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PLEASE HELP....seriously

lankchevy

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sw mo
okay, went and worked on a trail at my friends house tonight, that we have righfuly named "carnage creek". weve got about 200 yards of it done so far, its an old dried up NASTY creek bed. i and my brother following me in his toyota got as far as we have cleared and found a decent place to turn around at. we got turned around with me leading us back out, about 1/4 of the way out all the sudden my steering goes funky and snap, crackle, pop, now i have no steering, no front wheel drive, and the front of my jeep just shifted about 4 inches to the right. i said some choice words and leaned down from inside the jeep and looked underneath and saw my driveshaft hanging, i think no biggie, snaped another joint, i have a spare and some straps on me. (by the way its about 9:45 PM at this point, we started about 7, it gets dark at 8:45) so i shut it off and hop out, i walk to the front to get a better look, and see my track bar and axle mount hanging almost to the ground. look some more and notice my passenger side LCA mount is about as f-ed as it can get without breaking off the axle. and somehow my u joint didnt break, but on the front pinion yoke, the little ear that keeps the caps from being able to slide out, somehow broke, letting one cap jump out, then the other side, and let the joint get out, and all of this happened without the straps that hold the cups getting messed up?????? by the way, did i mention that my brothers toy is behind mine, with no other way out, its 10 pm, and he has to be at work in 6 hours to work a 14 hour shift? i go into trail fix mode, winch the front of my jeep sideways to a tree to center the axle again, noticing in that process that my passenger side shock is trashed from being slammed into the unibody rail. so i get my axle centered under the front, and run a section of smaller chain from the steering stabilizer mount on the axle, to the opposite side unibody rail, i think good, im halfway to haveing a makeshift way of keeping the axle centered. i go to look for my other peice of chain to go from pass unibody rail to oppossing axle, and remeber i left it home when i cant find it. by the way, we didnt have any flashlights either. only 4 cell phones to use for light. next, i realize when i winched the front of my jeep back over, i nearly pulled the driverside tire off the bead, thats wonderful. my brother remebers he has a 12 volt compressor in his tool box that has a built in light. we put some more air in the tire since it only had about 6 psi in it. i make use of the newfound light source and set pondering under my jeep trying to figure out what i could substite for chain to hold the axle from moving the other way, dont quite think duct tape and/or zip ties are gonna handle this one. then my brother starts to complain about needing home and how his wife is gonna be pissed at him, and how he has to work in the morning. so we leave the jeep and the toy, get a ride in my other friends jeep(owner of the property) and get back to my house to my truck and take my brother home. tommarow after work i gotta go figure out a way to get the heep out of there. am i on the right track with using two peices of chains to form an X to hold it close to center. leaving enuf slack so the chain wont break during flexing, but not so much the axle just flops around????i think i can limp out with the lca mount screwed up, the other side looked ok. and im gonna throw 2 new caps on the u joint and hope they stay in for another 150 or so yards. this is not an easy trail by any means. my jeep was having a time making it thru some of it before it broke. and my brothers 84 toy pickup on 33s, locked in the rear, and flexy suspension was having a very hard time with some of it. there isnt more than a 20 yard, at very most, break between pretty good obstacles. i dont have any pics of it yet as this was only the 2nd time out on it and i havent taken a camera with me yet but i will get some taken tommarow and post them. how would u fix this just to get it off the trail.

kolby
 
You lost me at 'carnage creek'.

Any chance you can cut the irrelevant details and skip right to the problem and question?

I mean, 'by the way, did i mention that my brothers toy is behind mine, with no other way out, its 10 pm, and he has to be at work in 6 hours to work a 14 hour shift?' holds no relevance to a pending solution...

Just tryin' to help, man. Think about the other guy reading it. Keep it straight forward and on topic. ;)
 
okay cliffnotes,

-went and cut a new trail
-on the way out, after dark, it broke,
-what would u do if your jeep ripped the track bar axle mount off, seriously tweeked the passenger side lower controll arm axle mount, and messed up the front pinion yoke so it doesnt want to hold one sides u joint caps in anymore?

this better?

kolby
 
but we all know if i just posted that to start with u would have said some more details would help you give advice in this situation and it needed to be more detailed in order for me to get some help, its a story, stories are better with detail. but yes im sorry, it is a little long.

kolby
 
lankchevy said:
okay cliffnotes,

-went and cut a new trail
-on the way out, after dark, it broke,
-what would u do if your jeep ripped the track bar axle mount off, seriously tweeked the passenger side lower controll arm axle mount, and messed up the front pinion yoke so it doesnt want to hold one sides u joint caps in anymore?

this better?

kolby
New front axle. And get it trussed and add some skid plates.
 
I would use batteries to do a trail weld on the track bar axle mount and hope it holds for 200 yards. At least you're close to stuff and can take anything back out there with you.
 
lankchevy said:
okay cliffnotes,

-went and cut a new trail
-on the way out, after dark, it broke,
-what would u do if your jeep ripped the track bar axle mount off, seriously tweeked the passenger side lower controll arm axle mount, and messed up the front pinion yoke so it doesnt want to hold one sides u joint caps in anymore?

this better?

kolby

Rad, thanks.

Haul another axle out there and swap it. Either that or get someone with a mobile welder to head out with you. The yoke doesn't really matter, as someone could probably keep a strap hooked to you to help you along if you needed the 4WD.

Thanks for the verbose explanation. ;)
 
parts yard d30... any gears, any disco / non, any condition brakes...

spend 100 and grab the jackstands and do it...

mgith also want to grab parts yard UCA and LCA's if yours are fawked that bad...

i wouldnt bother to re-conect the shocks, just coils, trackbar, Control arms, and steering...

then id get home and re-do the mounts on the old axle, or upgrade...

just PLEASE dont give up and leave the vehicle out there for the hippies to blame us as teh 4x4 community for sucking at life...
 
lol dont worry im way to poor and i like my jeep way to much just to abandon it out there. i dont think ill buy a new axle, i think ill just pull this one out after i get it to safty, and chop the old lca mounts and trackbar mounts off, then fab some new ones from 1/4 plate and call it good.

kolby
 
by the way, i forgot to ask a question i had, is there a snoballs chance in hell taht i could bolt the end of my track bar to the steering stabilizer mount on the axle? it looked close to the same width, with close to the same size bolt hole, and its inline with the track bar mount, just like 3 inches higher, just wondering if anyone had tried it.

kolby
 
lankchevy said:
by the way, i forgot to ask a question i had, is there a snoballs chance in hell taht i could bolt the end of my track bar to the steering stabilizer mount on the axle? it looked close to the same width, with close to the same size bolt hole, and its inline with the track bar mount, just like 3 inches higher, just wondering if anyone had tried it.

kolby

Yeah you could do that if the stabilizer mount is still in good shape. This is a trail fix, so you should be fine with that. You'll just be a bit off-center, but it should be stable enough.
 
the stabilzer mount is still there and well (i think its well, i know its there) so i guess ill try that. the yoke itself isnt broke, just the little tab that keeps the cap from being able to slide out is broken off.

kolby
 
Man have I been there before. Trackbar snapped in half and had nothing for steering. Luckly had a portable welder and a bunch of extra bolts and such. Right where it snapped in half, got the winch, winched to the side it broke, got it matched up (where it cracked) and welded a bolt as a splint. Worked pretty good; till the steering box ripped out of the frame :p

Now, to fix your problem & answer your question....Invest in a portable welder and carry a little extra metal w/ you and your usually pretty good.


-Red
 
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