denverd1
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I vote rear first, both locked is even better
Selectable up front first and leave the rear open--you need to pull more than you need to push.
I have an ECTED in the rear for more than 150,000 miles. It have always worked as it was designed to work. however, I have only used 30 and 32 inch tires on my XJ. My Ected is the second generation. The first generation was a failure. Eaton also made one similar to the ECTED which was taken off the market in short order.
my first post was in response to all that bashing of electric lockers.
I was one of the suckers who bought a first generation ECTED for the D-30. It worked great for about 5000 miles and was an aggressive limited-slip when it was turned off.
Then the clutches, and whatever else, wore out, it was finished. Eaton treated me poorly when attempting to either get it fixed or to buy the repair parts, they abandoned the first-gen buyers and left them hanging.
So, I installed a E-locker and that was almost a 100,000 trouble-free miles ago, it still works great. I make a effort to engage it gently not being too impressed with the size of its locking pins. So far, so good.
This is my logic also, and after my rear lunch box went out to lunch I wasn't concerned about putting it back to open. Has worked great, rocks, snow, ice.
What brand locker is your current one?
never understood this logic. when climbing something, there is much more weight on the rear tires. also the front will usually articulate more than the rear.
Possibly without intention you explained why this works, when climbing there IS more weight / traction on the rear with less likelihood of it loosing traction.
Even with the increased amount of articulation in the front it is more likely to unload and break traction and be required to drive the traction wheel 1 to 1 if / when the opposite wheel is starts sucking wind.
In my experience, when climbing steep, loose uphills, the locking the front axle prevents the front wheels from hopping and breaking traction.
Axles can break when the wheels hop.
Lol...this thread is like asking “what’s the best brand of oil to use”.....
One thing is clear, there no “one right” answer for everyone.
At this point my plan would be to do a selectable up front, LSD in the rear.
To that end, found a OX locker on CL yesterday for a Dana 30 (at least that’s what the sellers says). I tried low-balling him, he just laughed. He says it’s new, never used, but is a few years old. What would you all think is fair for an OX locker with no shifting mechanism (and no warranty)? I would never pay more than half what it’s worth new, and I’d be inclined to halve that again....but that’s the cheap ass in me.
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BigNuge;246675720 To that end said:By "no shifting mechanism" do you mean no cover/shift fork? If it is missing the cover and integrated shift fork I would want to know the reason why and I would want to get a quote for those components from Ox.
OTOH, if you mean that it doesn't come with a shift lever & cable, or electric solenoid & cable, or air actuator, well, that is how they normally sell. You have to select the options that best suit your needs when you order an Ox locker, and they have their associated costs when you choose them.
If the locker is complete as sold (no missing cover) then half the cost of new would be a reasonable price for it. The cost for the shipping mechanism will be the same whether you buy a new locker or this one.
If the locker is incomplete (missing the cover) then I would deduct the cost of the cover (incl. shipping) from the half of the cost of the locker new. And that assumes there is a reasonable answer for the missing components. I would have my BS meter set to maximum sensitivity.
If you do pursue an Ox locker for the front be advised that you probably don't want to cable shift it. There are too many moving components up there and not enough room around them to keep a cable out of harms way. Nimrod tried this battle and wound up switching to an air actuator. I am in the process of building one with an electric actuator (still uses a cable, but doesn't have to make it into the passenger compartment). Time will tell how successful I am with the shorter cable. Air should be a safe bet. Also note that the Ox locker does not require the constant air supply of an ARB. You can run an Ox locker on a paintball CO2 tank.
Oh, and one other detail: If you do want to run air shifted, then find out in advance if that particular Ox locker is so old that it will not accept the air solenoid. Nimrod had to purchase a new cover for his in order to convert from cable to air. Since this is an older unit you could wind up facing the same situation, and then you are right back to the cost of a new cover/shift fork.
Think about mud and snow -- do you want to pull through it or push through it? if you pull you will force the rear to follow the direction, if you push you will make the front "get out of the way" which may or may not be the direction you are trying to go. Pulling is more effective in controlling the vehicle.never understood this logic. when climbing something, there is much more weight on the rear tires. also the front will usually articulate more than the rear.
At this point my plan would be to do a selectable up front, LSD in the rear.
One thing is clear, there no “one right” answer for everyone.
At this point my plan would be to do a selectable up front, LSD in the rear.