard that before?


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Oh come on! While what you say is true it has never been like it was this year. And it isn't so much as what Obama said he would do as it was this overwhelming feeling people had that he was somehow the second coming of Christ or something.

I've said it before...I hope there is some serious hard feelings toward the president by about oh...I don't know say 56% of the voting populous?
I completely agree. People have the highest expectations for this presidency because he is young, fresh, black and congenial. People are going to be disappointed that he wont cure aids, end world hunger or solve all world conflict....
 
Obama is going to end up being a Pelosi-controlled puppet. He's trying to do his own thing, but eventually, the leash will get tightened and he'll have someone's hand up his ass....

And yes, the same can be said for Bush - I think its one of his two biggest flaws (the other being his stupid ego) - the man surrounded himself with a bunch of his dad's asswipe friends (Rummy being a big one). He was too trusting and not smart enough to think that people were steering things in the wrong direction. I do believe Bush is a good person with good intentions, he just went about things the wrong way sometimes - and when he did screw up, he couldn't put his ego aside (or maybe he wasnt allowed to) and just say "ok, I screwed up, lets see what we can do to fix this".

His smartest move was finally letting Rummy go and hiring Gates to be SecDef.
 
I completely agree. People have the highest expectations for this presidency because he is young, fresh, black and congenial. People are going to be disappointed that he wont cure aids, end world hunger or solve all world conflict....

X10!! The problem is/was his "change" slogan. He promised immediate change to get elected, and then once he won, he said the change would take time. Gotta love the promises that are made and then broken by each and every president.
 
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X10!! The problem is/was his "change" slogan. He promised immediate change to get elected, and then once he won, he said the change would take time. Gotta love the promises that are made and then broken by each and every president.

Well you know if he changed everything at once, he wouldn't have a platform to run on in 2012...he's gotta leave room for improvement/progress to show that his "work of art" isn't complete yet...
 
It will be even more interesting to see what the liberal media does when Mr. "O" doesn't live up to his promises. :wierd:
 
...blame it on the SC Justices that Bush appointed?
 
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