Putting the new axels in this weekend

[Skipper51]

Which sye did you get?
Some driveshafts might be too short

XJ 87/88 2.5 Automatic 27.950 53003912
XJ 89/93 2.5 Automatic 27.970 53005540
XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541
XJ 89/01 4.0 Automatic 30.660 53005542
XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543
XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544
XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545
XJ 87/88 4.0 Automatic Export 53005260 *
XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208

ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341
ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427
ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805
ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790
ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344
ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805
ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090
ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427
ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707
ZJ 96/97 4.0 Automatic 31.250 52098850
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 30.750 w/ 249 & Model 30 52099246
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.500 w/ 249 52099260

Those are collapsed lengths

Thank you for all the info.

I ended up getting a Rugged Ridge SYE so we will see how long of a DS I will need when its installed.

 

[blondejoncherokee]

It's never as simple as we would like it to be huh

 

[Skipper51]

OK, I will be asking again about a DS when the SYE goes in. I don't known of anyone who has 4.5 to 5" of lift that does not need a SYE so I feel OK with this upgrade. Weather it fixes the problem or not.
So when I take my measurement I assume that I take it on the ground with the full weight of the Jeep on the suspension then measure from the differential to the TC pinion. So is the DS fully collapsed, mostly collapsed? What measurement do I use for the DS?

 

[Skipper51]

It's never as simple as we would like it to be huh

:bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl::bawl:

 

[Skipper51]

Just some info if anyone is interested.
Anyway regarding the shafts, you need one which fits your Jeep based on lift height, rear axle, and transmission. Lift it, remove rear shaft, measure between the SYE yoke and the pinion yoke, subtract 1.5" and look below
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Length Model Years Engine Transmission Part Number

33.500" ZJ 96-98 4.0L 42RE w/NP249 52099260
33.000" ZJ 96-98 4.0L 42RE w/NP242 52098707
32.875" ZJ 96 5.2L 44RE w/NP249 52098501
32.870" ZJ 93-95 5.2L 46RH 53008427 *w/o CV
31.250" ZJ 96-98 5.2L 44RE w/NP249 52098379
31.250" ZJ 98 5.9L 46RE w/NP249 52098379
31.250" ZJ 96-97 4.0L 42RE 52098850
30.750" ZJ 96 5.2L 44RE w/NP249 52099246
30.660" XJ 89-01 4.0L AW4 53005542
30.625" ZJ 94-95 5.2L 44RE 52087805 *w/o CV
30.530" ZJ 93 4.0L AW4 52098341
30.500" ZJ 94-95 4.0L 44RE 52098790 *w/o CV
30.000" ZJ 93 4.0L AX-15 52098344/52088090
29.250" XJ 89-01 4.0L AX-15 53005543
28.620" XJ 89-00 4.0L AW4 53005545 *built for Export
28.620" XJ 87-88 4.0L AW4 53005260 *built for Export
27.970" XJ 89-93 2.5L AW4 53005540
27.950" XJ 87-88 2.5L AW4 53003912
27.640" XJ 95-01 2.5TD ? 52098208 *built for Export
27.080" XJ 89-00 4.0L AX-15 53005544 *built for Export
25.310" XJ 89-01 2.5L AX-5 53005541
The A500 was later renamed the 44RE. w/o CV means there is a single-cardan joint at both ends.

 

[831_xj]

That DS info is the collapsed lengths. Take the measurement after you install the SYE. Jeep on the ground. That measurement subtract roughly 1.5" or so and look back to the list.

Example:
Your measurement = 33" - 1.5" would be 31.5"

Then any of these would work
31.250" ZJ 96-98 5.2L 44RE w/NP249 52098379
31.250" ZJ 98 5.9L 46RE w/NP249 52098379
31.250" ZJ 96-97 4.0L 42RE 52098850

Those numbers in bold will be stamped on the DS on a little sticker.

Like many others. I have ~6" lift and use a front XJ DS from an auto.

Hope that helps

 

[Skipper51]

That DS info is the collapsed lengths. Take the measurement after you install the SYE. Jeep on the ground. That measurement subtract roughly 1.5" or so and look back to the list.

Example:
Your measurement = 33" - 1.5" would be 31.5"

Then any of these would work
31.250" ZJ 96-98 5.2L 44RE w/NP249 52098379
31.250" ZJ 98 5.9L 46RE w/NP249 52098379
31.250" ZJ 96-97 4.0L 42RE 52098850

Those numbers in bold will be stamped on the DS on a little sticker.

Like many others. I have ~6" lift and use a front XJ DS from an auto.

Hope that helps

Yes, very much, thank you.:sunshine:

 

[Skipper51]

So how do you get that bolt out of the top of the TC? Man that thing is buried.
Looks like all three of the bearing are shot and will be replaced. Also the tranny mount is toast, the rubber has separated and now it is two pieces.

 

[Skipper51]

Come Take My spare

Thank you Josh but a quick trip, 3 hours, to PnP and I can get one for $40. Then if I break it at the Reno Run can I bowwow yours?

 

[GordoSmasho]

If you haven't already. Put a jack inter the crossmember and drop all four crossmember to frame bolts and lower the drivetrain a bit. That should give you enough room to get a wrench in there

 

[Skipper51]

Thanks Gordo that makes sense.

 

[XJensen]

Thank you Josh but a quick trip, 3 hours, to PnP and I can get one for $40. Then if I break it at the Reno Run can I bowwow yours?

Wont be there. Baby is due on the 16th!

 

[Skipper51]

Wont be there. Baby is due on the 16th!

Do you know if you are having another girl or a boy?????:rattle:

 

[831_xj]

I have lots of ds. Did you get the sye in? Let me know what length

 

[Skipper51]

I have lots of ds. Did you get the sye in? Let me know what length

I should get it in tomorrow and I will know the length then. I'll post it up.

 

[Skipper51]

So I pulled the TC out and found that the other two bearings were a little loose/wobbly so I sent it to the machine shop to have them replaced. They did not do a pukka job. There was a gritty sound when you spun the bearings and they never did clean the TC so all the dirt on the outside got into the grease.
So that took two more days to get it back and I was busy all weekend so no progress was made getting it back together and installed.
I did grind off all the hydro searing brackets that were so skillfully welded and reinforced so I could put in a simple steering stabilizer shock. PITA.
Welded up the passage side UCA bracket and got it installed and ground off some other brackets that were not needed.
So next week install the TC, bolt up the TC skid and get a rear DS.
I have M300 bearings (mean high maintenance) in the D30 and I was told they need to be greased every time it goes wheeling so I got a needle grease injector for the grease gun and just need to find that little indent in the U Joints and push some grease in I guess. Anyone else running these?

 

[blondejoncherokee]

sounds like its coming along! nice skipper!

 

[Skipper51]

Check with Thomas today and he still hasn't put in the TC :bawl:

Told him that if its not in tomorrow I wont have time to get and install a DS and work out any of the kinks that always come up. :explosion

 

[XJensen]

Do you know if you are having another girl or a boy?????:rattle:

Another boy!

 

[XJensen]

Check with Thomas today and he still hasn't put in the TC :bawl:

Told him that if its not in tomorrow I wont have time to get and install a DS and work out any of the kinks that always come up. :explosion

So much for this taking a weekend lol. Glad your almost done.