Healthcare Reform? They lie so much, they're unable to recognize TRUTH!

[XJEEPER]

The Healthcare Bill can and should be repealed. Similar plans have been a complete failure in other countries, many of them are going bankrupt. (See Greece)

There is a process for repealing this legislation and it is "your" responsibilty to elect Senators and Reps from your State that will do your Will.

The majority of the American people were against this bill, yet it was dictated to Us that "this was in our best interest".

The Will of the People cannot be ignored or denied, if it is then we are being ruled by a Dictatorship.

atriot:

 

[Boatwrench]

There are parts of the National Healthcare Bill that are very beneficial to the average working america and a few provisions that have a direct positive impact on my family. Should we throw the baby out with the bath water or is it better to deconstruct the bill piece by piece? Rather than the sky is falling with doomsday predictions isn't goodburtons posting a better course of action?

"I guess we'll just wait and see what the outcome of the bill is when it takes effect... "

In an earlier post that I am now to lazy to search out I called for a voter revolt. Let us not relect anyone, let us not vote for anyone that has the word incumbent next to their name. (there are very bad points for what I am advocating here). The response was luke warm...well I like my senator, congressperson, I don't like Pelosi (or insert the name of your favorite villian elected official here)... Those type of responses to my call to action need a cup. If their senator or rep were such great folks how come they didn't try harder to stop the offending bill from passing?

Jeff, you are correct about the will of the people, but not a lot of people have the will.

Yeah, I am in an onery mood today. :wave:

 

[joe_peters]

1. It is OBAMACARE--don't forget it, and don't stop saying it as LOUD as you can.

2. After 10 1/2 years in the Marines I at least qualify for VA health care, which is a good thing because we can barely afford my Wife's Blue Cross/Blue Shield, which was scheduled to increase 15 percent on the premiums this year. That is until OBAMACARE passed. Seems her old policy doesn't fit the OBAMACARE requirements, so her coverage ends 6/30/2010, but not to worry, there is a new OBAMACARE policy she can have--fewer things are covered, co-pays are higher across the board, and the best part is it only costs THIRTY-ONE PERCENT more than her old policy would have cost AFTER THE FIFTEEN PERCENT scheduled increase--now that is OBAMACARE at its finest--a hell of a lot less for a hell of a lot more.

3. So now we have to refinance our home to lower the house payments so we can afford to pay for OBAMACARE. Thanks to OBAMACARE our mortgage won't be payed off and our home free and clear when we retire. Thanks to OBAMACARE we will still have a mortgage payment when we are living on our retirement savings and whatever will be left of social security.

There isn't one single Progressive Socialist hiding under the DAMOCRAT label that should be left in office.

 

[avnsteve]

Jeff, you are correct about the will of the people, but not a lot of people have the will.

and those of us that do have the will are labeled militia and placed on watch lists...

we're ripe for a revolution gentleman...

 

[Boatwrench]

We can have a bloodless revolution this primary season, followed with another barrage at the ballot box in November. Unfortunately a thread I started about a voters revolt must have been sent to the can. There were several responses that stated they were happy with their elected representative...well if you are happy with the one you voted in then you are part of the problem.

 

[XJEEPER]

We can have a bloodless revolution this primary season, followed with another barrage at the ballot box in November. Unfortunately a thread I started about a voters revolt must have been sent to the can. There were several responses that stated they were happy with their elected representative...well if you are happy with the one you voted in then you are part of the problem.

Ignorance is bliss......the complacent will soon find themselves shackled.

Our Founding Fathers were fully aware of this and predicted it.

As for the "good" in the Progressive's Healthcare Bill......I wouldn't eat a delicious looking cake if I knew it had a little bit of poison in it, would you?

This joke of a bill was never about Healthcare Reform and anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant and naive...... I'm been posting up links to the facts for months and the predictions are falling into place. The bill was written by Progressive Radicals, whom folks like Harry Reid thanked for their contribution. These are the same folks that created Cap and Trade legislation.









Our country is being taken over from within our own government and we have ourselves to blame for allowing those in power to go unchecked.

Time to evaluate what's truely important to you, if your Reps aren't doing YOUR Will, they need to be notified that you will be doing everything in your power to replace them with someone who will represent you, uphold the Constitution and protect your God-given Rights and Freedoms.

Here in Utah, we just sent Senator Bennett packing......Senator Hatch is next. They've done some good, but they've become complacent and snuggled up to one to many scumbag Progressives, which has cost us valuable resources and rights.

There is no gray area, folks. The forces of evil are at hand and you must pick a side.

 

[goodburbon]

My favorite part is "this isn't a government healthcare takeover" "this isn't a single payer system.
If all it's doing is regulating health care and insurance, why does it cost anything, much less a trillion dollars?

 

[XJEEPER]

Health Care Law
63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan- MAY 24, 2010


Sixty-three percent (63%) of all voters expect the health care plan to increase the federal deficit. Just 12% expect the bill to push the deficit down, while 13% say it will have no impact.

Fifty-five percent (55%) say the plan will make the quality of health care in the country worse. Twenty percent (20%) expect it to improve the quality of health care, and 18% think quality will stay about the same.

Fifty-five percent (55%) also expect the health care plan to drive up the cost of health care rather than achieve its stated goal of causing those costs to go down. Only 18% believe health care costs will indeed go down because of the plan’s passage. Another 16% expect costs to stay about the same.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._events/healthcare/march_2010/health_care_law

 

[RichP]

Health Care Law
63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan- MAY 24, 2010


Sixty-three percent (63%) of all voters expect the health care plan to increase the federal deficit. Just 12% expect the bill to push the deficit down, while 13% say it will have no impact.

Fifty-five percent (55%) say the plan will make the quality of health care in the country worse. Twenty percent (20%) expect it to improve the quality of health care, and 18% think quality will stay about the same.

Fifty-five percent (55%) also expect the health care plan to drive up the cost of health care rather than achieve its stated goal of causing those costs to go down. Only 18% believe health care costs will indeed go down because of the plan’s passage. Another 16% expect costs to stay about the same.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._events/healthcare/march_2010/health_care_law

Show me one bill that those asshat clowns in DC have passed in the last 10 or even 20 years that has had it's 'as advertised' effects on what it was written for and not disastrous collateral damage two or even eight years after it was passed.

 

[XJEEPER]

Show me one bill that those @#!*% clowns in DC have passed in the last 10 or even 20 years that has had it's 'as advertised' effects on what it was written for and not disastrous collateral damage two or even eight years after it was passed.

Agreed. :twak:

 

[goodburbon]

Why would it affect the deficit? We'll just print the money, that doesn't cost that much right?

 

[XJEEPER]

WASHINGTON (AP) - Over and over in the health care debate, President Barack Obama said people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it.

But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to make changes to their health plans under the new law. In just three years, a majority of workers—51 percent—will be in plans subject to new federal requirements, according to the draft.


"What we are getting here is a clear indication that most plans will have to change," said James Gelfand, health policy director for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "From an employer's point of view that's a bad thing. These changes, whether or not they're good for consumers, are most certainly accompanied by a cost."

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said it showed that Obama's assurance that Americans would be able to keep the plans they currently have was "a myth" all along.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9G993800&show_article=1


On January 1, 2011, insurers will be required to maintain an 80 percent medical loss ratio (MLR) in the individual market. This means that 80 percent of revenue from premiums must be spent on medical claims, not on administrative costs or profits.

The National Association of Insurance Commissioners recently held a teleconference on the MLR’s impact, as several insurers begin to consider exiting the individual market in certain states where meeting the new MLR requirement would be not be viable. Decision time is now, as insurers must give policyholders six months notice before terminating a contract.

According to Dowling and Partners, an insurance research firm, major players such as Aetna, Assurant, Mega Life, and United Health are likely to bail out of the individual market in at least some states. As a result, 1 to 2 million Americans could lose their current coverage. So much for promises.

http://blog.heritage.org/tag/side-effects/

 

[Darky]

What I see with the 80% MLR is insurers raising prices and then paying more out to the doctors. That way they can still pull in the same profits, doctors get more money, and we end up seeing increased costs. Hm. That doesn't sound so promising.

 

[kastein]

Don't worry, Obama will save the day! He's busy going :nono: to the insurance companies and telling them not to use anything as an excuse to hike prices up.

Wonder how that'll work out for him? Without outright autocratic BS going on, anyways.

and this is why this whole disaster was a terrible idea.