DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
I decided to move my comments over here to the Feedback Forum so mods please feel free to delete my posts out of the Vendr Advertisements Forum.
I ordered the Ultimate Sliders Jun 3rd 2012 and finally received them I believe July 7th after waiting for a lengthy back-order. While I had hoped to get them sooner the back-order issue wasn't of major concern to me. I did find getting a hold of JCR to be a bit tedious with them rarely answering their phone or returning emails but I did manage to get a response as to the status of my order and then as soon as they shipped I had an email notification with a tracking number.
They arrived as ordered and with all the hardware, the packaging definitely done in a manner to make losing the hardware impossible. Apparently either somebody forgot my little JCR sticker or they really want to make sure your sticker arrives in great condition as it arrivved in a seperate package a day later. Either way, no complaints and I was really excited to finally get them.
My initial impressions were very good as the quality of the welds, material thickness, and overall look was awesome.
I immediately made plans to install them that Saturday and coerced a buddy to come by and aid me with the process.
I painted all the peices the night before with self etchng primer:
The next day my buddy arrives and we start going through the install instruction on JCR's website and figuring out out game plan. Install process is a bit tedious with a lot of 2 steps forward and 1 step back kind of processes. We struggled a bit getting them to sit up against the Jeep correctly to get all the lines to match and have them centered between the wheel wells. My fenders were heavily trimmed out so that was probably a major part of the issue. In the end they stuck out a little into the rear wheel well and I had to plasma off a section of the front and re-drill 2 new bolt holes for the front fender mounting. No big deal there, these were designed with un-modified rigs in mind.
Then came the problem of the brackets. They hung below the frame rails instead of going to them. I'm not sure if this was an install issue on my part or an issue with the way they were bent up on JCR's part but I had to flex them up a good 1/2" to meet the frame rail so I could start marking and drilling the holes onto my frame stiffeners.
In the end when I finally went to tighten everything down there was a serious gap between the slider and the brackets underneath they bolt to. I managed to get the bolts started and tightened them all down, this sucked the slider up against the brackets and all seemed well until I crawled out from under the rig. The sliders had pulled down and away from the body deforming the rocker itself where the nutserts were.
I resolved the issue myself by loosening all the bolts back up, removing the sliders, beating everything back into place and then welding the top edge of the sliders onto the body prior to bolting them back to the lower brackets.
Here they are installed for the final time
Here is a close up of where I cut them down at the front fender. I counter sunk the two new holes I drilled so I could keep it looking correct
Here is how far out the tubes come away from the body, they're 1.75" OD although I'm not sure of thickness or if they're DOM or HREW
And here is how I welded them to the top edge of the rocker to prevent them pulling away as I tightened up the bolts underneath.
Despite all the issues I managed to geth them installed in 1 day and even got the painted up with Rustoleum's Brush On Hammered Finish Paint. I was in bed by midnight and able to pop the final install pics in the morning prior to going on a wheeling trip.
In the end I was annoyed with the pain in the arse installation but really happy with the end result and look of these. My buddies and I were sure they would be stout and hold up well. I liked that you dodn't lose nearly as much clearance with these as you do with your typical under the rocker sliders.
When I found the advertisement thread on these and a guy was asking about peoples opinions on these after install I posted up and mentioned the problems I'd run into. Daryl at JCR asked those of us who had had issues to email him and he then offered me a gift card as a way of apologizing. I thought that was awesome and asked him to just send me a set of their rain gutter clamps for making your own roof rack as I had them in mind for my HD Offroad roof sliders.
At this point I was more than happy with the Ultimate Sliders and with JCR's customer service. Sure I ran into some issues along the way but with my mediocre fab skills and willingness to weld steel to sheet metal it was nothing I couldn't solve. Then JCR tossed me the gutter mounts and I was like, "Bonus"
I ordered the Ultimate Sliders Jun 3rd 2012 and finally received them I believe July 7th after waiting for a lengthy back-order. While I had hoped to get them sooner the back-order issue wasn't of major concern to me. I did find getting a hold of JCR to be a bit tedious with them rarely answering their phone or returning emails but I did manage to get a response as to the status of my order and then as soon as they shipped I had an email notification with a tracking number.
They arrived as ordered and with all the hardware, the packaging definitely done in a manner to make losing the hardware impossible. Apparently either somebody forgot my little JCR sticker or they really want to make sure your sticker arrives in great condition as it arrivved in a seperate package a day later. Either way, no complaints and I was really excited to finally get them.
My initial impressions were very good as the quality of the welds, material thickness, and overall look was awesome.
I immediately made plans to install them that Saturday and coerced a buddy to come by and aid me with the process.
I painted all the peices the night before with self etchng primer:
The next day my buddy arrives and we start going through the install instruction on JCR's website and figuring out out game plan. Install process is a bit tedious with a lot of 2 steps forward and 1 step back kind of processes. We struggled a bit getting them to sit up against the Jeep correctly to get all the lines to match and have them centered between the wheel wells. My fenders were heavily trimmed out so that was probably a major part of the issue. In the end they stuck out a little into the rear wheel well and I had to plasma off a section of the front and re-drill 2 new bolt holes for the front fender mounting. No big deal there, these were designed with un-modified rigs in mind.
Then came the problem of the brackets. They hung below the frame rails instead of going to them. I'm not sure if this was an install issue on my part or an issue with the way they were bent up on JCR's part but I had to flex them up a good 1/2" to meet the frame rail so I could start marking and drilling the holes onto my frame stiffeners.
In the end when I finally went to tighten everything down there was a serious gap between the slider and the brackets underneath they bolt to. I managed to get the bolts started and tightened them all down, this sucked the slider up against the brackets and all seemed well until I crawled out from under the rig. The sliders had pulled down and away from the body deforming the rocker itself where the nutserts were.
I resolved the issue myself by loosening all the bolts back up, removing the sliders, beating everything back into place and then welding the top edge of the sliders onto the body prior to bolting them back to the lower brackets.
Here they are installed for the final time
Here is a close up of where I cut them down at the front fender. I counter sunk the two new holes I drilled so I could keep it looking correct
Here is how far out the tubes come away from the body, they're 1.75" OD although I'm not sure of thickness or if they're DOM or HREW
And here is how I welded them to the top edge of the rocker to prevent them pulling away as I tightened up the bolts underneath.
Despite all the issues I managed to geth them installed in 1 day and even got the painted up with Rustoleum's Brush On Hammered Finish Paint. I was in bed by midnight and able to pop the final install pics in the morning prior to going on a wheeling trip.
In the end I was annoyed with the pain in the arse installation but really happy with the end result and look of these. My buddies and I were sure they would be stout and hold up well. I liked that you dodn't lose nearly as much clearance with these as you do with your typical under the rocker sliders.
When I found the advertisement thread on these and a guy was asking about peoples opinions on these after install I posted up and mentioned the problems I'd run into. Daryl at JCR asked those of us who had had issues to email him and he then offered me a gift card as a way of apologizing. I thought that was awesome and asked him to just send me a set of their rain gutter clamps for making your own roof rack as I had them in mind for my HD Offroad roof sliders.
At this point I was more than happy with the Ultimate Sliders and with JCR's customer service. Sure I ran into some issues along the way but with my mediocre fab skills and willingness to weld steel to sheet metal it was nothing I couldn't solve. Then JCR tossed me the gutter mounts and I was like, "Bonus"
