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Thank you Vetrans!

day late but not ever forgotten...

GRNT, Eagle, Tom C, Tom R, Fred, Chris & Germaine, Isaac, Glenn, John B, Jon K, Led, Jon 11H LOL not the ITV, rolling class 3 cherryjuice leak :rolleyes: and all you other Vets, Thanks for serving! :salute:

I too was in the Army (19D30P) for a couple hitches awhile ago...no combat though, I was just passing time between reform school and prison LOL.

Watched a show on PBS last night about some Medal of Honor recipients... solid folks who did what they felt they had to do at the time...and did it well.

I miss spending time with my dad and uncles (all WWII Army and AAC vets - dad was a paratrooper/75mm Redleg in WWII and Korea- all passed on now) and missed meeting my father in law who was a 30 year Marine Warrant Officer (WWII and Korea) None were boastful of their service, pretty much just humbled by it all. I plan to attend the Memorial Day activities next year in DC when they open the WWII memorial.
 
My father (who served in the Air Force in the Vietnam War) emailed me this.... (long)

HONORING A TRAITOR

This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms.Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like:"Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At
the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by theNorth Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitaryconfinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one yearin a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431


I was born in 1978 and the only things I know of the war are the VERY limited things my father told me and the distorted crap the media says.

I thank all the men and women who sevre & who have served!
 
Well there are different meanings......

It was meant as a jest actually. "Stop Putting Out Bunk Info" is one sort of. I have seen several of these leters lately and they really irritate me. The latest one is about the boy killed by the two 10 year old boys in England.

Also look here: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13964
 
I don't think that it was all "bunk" info, but I do beleive that some of the info could have been fabricated or reworded. Just like any story that is passed along some of it will be changed whether it was intentional or not.

The point is that any and all people like her should be hung!
:hang:

You may not like the fact that we are at war but you better support the men and women that are fighting on your behalf. You can protest all you want, scream, yell, and voice your displeasure about our appointed leaders, but please give your support to the men and women putting their life on the line.


just my .02

shannon
 
I think you missed my point........

I agree that she and all the smogg nazis should be hung! My point was don't trust what you get on the net as fact and research b4 passing it along. :) Hope I did not offend bc that was not what it was meant to do.
 
What came 1st........

.......the chicken or the egg?

What's the truth on the internet? The Email about Jane Fonda or the urban legend website?

The truth about Hillary Clinton & the Black Panthers or snope.com?

Dunno.

Tom
 
So true!

God bless our troops!
 
Re: day late but not ever forgotten...

woody said:
GRNT, Eagle, Tom C, Tom R, Fred, Chris & Germaine, Isaac, Glenn, John B, Jon K, Led, Jon 11H LOL not the ITV, rolling class 3 cherryjuice leak :rolleyes: and all you other Vets, Thanks for serving! :salute:

Sniff, sniff, forgotten again. :( J/K, I'm finally a vet since I retired this year. :) Wouldn't trade the 20 years and 11 days I did for anything.
 
That is why I did nto try to name you all.......

B/c I knew I'd forget someone! I appreciate your service JnJ!
 
"Sniff, sniff, forgotten again."

Sorry JnJ, Tucker, Rich P and all the rest of you Vets out there.

Thanks for serving!!!
 
Re: day late but not ever forgotten...

woody said:
GRNT, Eagle, Tom C, Tom R, Fred, Chris & Germaine, Isaac, Glenn, John B, Jon K, Led, Jon 11H LOL not the ITV, rolling class 3 cherryjuice leak :rolleyes: and all you other Vets, Thanks for serving! :salute:

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ITV in Germany, but ft lewis, we used a JEEEEEEEP. I miss my M151, though, maybe that missle launcher making it top heavy means I should get a roof rack and put 2 spares on it to get that feeling back..
 
Thanks poomba....

I strive to give good info! That is why I tried to get more than one source on the info. I guess that one jurnalism class did teach me some thing! LOL! And on a side note, yes she had the right to protest but without our boys overseas to defend freedom she might not have that right.
 
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