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Rattlesnake Safety

Ed A. Stevens

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In case you haven't seen this

(from David C. Edgar - Forest Safety Officer / HAZMAT Specialist
RLEO/FS Chief Accident Investigator
San Bernardino National Forest) :

RATTLESNAKE PRECAUTIONS

A recent California resident's death from snakebite is a stark reminder
that prompt medical attention to snake bites must be initiated immediately.
This individual was experienced with snakes and raised them as a child.
Last week while he was walking in a dry riverbed in Riverside County, after
hiking approximately 500 yards from his vehicle he stepped on what appeared
to be a small wooden log. The log turned out to be a rattlesnake and
struck twice biting him in the left shin. After realizing the seriousness
of his bite, he used his cell phone to call his family and also his
employer in an attempt to locate a medical facility. The venom from the
snake caused a condition known as disseminated intravascular coagulation,
which leads to strokes within the body. After receiving medical care at
both Kaiser and Loma Linda University Medical Center, the victim succumbed
to the snakes poison and was removed from life support on Monday May 19.
The need to receive rapid medical attention is imperative and should not be
delayed.


Rattlesnakes, like reptiles, can't regulate their own body temperature. In
temperatures below 50 degrees F, they tend to stay inactive in warmer
shelters. In cold weather they usually go into a semi-hibernation to
conserve body heat. Ultimately, it's temperature, not the time of day or
season, which determines how active rattlesnakes are. As Southern
California generally has warm temperature most of the year, rattlesnakes
can be active, and encountered, almost year-round in Inland Empire.


Common Inland Empire Rattlers

· Southern Pacific Rattle Snake (R/S): Found in coastal areas.
· Western Diamondback R/S: Found in San Bernardino, San Diego, Imperial
and eastern portions of Riverside County.
· Red Diamond R/S: Found in the local mountain range slopes s/w desert
regions.
· Speckled R/S: Desert regions.
· Mojave R/S: High Mojave Desert.
Characteristics of Rattlesnakes
· Broad, triangular or narrow head on a thin neck.
· Hooded eyes w/oval shaped pupils.
· Have folded fangs.
· Pits between eyes and nostrils to detect warm-blooded body heat of
prey.
· Rattle at end of tail if not broken off.

Symptoms of a Rattlesnake Bite

· Fang marks.
· Pain, tingling, burning, swelling or discoloration at bite area.
· Numbness/tingling of mouth/tongue.
· Nausea/vomiting or weakness/dizziness.
· Sweating and/or chills.
· Breathing difficulty.
First Aid Procedures
· Keep the victim calm.
· Gently wash the bite w/water and soap.
· Immobilize the bite and keep it lower than the heart.
· Call 9-1-1 or transport the victim.
First Aid Don'ts
· Don't apply a tourniquet.
· Don't apply ice to bite area.
· Don't cut the bite and suck venom out.
· Don't use suction cups, very ineffective.
· Don't give victim alcohol to drink.
Important Facts About Rattlesnakes
· 8,000 bites are reported annually; 9-15 people die (less than 1%)
· 25% of adult snakebites are "dry bites" - no venom injected in the
victim.
· Baby rattlers are more dangerous - they inject venom into their
victims.
· Snakes can only strike a distance 1/2 their own body length.
· Snakes only strike when hunting or when threatened.
· Fingers, hands, arms, ankles or feet are the most commonly bitten.
· Rattles are not always present to warn you - they could be missing.
· Mojave Rattler venom is a neurotoxin - it attacks the nervous system
and may cause paralysis and impair/stop breathing.
· All other rattlesnake venom is hemotoxin in nature - causing tissue
damage at the bite and impairs the clotting ability of the blood.

Rattlesnake Bite Prevention

· Wear sturdy leather shoes/boots and long pants.
· Walk in clear areas - avoid high vegetation areas and use a walking
stick to probe ahead, if you do.
· Don't reach into blind areas.
· Step up on, or walk around, but don't step directly over logs, tree
stumps and large rocks.
· Always look for concealed snakes before picking up or moving sticks,
logs, branches and rocks; wear leather gloves when doing so.
· After dark, use a flashlight.
· Exterminate rodents - food source for snakes - from your area.
· If you hear a rattler - FREEZE - stay calm, locate the snake and move
away slowly.
· If you see a snake, don't approach, tease, try to capture or try to
handle it, over half of all rattlesnake bites occur during such
activities.

Rattlesnake Reminder
Remember, rattlesnakes play an important role in our environment by helping
to control the rodent population. Efforts should be made to avoid killing
them unless absolutely necessary or call animal control if you find one on
your property.

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Yes, it's Ratttlesnake season again
 
Thanks Ed.
 
I've been bitten and still have lumps in the flesh at the bite site. Fishing in a very remote area I stuck my hand in a crevice (to retrieve a lure) without looking first.

There was no warning, no rattle, nothing, just a sudden sting. I killed the snake and tossed it into the truck and drove three hours to the hospital. By that time I was so ill that my vision was failing. Fortunately, they had antivenin ready to hand, and a doctor familiar with reptile bites.

Since then I have gone out of my way to capture rattlers when I come across them. I carry a lasso and bag and take them to a milker.

There is a serious shortage of antivenin nationwide. Please do not arbitrarily kill rattlesnakes. Collect them alive ONLY IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCED.
 
Ive benn bitten by copperheads before, but not rattlers. Youll get pretty sick with coppehead venom.
 
Dayton Firefighter just died from a bite from an African Rhino Viper and he had lots of experience with them!!!!
 
So Ed, your telling me pouring beer on them in the dark isn't a good idea? For some reason I didn't think it was at the time, but my friend did. His excuse was "give him one last sip of pleasure before he dies".

Thanks for the info. I run into them occasionally when I'm stupid and go hunting too early. Around here mid to late November is safe and as long as it stay's below 50 they usually don't come out of thier dens.

I thought I would also mention that if you frequent areas with fanged creatures, it's a good idea to wear good leather gloves while changing tires. It seems that at least one person in my home town (not Boise) gets sick from getting cut on a fang broken off in the side of a tire. I've never heard of anyone having to get anti-venom for it, but they get sick enough they remember next time.

Later,
Lincoln
 
Lincoln said:
So Ed, your telling me pouring beer on them in the dark isn't a good idea? For some reason I didn't think it was at the time, but my friend did. His excuse was "give him one last sip of pleasure before he dies".



A good idea? Maybe?

It reminds me of the time a friend went out to the back of the shed to recycle some beer, and we all started making jokes because he was taking a long time. We could see his head through a window but he wasn't moving (that's a looooong relief, etc.). Seems he stepped out by the tractor implements and found a sidewinder camped out, in the dark, after he started watering the sage.

We walked out to find the poor guy, afraid to move or call out, hoping we would come out and scare the snake away. It seems he heard the snake's initial rattle, and tried to direct the flow down between his shoes to miss the snake, only to find the snake seeking the liquid warmth.

I don't know if it's an approved snake repellant, but the ranch manager (a guy who was older than dirt itself) brought out a CO2 fire extinguisher and ran off the snake with a few blasts of the liquid ice (he said he kept the extinguisher around for the snakes he would find around the horses).

Maybe cold beer would work to scare them away, although the effective target range seems kind of short?

This faded memory reminds me, I need to find a small CO2 fire extinguisher (add one more thing to the list, with kids around).
 
Thats why I never liked tents without floors, we were at Ft Hood, army pup tent, I had my low to the ground cot, issue bag, the other guy had issue mat and bag. Snake crawled into his bag and woke him up where he lay for close to 6 hours with it on his chest. I kinda believe in ESP cause he woke me out of a sound sleep. Looked at him, eyes wide open to twice their size. Asked whats wrong, no answer, just stared. Got out, got the medic, he tried, when we got closer like to touch him he got more terrified. Got the first shirt and we saw something move the bag from inside and both his arms were behind his head and seeing as how his nickname wasn't tripod we figured somthing was in the bag with him. Took the tent down, moved everything away and started wetting the bag down from the feet end, snake came out the top once he started getting wet. Big SOB, to me anyway, we don't get em that big in PA. As if the chiggers were not bad enough,I slept in my track after that, buttoned up.
 
I have a snake bite kit, but this information says: "Don't cut the bite and suck venom out. Don't use suction cups, very ineffective."
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Does anyone know if using charcoal pumice would be effective in treating a snake bite?
 
Does anyone know if using charcoal pumice would be effective in treating a snake bite?

Unfortunately, no. Doctors have found no effective way (not even tourniquets) of slowing the spread of the venom, except the antivenin.

The amount of antivenin required to combat a bite may be voluminous, and depends on the amount of venom injected and the amount of time between the bite and treatment. Mine was moderate, it took 11 vials (worse bites may take 20 or more) and at $3000 a vial, that adds up quick. Time and panic are your enemies.

The very best first aid is to apply cold compresses and to keep calm. Don't let your heart rate or blood pressure rise, if you can help it. That's a tall order when you've been bitten, I know. Then get to a hospital fast to reduce tissue damage and pain.

Pit vipers 101: the venom is a neurotoxin that serves two purposes: to disable the prey and to pre-digest it. Once it is in your system, it starts attacking and actually dissolving the surrounding tissue. It is spread through capillary action unless it happens to enter a vein or artery (chances are very slim, but that is usually what causes the most serious injuries or death).
 
Love the stories, love living in MI even better, don't like snakes or spiders that can kill me. I'm just weird like that. only thing that could be dangerous here in MI is screwing with momma bear's cubs.
 
Fore Wheeler said:
...only thing that could be dangerous here in MI is screwing with momma bear's cubs.
or a rednecks beer supply
:cheers: :cheers:
 
Yea, I know that they're here, but I've only seen one in the last 35 years and heard of only two snake bites in MI and they both were horses that were bitten.

Let me rephrase, "ABOUT the only thing here in MI..."
 
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