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Okay, I really need to figure out what the issue is with my Jeep and I can't afford to just throw new parts at it. I need to know where the problem lies. Please help!
It's a 1989 XJ Pioneer, 4.0, 4WD, automatic, NP242 transfer case. 145,000 miles on it. Just bought it a month ago.
This is going to be a bit long, but I want to describe the problem as accurately as I can.
I started noticing the Jeep was wobbly when making a turn, left turns were a little worse. It felt like I was driving over bumps when turning, even if the road was smooth. On u-turns, it was worse, it felt like it was in 4WD because the tires would hop and skip a little. The steering wheel did not wobble, just the rest of the Jeep. I also noticed the Jeep would wobble side to side a little bit when slowing down to a stop or starting from a stop when driving straight.
I had no money to fix this right away, but still had to drive it. It started getting worse (I think largely because of the horrible construction zones I had to drive through where they left huge potholes in the road).
Then one day, the problem changed. (Note: I am not 100% sure this isn't two separate things.) The wobble when turning got much less severe. It felt like I was only hitting one bump when turning instead of three or four and sometimes it didn't do it at all.
BUT, the wobble when driving slowly and straight got much, much worse. It now feels like one of the wheels is out of round. It feels like I am driving over large bumps when I'm driving under 35 mph. Over 35 mph I can still hear it and feel it, but it smooths out mostly. The whole Jeep rocks side to side when going slow. There is now a very large vibration that goes along with the bumpy feeling. Also, the speedometer needle bounces in sync with the wobble and vibration until it get over 35 mph, then it too smooths out with the rest of the symptoms.
The problem is definitely related to the vehicle's speed, the vibes/wobble slow down and get bigger as I slow down and vice versa.
This problem does not occur all the time, though! Only after I've been driving it a bit and usually starts after I get it up past 45 mph. The speedometer always bounces, though. And it may be my imagination, but when the new vibe/wobble is less, the old wobble on turning feeling is worse.
I've checked over the front end as best I can. Everything there seems solid. There is absolutely no play in the hubs or the u-joints that I can see. There is no slop in any of the other components that I can tell. The wheels spin freely with no trouble or noise, except a small clicking sound that sounds like it's coming from inside the axle. The rear wheels are the same, they spin smoothly and quietly and have no play in them. And the wheels are not bent.
Now I suspect it's something on the axles, but I also wonder about the transfer case. It was suggested to me that it was stuck in 4WD. But I can tell the difference when it is really in 4WD. And when it's jacked up, the axles spin freely and independently from the other. However, the transfer case does leak and when I bought it, it was 2/3 of quart low on fluid and made moaning sounds in 4WD and didn't want to come out of 4WD easily (it works better now that there is fluid in it). And then there's the speedometer thing, which comes from the transfer case.
Sorry that was so long. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
It's a 1989 XJ Pioneer, 4.0, 4WD, automatic, NP242 transfer case. 145,000 miles on it. Just bought it a month ago.
This is going to be a bit long, but I want to describe the problem as accurately as I can.
I started noticing the Jeep was wobbly when making a turn, left turns were a little worse. It felt like I was driving over bumps when turning, even if the road was smooth. On u-turns, it was worse, it felt like it was in 4WD because the tires would hop and skip a little. The steering wheel did not wobble, just the rest of the Jeep. I also noticed the Jeep would wobble side to side a little bit when slowing down to a stop or starting from a stop when driving straight.
I had no money to fix this right away, but still had to drive it. It started getting worse (I think largely because of the horrible construction zones I had to drive through where they left huge potholes in the road).
Then one day, the problem changed. (Note: I am not 100% sure this isn't two separate things.) The wobble when turning got much less severe. It felt like I was only hitting one bump when turning instead of three or four and sometimes it didn't do it at all.
BUT, the wobble when driving slowly and straight got much, much worse. It now feels like one of the wheels is out of round. It feels like I am driving over large bumps when I'm driving under 35 mph. Over 35 mph I can still hear it and feel it, but it smooths out mostly. The whole Jeep rocks side to side when going slow. There is now a very large vibration that goes along with the bumpy feeling. Also, the speedometer needle bounces in sync with the wobble and vibration until it get over 35 mph, then it too smooths out with the rest of the symptoms.
The problem is definitely related to the vehicle's speed, the vibes/wobble slow down and get bigger as I slow down and vice versa.
This problem does not occur all the time, though! Only after I've been driving it a bit and usually starts after I get it up past 45 mph. The speedometer always bounces, though. And it may be my imagination, but when the new vibe/wobble is less, the old wobble on turning feeling is worse.
I've checked over the front end as best I can. Everything there seems solid. There is absolutely no play in the hubs or the u-joints that I can see. There is no slop in any of the other components that I can tell. The wheels spin freely with no trouble or noise, except a small clicking sound that sounds like it's coming from inside the axle. The rear wheels are the same, they spin smoothly and quietly and have no play in them. And the wheels are not bent.
Now I suspect it's something on the axles, but I also wonder about the transfer case. It was suggested to me that it was stuck in 4WD. But I can tell the difference when it is really in 4WD. And when it's jacked up, the axles spin freely and independently from the other. However, the transfer case does leak and when I bought it, it was 2/3 of quart low on fluid and made moaning sounds in 4WD and didn't want to come out of 4WD easily (it works better now that there is fluid in it). And then there's the speedometer thing, which comes from the transfer case.
Sorry that was so long. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!