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BRIANHO13
June 6th, 2008, 06:22
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii17/AdamDowling/HDORE/e42826d8.jpg?t=1212342550

These will allow you to run a better shackle angle, which will improve your off road capability as well as your on road ride.

These will allow you to lower your upper mounting position by 3 inches (lift would be around 1.5" if you maintain a vertical shackle), and move it forward up to 5". If you want to run longer spring you can simply flip the the shackle bracket.

More pictures can be seen here, http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=955999

If you would like to buy a set they will be $145 to your door for what is shown plus an extra shackle bolt and the two washers and nuts to hold the two pieces together. We are still sourcing the frame inserts, once we find those we will offer them as well (separatly).

Please contact myself or Dirk Pitt (Adam Dowling) for purchasing info.

BOB
June 7th, 2008, 12:12
Adam, sent you a pm

BOB

BRIANHO13
June 17th, 2008, 14:27
ALL ORDERS TO DATE HAVE BEEN SHIPPED.
11 MORE SETS IN STOCK NOW.

BigWhiteXJ
June 22nd, 2008, 22:37
Sent a pm

-Art

smcdonaldaz
June 23rd, 2008, 22:03
These will allow you to run a better shackle angle, which will improve your off road capability as well as your on road ride.

These will allow you to lower your upper mounting position by 3 inches (lift would be around 1.5" if you maintain a vertical shackle), and move it forward up to 5". If you want to run longer spring you can simply flip the the shackle bracket.

More pictures can be seen here, http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=955999

If you would like to buy a set they will be $130 to your door for what is shown plus an extra shackle bolt and the two washers and nuts to hold the two pieces together. We are still sourcing the frame inserts, once we find those we will offer them as well (separatly).

Please contact myself or Dirk Pitt (Adam Dowling) for purchasing info.

When will you post the winner of your contest? Original post said the 22nd.

BRIANHO13
June 24th, 2008, 03:52
When will you post the winner of your contest? Original post said the 22nd.


http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?p=243944525#post243944525

RedHeep
June 24th, 2008, 04:00
Very nice pieces. Install pics next month.

BigWhiteXJ
June 26th, 2008, 23:46
Great pieces installed nicely, we are headed out this weekend for a 5 day wheelin trip, we will see how these hold up. I will post up some picks when i get back.

C85D4x4
July 17th, 2008, 06:00
I guess ill post up in here too.....

I Finally got them installed. From only taking it out around the block 1 time, Ill I can say is...........the ride...........is amazingly smooth!!!

I can now push up and down on the corner of my rear bumper and see and feel movement.

Ill let everyone know how well it does next time I take it out on the trail.


Here are some pics of it installed

(Note: I took out the bolts for the frame rail so I can get by trailer hitch back on, and I also loosed the adjustment nuts so I can fine tune the shackle angle this weekend. So no flaming me for installing it wrong or that my shackle angle looks off)

O and sorry for the crapy pics, I will get better 1s once it’s all properly installed and on the trail


http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0202.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0204.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0205-1.jpg

proskier101
July 18th, 2008, 12:36
i will be getting these soon

proskier101
July 18th, 2008, 13:42
i dont see how you can just flip these to run a longer spring, there is a metal plate that is just below the shakle holes that would apear to be on the wrong side..

BRIANHO13
July 21st, 2008, 04:39
i dont see how you can just flip these to run a longer spring, there is a metal plate that is just below the shakle holes that would apear to be on the wrong side..

The only piece you have to flip to run a longer spring is the lower "U-shapped" piece.

Odds are you wouldn't have to flip the U-shaped piece to run a longer spring unless you are extending your wheelbase. There is a small bit of steel that would have to be trimmed from the unibody to flip the U-shapped piece but trimming would be very minimal (you also might have to clearance the bumper, depending on what you are running).

C85D4x4
July 22nd, 2008, 04:46
Flex test updates

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0232.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0237.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0235.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0222.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0224.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/c85d4x4/IMG_0230.jpg

Reaper
September 15th, 2008, 09:11
Just ordered a set of these...looking forward to fixing my awful shackle angle.

BIgDaddyChia
September 20th, 2008, 21:38
I may have to order these simply for the fact i snapped a weld no in the sotck shackle location and this may be a safer inexpensive alternative to my jerry rigging job.

Senior_XJ
September 22nd, 2008, 22:14
Man,, FAST shipping!!!!! And these things are BEEFY!!!!! I cant wait to get em in!!!!

Thanks guys!!

dinorl007
October 8th, 2008, 10:49
super fast shipping and as everyone has said these things are stout, excellent craftmanship, cant wait to install thabnks again ray

Mosephus
November 10th, 2008, 09:47
I haven't read everything so I might of missed it, but is hardware provided?

dinorl007
November 10th, 2008, 10:17
yes hardware is provided, i have had mine on for a week now and they are an excellent upgrade imo, one of the best things i have doen, the ride and flex is much better than it was will tyr to post some pics if i can figure out how to do it

C85D4x4
November 11th, 2008, 08:49
yes hardware is provided, i have had mine on for a week now and they are an excellent upgrade imo, one of the best things i have doen, the ride and flex is much better than it was will tyr to post some pics if i can figure out how to do it

Use photobucket.com to host them.

If you cant figure it out PM me for my Email and Ill post them up for you.

tonofclay2
November 27th, 2008, 14:39
These things look amazing, what an idea. Has anyone run these with aftermarket shackles? I have the RE shackles that came with my 4.5" kit and wonder how much the lift would be? I hope this means I can cut my 3" blocks in half!! Just like that guy from go.jeep, hdoffroadengineering should create those lower spacers for the front shocks.

BRIANHO13
November 27th, 2008, 16:24
PM SENT

Mosephus
November 27th, 2008, 19:16
Thanks for the great Product! Here is a little write-up I did.

http://rockrunneroffroad.com/blog/

bcmaxx
December 7th, 2008, 11:50
Anyone have a pic of these installed with a trailer hitch? just kinda curious

C85D4x4
December 9th, 2008, 10:55
Anyone have a pic of these installed with a trailer hitch? just kinda curious

There are pics with my hitch on the first page towards the bottom.

High2by
December 9th, 2008, 14:03
I've got a set of these on mine and I must say, they are great!! When I get to that point with my new project, I will have another set. Thanks Brian!!

besthaticouldo
December 9th, 2008, 15:28
these are on my list


how much more lift are they?

billyjp2
December 13th, 2008, 17:44
lift would be around 1.5" if you maintain a vertical shackle

JNickel101
January 8th, 2009, 11:30
um.....ok....brackets or painting....the debate begins....

kcjeep6
January 21st, 2009, 12:01
I received the brackets, they look really nice.
I have a Few questions
How much does this change the pinion angle?
What is the recommended welding procedure?

BRIANHO13
January 21st, 2009, 13:30
I received the brackets, they look really nice.
I have a Few questions
How much does this change the pinion angle?
What is the recommended welding procedure?

NO one has complained about the pinion angle change so I would say not much, MIG is the method I used when installing the sets I have installed.

planefixer
January 22nd, 2009, 18:32
I managed to rip the weld nut and quite a bit of metal out on my passenger side shackle box.Needless to say I just ordered a pair.:cheers:

bcmaxx
January 23rd, 2009, 14:17
anyone point me towards some install instruculations? there was a write up by mosephus, but its gone now. thanks!

BRIANHO13
January 23rd, 2009, 16:41
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=955999&highlight=RELOCATION+BRACKETS

HaleYes
January 23rd, 2009, 19:55
I assisted with an install of these beasty pieces. You will not be dissapointed in these things. Very nice setup and install was simple. Kinda wish I could afford a pair!!!:laugh3:

Chad29860
February 7th, 2009, 06:08
Any type of discount for a multiple order? There are three of us right now and possible more that are fixing to order some.

BRIANHO13
February 7th, 2009, 10:40
Any type of discount for a multiple order? There are three of us right now and possible more that are fixing to order some.

pm sent

magimerlin
February 22nd, 2009, 16:12
Brian,
You have a PM and an order coming in. Just payed a few minutes ago. Thank you for a great product...
Jay

BRIANHO13
February 22nd, 2009, 17:14
Thanks for the orders guys.

We had to raise the price on these a little, but are still well worth the money.

bcmaxx
February 22nd, 2009, 19:56
Thanks for the orders guys.

We had to raise the price on these a little, but are still well worth the money.
well worth it!:worship:

SnagglePuss
February 23rd, 2009, 20:49
Is it recommended to use these with longer shackles?

BRIANHO13
February 24th, 2009, 03:44
Is it recommended to use these with longer shackles?


You can use any shackle you want, the longer the shackle the more flex you will get.

abxjer
February 25th, 2009, 12:52
What would be a ballpark price of shipping to Edmonton, Alberta, Canada?

BRIANHO13
February 25th, 2009, 13:01
PM SENT

magimerlin
February 28th, 2009, 12:07
Got mine in the mail other day. Damb these are beefy. Nice product. I will be putting then on this weekend along with longer shackles from RC

CanMan
March 2nd, 2009, 20:25
Got mine today, these show up fast. And are beefy.

Thanks again Brian!

Mullet Man
March 20th, 2009, 19:36
ordered on a Wed. showed up on Friday of the same week!:confused1
i didnt think the Postal service could move that fast.

thanks Brian.:patriot:

Mullet Man
March 20th, 2009, 19:37
ordered on a Wed. showed up on Friday of the same week!:confused1
i didnt think the Postal service could move that fast.
brackets are beef!

thanks Brian.:patriot:

XJfire75
March 22nd, 2009, 21:48
So if I put a set of these on and put my shackle angle around where it needs to be(45 degree angle correct?) about how much lift would it equal to with the following:

4.5" RC leafs
1.25" shackle
Shackle relocation brackets and shackle set at a good angle

Just trying to make sure my shocks will work if I get these and since my shackles are pointing straight down I think theyll be a great upgrade heh

BRIANHO13
March 23rd, 2009, 03:36
Between 5/8-3/4" of lift.

SnagglePuss
March 23rd, 2009, 04:51
Figured I'd get these and a set of shackles from RuffStuff.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/shackles-c-18.html?osCsid=ad701e576a5f24cc85b9ad744da55991
Which longer shackle do you guys recommend with my 4.5" springs?

XJfire75
March 23rd, 2009, 06:41
Between 5/8-3/4" of lift.

K so around 6.5" total. thats where I want it. I'll let you know asap on these. Thanks man.


Anyone running close to the same set-up? About how much lift you at with 4.5" leafs, 1.25" shackles and these brackets?

BRIANHO13
March 23rd, 2009, 07:45
Figured I'd get these and a set of shackles from RuffStuff.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/shackles-c-18.html?osCsid=ad701e576a5f24cc85b9ad744da55991
Which longer shackle do you guys recommend with my 4.5" springs?
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The longer the shackle you run the more down travel you will get.

DrMoab
March 23rd, 2009, 09:40
I "finally" got around to ordering these today...can't wait to fix that saggy bottom.

Mike1331
March 23rd, 2009, 10:31
they seem overpriced.

BRIANHO13
March 23rd, 2009, 12:31
Its all 1/4" beef, that saves you a bunch of time were you to try to make them yourself, I am sorry you feel they are overpriced.

Mike1331
March 23rd, 2009, 14:05
me thinks you should drop it given the current state of economic affairs that surround us...;-)

CanMan
March 23rd, 2009, 15:32
Well worth the money.

bcmaxx
March 23rd, 2009, 15:40
they seem overpriced.
or your cheap!

Los Lobos
March 23rd, 2009, 17:44
or your cheap!

Of course, what would you expect from an XJ owner. That's why R & D is so limited for new product, everybody want's stuff for free. You design it and someone else copies it.

This isn't aimed at anyone specifically but is a reality for XJ owners.

Los Lobos
March 23rd, 2009, 17:45
Oh and thanks Brian! Product looks great and I about fell over as fast as it got here.

chpmnsws6
March 24th, 2009, 13:11
I've got mine and couldn't be happier! I actually mounted hooks up while putting them in to hold the relocator in place (since I don't have a rear hitch)

Between these 1/4 inch plates and the extra large washers, there should be no issues pulling someone (or myself) out of the muck

DrMoab
March 24th, 2009, 20:01
I always think it's funny when someone says something like a product like this being over priced.

Could I build a set like that myself? Sure. Might cost me $30 bucks in material to do it.

Now, lets see....

I go get the $30 bucks of metal to make them. Take several measurements, run down to my buddies house since I don't have a welder and tack it together. Throw it up in there and damn... Looks like I measured wrong.

Take it all apart and start over again.

Now I am at $60 bucks worth of metal, a half of tank of gas to get back and forth to the metal store and the buddies house. $10 bucks for beer for the buddy.

Now I have killed at least 6 hours of my time. Since I make about $28 an hour thats

$60 for metal
$30 for gas
$10 for beer
and $168 of my time.

Nope sorry I'm still well ahead of the game and by supporting our vendors I am helping to keep someone employed in this time of economic uncertainty. :D

XJfire75
March 25th, 2009, 09:54
Well said Dr.Moab. Heck I work at a machine shop, have a welder and the material but not the time. And I only get paid $9.50. But I'm still going to get some of these because it's helping our forum and a few guys keep a job. And I'm too lazy after working with metal and welders all day to do my own crap LOL...

Mike1331
March 25th, 2009, 11:05
yeah yeah, don't get all your panties in a bunch. I'm just cheap, i'm sure i'll end up buying a set.

DrMoab
March 27th, 2009, 23:01
Got them in the mail and on the Jeep tonight. It's great to see the saggy ass syndrome gone.

The very best surprise putting these on was the fact that I was running Rocky Road removable mud flaps. The bracket that holds the mud flaps on interfered with the front edge of the shackle box but the very front adjustment hole for the shackle happens to be the same diameter and sit almost exactly in the same place as the mud flap bracket did. All I had to do was re drill a hole about 1/4 inch further out on the mud flap holder and it fit perfectly!

Very very happy with this product.

mitsumotors
April 6th, 2009, 13:18
what is a desirable shackle angle? mine are almost straight up and down but the bottom is a little further towards the rear of the jeep. I am interested in getting these but don't want more than 3/4" lift from them. is this possible?

Los Lobos
April 6th, 2009, 14:20
45 degrees would be nice.

I got mine installed the other day and a definate improvement in ride over the perpendicular shackle.

BRIANHO13
April 6th, 2009, 16:47
what is a desirable shackle angle? mine are almost straight up and down but the bottom is a little further towards the rear of the jeep. I am interested in getting these but don't want more than 3/4" lift from them. is this possible?

Depending on the shackle you are running you get between 3/4-1" of lift @ 45 degrees which is the ideal angle.

CanMan
April 6th, 2009, 20:08
I am interested in getting these but don't want more than 3/4" lift from them. is this possible?

I did a set on a rig and got 1 1/4" lift with a 45 degree angle.

SnagglePuss
April 6th, 2009, 21:28
I did a set on a rig and got 1 1/4" lift with a 45 degree angle.

With the same shackles?

CanMan
April 6th, 2009, 21:45
With the same shackles?

Yup.

Ba-Riedo
April 6th, 2009, 23:02
I did a set on a rig and got 1 1/4" lift with a 45 degree angle.

The ride is way better after this too...:cheers:

-Alex

justin_502
April 26th, 2009, 07:35
Im up too high in the rear as is, im running stock shackles in the stock spot. 4.5 re springs are sitting at 6.25 lol for over a year! I dont want to go higher! but my shackles are hitting the frame in the back from the longer leaf. If put it at a 45* angle and used another hole for the shackle is there any way to use this to bring the rear end down?

BRIANHO13
April 26th, 2009, 09:25
You can take a leaf or two out of each pack to lower it down a little.

89xjgrey
April 28th, 2009, 07:49
Will these work in conjunction with a factory hitch? Are the three holes large enough to accept the factory hitch bolts? Also, are they in stock and would the hitch mount below or above the relocation brackets? Thanks...

BRIANHO13
April 28th, 2009, 08:54
hitch would be below, yes the holes would fit the bolts. And yes they are in stock and ready to ship.

unclethumbtack
May 2nd, 2009, 20:15
When I started building my jeep, everybody wanted me to do a 4-link in the rear. I decided to stick with leaves and run the shackle relocation from the hdoffroad guys. here is a video that shows how the back works with the kit. Starting at about the 1:27 mark of the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or3JPW6KCSA

POLAR_JEEP_04
May 16th, 2009, 12:30
ordered a set for myself and two other club members today I cant wait!

89xjgrey
May 16th, 2009, 14:50
I can't wait for mine either!

89xjgrey
May 26th, 2009, 15:01
Figured I'd post a few pics of mine in action!

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x55/empireoffroad/Wellsville%2005242009/P5240452.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x55/empireoffroad/Wellsville%2005242009/P5240453.jpg

justin_502
May 27th, 2009, 07:05
hitch would be below, yes the holes would fit the bolts. And yes they are in stock and ready to ship.


So you do not need to remove the factory tow hitch to get these on? I need to order a set up. Im in the process of moving this weekend so next week ill put in a order.

BRIANHO13
May 27th, 2009, 07:32
These mount between the hitch and the "frame", so the hitch will have to be 1/4" lower.

a1racer
May 31st, 2009, 17:37
i am going to have to order some of these soon.

FishyXJ
June 6th, 2009, 18:28
check your PM

michel3372
June 7th, 2009, 04:49
Can they be used for every lift you have or do they have their limits for a maximum lift?

Because when i see the pictures i can imagine that they do great for a 4.5 or 6 inch lift max but if you have a bigger lift like the leafs from big offroad they can give problems when you flex or not? I think that the drop will be enormous when you have a big lift. Does somebody have suggestions? Could you get some driveline problems when you flex too the max with a big lift and relocation brackets?

Hope somebody could help me because i like those bracket a lot.

BRIANHO13
June 7th, 2009, 10:45
As long as you are running an xj shcakle you shouldn't have any problems running these.

kcjeep6
June 7th, 2009, 15:52
OK I need to speak up here; I noticed several issues when I installed these brackets.
I was running 4.5 RE springs, RE boomerangs with 1.5” of blocks. When I installed the relocations brackets I went to RE 5.5 springs, removed 1’ of blocks and set my shackles at 45*.
I am very pleased with the outcome and would recommend this mod to everyone. Although my pinion angle now is too high and when I measurer my shock mounts the forward or passenger side is an inch shorter than the driver side. When you lower the rear of a spring it will rotate the pinion up and change your shock mounting lengths it’s just plan geometry.
This is a great kit just be aware you may need to adjust your pinion angle and relocate your lower shock mounts.

BRIANHO13
June 7th, 2009, 18:55
Thanks for the positive feedback, everyone please keep in mind anytime you change the rear suspension it might be necesary to shim your pinion.

FlexdXJ
June 8th, 2009, 13:53
Thanks for the positive feedback, everyone please keep in mind anytime you change the rear suspension it might be necesary to shim your pinion.

Hey brain how much height do these add to the suspension exactly? I may want to throw these on my rig in the future.

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BRIANHO13
June 8th, 2009, 17:59
Depending on the angle you pick and the length of the shackle used its .75-1.5 inches.

FlexdXJ
June 8th, 2009, 18:09
Depending on the angle you pick and the length of the shackle used its .75-1.5 inches.

Cool thanks man!

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WTNFDXJ
June 11th, 2009, 21:06
OK I need to speak up here; I noticed several issues when I installed these brackets.
I was running 4.5 RE springs, RE boomerangs with 1.5” of blocks. When I installed the relocations brackets I went to RE 5.5 springs, removed 1’ of blocks and set my shackles at 45*.
I am very pleased with the outcome and would recommend this mod to everyone. Although my pinion angle now is too high and when I measurer my shock mounts the forward or passenger side is an inch shorter than the driver side. When you lower the rear of a spring it will rotate the pinion up and change your shock mounting lengths it’s just plan geometry.
This is a great kit just be aware you may need to adjust your pinion angle and relocate your lower shock mounts.


has anyone else had this problem im really thinking of buying a pair

BRIANHO13
June 12th, 2009, 19:01
This is the first person I have seen that actually had a problem with the pinion angle.

Los Lobos
June 12th, 2009, 20:59
My pinion angle has increased from this. I have zero problems related to this bracket and my pinion angle. My problem was I let a company weld on my spring perches(before i got my welder) and the fella measured it in a parking lot with a slope and didn't adjust it and I didn't say anything. That being said I still have no issues with it.

justin_502
June 18th, 2009, 08:13
I ordered up a set a few days ago, I hope it rides better in the rear now, My angle sucks!

hoover
July 1st, 2009, 18:14
Do these just bolt in or do I need a welder?

BRIANHO13
July 25th, 2009, 07:42
PM sent on the question above, thanks for all the orders guys.

justin_502
August 2nd, 2009, 13:20
Finally got around to installing these, I was worried about putting the rear up too much. It somehow leveled it out! my angle went from 90* to 35*. Before the back sat up WAY higher then the front. With the angle at 35* it leveled it out. Hey Brianho13, what would the con be running the 35* instead of the 45*? Would that do the anti squat more? Im at about 6.5- 7" in the rear and was running a 10 inch travel shock. Now it is holding me back what looks to be 3-4 inches of travel! Im not sure yet to get the bilsterin 5150s like up front in the 12" or would that not be enough up travel? Hard to take a compressed measurement, springs are stiff

BRIANHO13
August 2nd, 2009, 14:48
35 will just give you a tad less down travel. Not sure I can answer the rest of your questions hopefuly someone else with a similar setup will chime in.

High2by
August 14th, 2009, 13:09
At 35* wouldn't you have less up travel? You would actually gain more down travel from static load over the 45*. Or am I goofed up???

I think the squat would be the same unless you bottom the shackle out. Changing the shackle angle doesn't change the spring load rate. Right?

When you say holding you back 3-4" is that down or up travel? I would think up travel but not sure.

FitchVA
August 16th, 2009, 05:04
another satisfied customer :thumbup:

shackle angle before:

http://fitchva.com/jeep/gallery1/albums/album126/IMG_1366.jpg


after:

http://fitchva.com/jeep/gallery1/albums/album126/IMG_1414.jpg

ExTankerGuy
August 27th, 2009, 15:19
You should try it one hole forward...

xxmidianxx
August 27th, 2009, 19:45
You should try it one hole forward...


Ok I can't help it...

That's what she said.

BRIANHO13
August 28th, 2009, 03:17
Ok I can't help it...

That's what she said.
:shhh::clap:

BRIANHO13
September 2nd, 2009, 16:27
On sale now, 2 weeks only.

XJ=Fun
September 5th, 2009, 02:15
how much they on sale for?

BRIANHO13
September 5th, 2009, 05:25
$135 shipped, 20 off regular price.

x2elite
September 6th, 2009, 22:48
Any discount for ordering both sets of stiffeners, and the relocators all at the same time?

BRIANHO13
September 7th, 2009, 07:30
PM SENT.

Built2Flex
September 16th, 2009, 18:07
I ordered some and they were delivered in less than a week! They are stout, really heavy duty. I can't wait to install. Thanks Brian.

Kevin3151
October 7th, 2009, 22:52
I ordered some and they were delivered in less than a week! They are stout, really heavy duty. I can't wait to install. Thanks Brian.

I also just got some after ordering just a couple days ago. Beefy looking things, I too am installing this weekend I think.

Thanks!

KH

HaleYes
October 28th, 2009, 14:02
Bump for this one.
Got mine ordered.
Hoping to have them installed next week.

flyingbrick
October 29th, 2009, 17:23
so do i have to plate the outside of my shackle box still or do these alone allow me to drop my shackle?

BRIANHO13
October 29th, 2009, 17:49
so do i have to plate the outside of my shackle box still or do these alone allow me to drop my shackle?

They are the plates that go around your shackle box and the new mounts.

RlCHARD CRANlUM
November 4th, 2009, 08:53
Great product!!!

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/RlCHARD-CRANlUM/IMG_2674.jpg

flyingbrick
November 4th, 2009, 13:18
HOLY CRAP
got these in the mail today and the lady at the package center almost had a hernia
these things are BEEFY,
photos don't do them justice

-96JeepSpeed-
November 6th, 2009, 17:08
On sale again any time soon???!

BRIANHO13
November 7th, 2009, 04:11
No planned anytime soon....

Mtb Jak
December 6th, 2009, 22:52
:us:weld em!

They are sexy and i towed a uhaul across country with no problem!! abused the hell out of them out here!! Great product! They improve ride and I can assure you towing was not affected!!

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs147.snc1/5451_1135610195159_1374450182_30413413_39982_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs127.snc1/5451_1135609795149_1374450182_30413403_218756_n.jp g

Check out that shackle angle! hasta


the drop is great!

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs132.snc1/5651_1119099782409_1374450182_30370131_3131010_n.j pg

Good product!

MaxxXJ
December 6th, 2009, 23:24
if i didnt have 234893457348 things in line to buy i'd get me a set of these =/ i sprayed pb blaster on my bolts for a long time to get the top shackle mount to come free without breaking now im in a delimma on stock shackles with a relocation bracket OR boomerang shackles with stock brackets... or... fab up my own brackets and buy some aftermarket shackles...

FlexdXJ
December 7th, 2009, 14:16
if i didnt have 234893457348 things in line to buy i'd get me a set of these =/ i sprayed pb blaster on my bolts for a long time to get the top shackle mount to come free without breaking now im in a delimma on stock shackles with a relocation bracket OR boomerang shackles with stock brackets... or... fab up my own brackets and buy some aftermarket shackles...

Just buy These. Brian's boxes take all the guess work out of it!

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rockin ron
February 6th, 2010, 15:14
finally decided this had to be the fix i need! Got them in the mail today and they are stout, can`t wait to get em on. I have longer Alcan springs on and the shackles are beatin up the back of shackle box, this should be great when done. Box arrived broke open by USPS but I guess I got it all? I will post pics when done.

DeftwillP
February 10th, 2010, 18:03
Can these be installed with lengthened shackles maintaining the same ride height? I'm already happy with the current ride height and don't want to gain any lift. I've seen where you can lift anywhere between 1 to 3 inches. I don't want any lift really.

BRIANHO13
February 10th, 2010, 18:52
They can be used with any shackle, depending on the angle you set your shackle at the minimum lift is around 3/4" but you can always pull a leaf out of your pack and lower it that way if your springs sit too high.

MaxxXJ
February 10th, 2010, 19:22
my flex is OK right now with my stock shackles and bastard back, idk how this relocation will help me if im still on stock shackles... i'd be happy with 3/4" in the rear, but if i dont get any more flex out of my rear... then its wasted money yanno?

ok i think one of my main reasons im lacking a little bit of flex is i am sitting at 4 inches and my shocks are from my old 2" lift with 3" pro comp lift shocks.

this is what i got now.
how it sits.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e88/sik05civic/jeep%20pics/IMG_0426-1.jpg

full stuff rear (it wont compress any more)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e88/sik05civic/jeep%20pics/IMG_0433.jpg
fully extended before a tire gets light off the ground.(you can see where the pass. front and driver rear's started spinning from lack of traction.)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e88/sik05civic/jeep%20pics/IMG_0432.jpg


in the near future im going to relocate the rear bottom shock bolt to the center of the axle so the shock length in the rear will be fixed BUT idk how flex will be effected.

MaxxXJ
February 10th, 2010, 19:24
sorry fully extended and it wont let me edit my post
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e88/sik05civic/jeep%20pics/IMG_0432.jpg

Mosephus
February 10th, 2010, 20:42
Or I might suggest stock shackles if your running longer shackles.

MaxxXJ
February 10th, 2010, 21:21
Or I might suggest stock shackles if your running longer shackles.

im running stock shackles with a stock XJ main leaf with 89 dodge dakota lowers.

Justpunchit
February 27th, 2010, 09:13
Just got these bad boys in first off it was shipped lighting fast and these look great!!!

FlexdXJ
March 7th, 2010, 13:25
I just got a set for mine. Got them for a REALLY good price that starts with 0! :D

91to99
March 8th, 2010, 14:44
just wondering if these will go on sale anytime soon and how long they will take to get to slc... i am missing my jeep which i have only had for 3 weeks and need to fix my oops (broken weld nut:cry:).

BRIANHO13
March 8th, 2010, 16:20
No sales planned anytime soon, But if you order today you will have them by the weekend.

Stout96XJ
March 9th, 2010, 23:19
just ordered a pair tonight! when do you think theyll be at my door:dunce:

BRIANHO13
March 10th, 2010, 03:47
Probably Friday (Saturday at the latest), I would try to get them there earlier but you ordered to late:D.

RedHeep
March 10th, 2010, 17:25
Shameless plug for a great product.

You can't climb it if you can't keep all the wheels down.


http://redheep.net/images/Jeep/WF010/DSCF3057.jpg

Stout96XJ
March 12th, 2010, 12:40
just got them today. these things are pure beef!

BRIANHO13
April 3rd, 2010, 09:22
Enter "EASTER" at checkout for 10% off, valid today and tomorrow only(4/3 and 4/4).

$700later
April 27th, 2010, 17:46
i plan on buying these toward the end of summer when i will be doing some other work to my jeep. they aren't going off the market anytime soon are they? i just bought a house so funds are pretty tight at the moment.

BRIANHO13
April 27th, 2010, 18:55
Not going anywhere anytime soon. Look forward to the order.

woody431
May 18th, 2010, 20:21
Hey Brian, just ordered my brackets. Already have the stiffeners. Can't wait for another great product, thanks!

woody431
May 24th, 2010, 20:21
Just got my brackets today, great craftmanship. Cant wait to install them, thanks for another great transaction Brian.

MaxxXJ
August 5th, 2010, 21:41
sooo... im bringing this back cuz i got questions, i have 4" of lift from my leafs on stock shackles, will the stock shackles work with your lift or what can i do to keep my lift height and maybe a set of longer/boomerang shackles? my jeep rides super stiff and i'd like more flex in the rear but not totally lose my load capacity...

BRIANHO13
August 6th, 2010, 07:20
sooo... im bringing this back cuz i got questions, i have 4" of lift from my leafs on stock shackles, will the stock shackles work with your lift or what can i do to keep my lift height and maybe a set of longer/boomerang shackles? my jeep rides super stiff and i'd like more flex in the rear but not totally lose my load capacity...

Yes they work with stock shackles and you will get 3/4-1" of lift. Your ride will be greatly improved.

XJCasper
November 8th, 2010, 17:51
Bumping this one to the top, so I don't forget to order for Christmas

el_roy1985
November 9th, 2010, 19:15
I would love to get this. Unfortunately, I don't want anymore lift. I already need to get the front up a little more to match the rear. Guess I'll have to figure something out that will move the shackle mount back and not down. Looks like a great product though, wish it would work for me.

BRIANHO13
November 30th, 2010, 17:31
On sale month of December $125 to your door.

BRIANHO13
December 19th, 2010, 06:31
Order by Tuesday and they should be there in time for Christmas.

Thanks for all the orders.

rweaver138
December 21st, 2010, 11:35
My girlfriend ordered me a set for Christmas, she let me have a sneak peek at them yesterday and let me say these things are BEEF!

can't wait to get them on

praetorian
December 24th, 2010, 11:21
I got me some!

XJCasper
December 24th, 2010, 23:56
ME TOO

twodoorXJ
December 25th, 2010, 09:37
Just ordered mine :)

BRIANHO13
December 26th, 2010, 13:03
Don't let this deal miss you.

T to the B
December 27th, 2010, 03:49
I picked up a used set of these and some Teraflex shackles. They certainly look bomb-proof. I was kinda skeptical about the ride quality because I know how much internet-hype can be generated about stuff. After a few days on some faimiliar streets, I must say the ride certainly increased. The crossing/transitioning over bumps and obstacles was the biggest notice was.

They're currently just bolted in, but will weld on when I get the opportunity.

Is it odd that I didn't hafta cut/modify my OE shackle pocket? I see where everybody snips theres up and what not, but I just put the brackets up and tapped it on home with the 4lb hammer then shot the bolt through.

Geo Fry
December 31st, 2010, 13:55
Just ordered a pair of these off your website. Is today the last day for the $20 discount?

BRIANHO13
January 1st, 2011, 04:58
The sale will go on for another day or two.

justanotherjeepr
March 5th, 2011, 20:37
Installed a set of these today. Fantastic product!

Not for the faint of heart! Lots of cutting and massaging the stock shackle boxes. Gained 1.5" of height and about 3" of droop - and a considerable improvement in the ride.

Tack welded the upper bracket to the frame and have (3) 2"x1/2" bolts through the brackets and into the 2x4's which have nuts welded inside. Toward the end of the 2x4's, there is another bolt. I may add another one in this area at the bottom as well.

The driver's side 2x4 is notched to clear the gas tank filler tubes.

Bumper was mounted below the frame with 2"x1.5" angle iron welded to the bumper. Cut that off and stuck 3/16" wall 2x4's 16" into the frame and welded it to the bumper. Planning to put 2-3 bolts through the side of the frame per side after I do the cut and fold.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/2011-03-05192020.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/2011-03-05191937.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/2011-03-05191953.jpg

whitexj98
March 5th, 2011, 22:50
Installed a set of these today. Fantastic product!

Not for the faint of heart! Lots of cutting and massaging the stock shackle boxes. Gained 1.5" of height and about 3" of droop - and a considerable improvement in the ride.

Tack welded the upper bracket to the frame and have (3) 2"x1/2" bolts through the brackets and into the 2x4's which have nuts welded inside. Toward the end of the 2x4's, there is another bolt. I may add another one in this area at the bottom as well.

The driver's side 2x4 is notched to clear the gas tank filler tubes.

Bumper was mounted below the frame with 2"x1.5" angle iron welded to the bumper. Cut that off and stuck 3/16" wall 2x4's 16" into the frame and welded it to the bumper. Planning to put 2-3 bolts through the side of the frame per side after I do the cut and fold.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/2011-03-05192020.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/2011-03-05191937.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/2011-03-05191953.jpg

Mine required no massaging or cutting of the stock shackel boxes :dunno:

justanotherjeepr
March 6th, 2011, 08:50
Mine required no massaging or cutting of the stock shackel boxes :dunno:

I don't see how its possible to install them without modifying the shackle box. It flares out around the lower perimeter of the box and in mine case was too low. Maybe your boxes were already cut or maybe they were different.

Either way thats cool though.


Do you guys normally put a crush sleeve in the stock shackle box before bolting the outer box on? I did but was curious if that was typical practice or not.

T to the B
March 6th, 2011, 08:58
Maybe I installed mine wrong? Mine went INSIDE the OE shackle box. Oh well, been workin' fine for months now.

justanotherjeepr
March 6th, 2011, 19:13
I was under the impression these went outside the factory box. Maybe I installed them wrong?

Kevin3151
March 6th, 2011, 20:20
Maybe look at the pictures instead of posting mindless things?

KH

praetorian
March 6th, 2011, 21:15
I installed mine on the outside of the OE shackle box and had to cut it up a bit to get it to fit. I did use some galvanized pipe as a crush sleeve. I didn't weld the new boxes to the body but I did weld the two pieces together.

justanotherjeepr
March 6th, 2011, 21:36
Maybe look at the pictures instead of posting mindless things?

KH

Thanks - I did read several threads on this and looked at a lot of pictures. Everyone I saw did it on the outside but sometimes you just never know.

T to the B
March 6th, 2011, 22:17
:rattle: I guess i'm the odd-ball. Well, maybe if i'm bored one day i'll take'em out and re-do them, but I see no point in doing so if they're not causing me any problems.

justanotherjeepr
March 7th, 2011, 19:42
I haven't seen this anywhere so here's a comparison showing droop before and after

Here are two showing the rear at full droop before the shackle boxes.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/TJ_Flares1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/DSCI0175.jpg


Here's a good one showing the (lack of) droop on the passenger's side
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/82209-7Mile/DSCI0145.jpg

Here's a good shot showing the driver's side droop now:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07151057.jpg

Here's the XJ after the boxes. Too high in the rear.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07150430.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07150450.jpg

Some more poser flex shots:
(you can see the wife's WJ with 2" lift in this one!
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07151114.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07152430.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07152445.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07151036.jpg

Added a 1.5" of lift to the front

After extra lift in the front.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07152636.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/JeepMods/ShackleBoxes/2011-03-07152656.jpg

ExTankerGuy
March 8th, 2011, 07:25
Looks like you need to go one more hole forward. :D

justanotherjeepr
March 8th, 2011, 09:49
Looks like you need to go one more hole forward. :D

You don't think that would be too far forward and cause me to bottom out on the shackles? I guess there's only one way to find out..

87manche
March 12th, 2011, 08:55
You don't think that would be too far forward and cause me to bottom out on the shackles? I guess there's only one way to find out..

that's what bumpstops are for.

gorillaxj
April 4th, 2011, 20:48
I got mine! great quality. very happy with my purchase. perfect answer to leveling out the back and better shackle angle.

WheelsUp
April 5th, 2011, 18:22
Just got these installed.

Before:
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu306/krotor/Jeepin/IMG-20110328-00189.jpg

After:
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu306/krotor/Jeepin/IMG-20110404-00216.jpg

I'm running 3" leafs and 1½" shackles, and the brackets added about an inch.

rweaver138
April 26th, 2011, 22:18
finally got these things installed and they are very beefy! there were a couple fitment issues, but nothing a quick hit with a grinder could't take care of.

overall i have to say its a great product, made my shackle angle 10x better, and rides noticeably smoother on the road.

great product!

ktm racer 419
April 27th, 2011, 11:14
finally got these things installed and they are very beefy! there were a couple fitment issues, but nothing a quick hit with a grinder could't take care of.

overall i have to say its a great product, made my shackle angle 10x better, and rides noticeably smoother on the road.

great product!

your jeep pretty much just sucked. missing sheet metal and whatnot

nuke
July 4th, 2011, 18:19
Quick question, I'm sitting exactly where I want to in the back end right now. So, I have a couple options to correct the lift a set of these may bring. (In the mail now)

Option 1:
Currently running 1.5" extended shackles in the rear. I could go back to the stock shackle.

or

Option 2:
I could remove a leaf from my Bastard Pack...

Thoughts?

MaxxXJ
July 4th, 2011, 18:29
Quick question, I'm sitting exactly where I want to in the back end right now. So, I have a couple options to correct the lift a set of these may bring. (In the mail now)

Option 1:
Currently running 1.5" extended shackles in the rear. I could go back to the stock shackle.

or

Option 2:
I could remove a leaf from my Bastard Pack...

Thoughts?

From my experience bastard packs have been known to ride pretty stiff, so if it were me I would remove a leaf and keep the shackle for more flex. That's just me thou.

On the other side if you carry a lot of gear it could make your ride to soft.

nuke
July 5th, 2011, 23:55
Hmm...one side done, went from 21.5" to 22" center hub to fender. I won't have to do anything. :D