You have clearly missed the point and your negative and ignorant information just hurts a good cause, and I can't understand why anyone would try to be such an asshole.
In your research on this subject you should try to stick to what is going on with Johnson Valley, as your links just point out how clueless you are about the subject and you have no idea what the off-road community is trying to do for Johnson Valley.
I still don't understand why anyone from our community would be a "negative nanny" to this, but your stupidity has really disappointed me.
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Way to completely venture into name calling, topic changing, point missing, and displaying an intellect that let's simply say has "opportunities". I guess when you can't argue a point with anything that sounds like fact you resort to name calling. Have another Pabst Blue Ribbon while I try to explain what's been happening, is happening, and will happen.
JV, USMC is trying to expand West into the JV from their current location. OK that about sum it up? Does it get anymore complicated? The users are trying to stop them because we like JV and we are asking them why can't they expand East. This is simply TODAY'S battle. Of which we will lose for the most part, much like we've been losing for the last 30 years. And will continue to lose in the future. Why, because unsophisticated losers like you can't admit our stradegy isn't working, won't work and never has or will. The only thing that is proven to work is litigation. Did you even bother to go to the links I provided, how can you argue with the other sides success?
Answer this question; have we and our tatic of, "let's be the BLM, USFS, County of El Dorado, et al best buddy, let's show up at meetings en masse, let's write letters, let's show them were good people and we are in the right..." HAS THIS WORKED? HAS THIS WORKED? HAVE WE GAINED OR LOST PLACES TO WHEEL? Answer that f...ing question! You KNOW what the answer is, WE HAVE LOST MORE TRAILS than we all care to admit. Just in the last 20 years right here in the Eldo NF I can name at least half a dozen trails. The fact that Eldo NF is travel prohibited unless posted open is a huge loss. But hey, let's just keep our heads in the sand and write 20k comments letters that no one will read. Let's just keep calling a fellow wheeler who may have a point names like asshole, idiot, and ignorant.
When you guys wake up, and can point out exactly where I'm in error, without resorting to childish name calling, then we will have a conversation taking place. I'm not entirely sure you guys are capable of that though.
is a start to financial support. 
