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Spring creek Oct 9th
- Thread starter jeepfreak1020
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navyblue123
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- colorado
I think im in for spring creek wanna make it through everything this time.
xjcase
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Summit County
Sunday October 10th - Spring creek run
Meeting place has changed: Dumont exit 234 - the one with the truck scales and truck stop with BK and subway.
In as of now:
xjcase
in4aride + 1
mco1xj +(2wd buggies) + 1 xj (4 total)
Kiefer316
Yella (if bor rig works right) - doubtful
jeepfreak (sorting things out)
navyblue
So that's looking like 9-10 possible rigs so far.
I like the idea of changing the meeting time to 9:15-30 for those who are farther away or would like to drink more on saturday night. :cheers:
who all has a cb?
Meeting place has changed: Dumont exit 234 - the one with the truck scales and truck stop with BK and subway.
In as of now:
xjcase
in4aride + 1
mco1xj +(2wd buggies) + 1 xj (4 total)
Kiefer316
Yella (if bor rig works right) - doubtful
jeepfreak (sorting things out)
navyblue
So that's looking like 9-10 possible rigs so far.
I like the idea of changing the meeting time to 9:15-30 for those who are farther away or would like to drink more on saturday night. :cheers:
who all has a cb?
navyblue123
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- colorado
im out crawled under jeep today and just noticed upper control arm mount is broke off from the axle.
.40CalPatriot
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Westminster, CO
What side?
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
Yeah, I'm gonna need to find a used '97 TCM before the run. I ain't paying $245 for a new one. 
navyblue123
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- colorado
it is passenger side.
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
I'm hoping so. Finally got it to store a code - P1694 and the reading I've done on it says it's likely the TCM. It has all the right symptoms and I've replaced everything else.
My buddy Terry actually has a '97 parts rig and I'm going to go snag the TCM from it in the morning..........
Wish me luck. :thumbup:
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
Ok, so my buddy didn't realize his parts rig was a '98........... still looking for a TCM.
xjcase
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Summit County
Yeup time is for sure 9:15-9:30 at the Downeville exit.
Yella, find a new TCM pronto!!
Yella, find a new TCM pronto!!
Kiefer316
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Crawloardo
Yella I'm goin to the yard tomorrow to search around. Ill keep my eyes peeled. Don't think there are any 97's at CAP. But might be going to upap too.
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
Well, I found a TCM at a bone yard earlier today and............
That didn't fix it.
Fawkin hell.
Short of having used all brand new parts as replacements in diagnosing/repairing these problems........ Every stinking sensor/computer has been swapped out to no avail.
Aparently there must be a few components that are fairly exclusive to the '97 model year.
I had put a '98 ECU in place of the original one.... it made all the gauges unresponsive and it turned the A/C on when the dash switches were off. It was the '98 ECU that ended up with a set and readable code - P1694 and P0700. I replaced the TCU with another '97 TCU and no change. So that got me to thinking that the '98 ECU was not compatible with the '97 TCM. I removed the '98 ECU and replaced the original '97 ECU and the gauges work again and the A/C is back to normal....... but it still runs like shit just like it did before the TCU swap. To determine if there was a CCD Bus issue like the P1694 code says may be present, I even swapped out the gauge cluster with another - from a '98 with no change. So I'm guessing even the gauge clusters are not interchangeable. The CPS was swapped out for another confirmed working used one. No change.
I'm at a total fawkin loss on what to do now. Something is fawking with it's ability to hold an idle unless it's sitting at 1100 RPM. It runs like shit at any RPM below that but usually just dies. It's running rich as hell. I have to press the gas pedal to the floor in order to get it to start. Occasionally the IAC will open for no reason and the RPM's jump to 2000. When this happens, the fuel and temp gauges go flat.
I may just break out the ohm meter now and start the tedious process of testing all the gawdamn sensors just to rule out having replaced one bad TPS with another bad TPS and so on....... which should be pretty much impossible as the ENTIRE throttle body with sensors was removed from a running rig.........
:banghead:
Unless a miracle happens tomorrow......... I'll be at home for Sunday's run.
That didn't fix it.
Fawkin hell.
Short of having used all brand new parts as replacements in diagnosing/repairing these problems........ Every stinking sensor/computer has been swapped out to no avail.
Aparently there must be a few components that are fairly exclusive to the '97 model year.
I had put a '98 ECU in place of the original one.... it made all the gauges unresponsive and it turned the A/C on when the dash switches were off. It was the '98 ECU that ended up with a set and readable code - P1694 and P0700. I replaced the TCU with another '97 TCU and no change. So that got me to thinking that the '98 ECU was not compatible with the '97 TCM. I removed the '98 ECU and replaced the original '97 ECU and the gauges work again and the A/C is back to normal....... but it still runs like shit just like it did before the TCU swap. To determine if there was a CCD Bus issue like the P1694 code says may be present, I even swapped out the gauge cluster with another - from a '98 with no change. So I'm guessing even the gauge clusters are not interchangeable. The CPS was swapped out for another confirmed working used one. No change.
I'm at a total fawkin loss on what to do now. Something is fawking with it's ability to hold an idle unless it's sitting at 1100 RPM. It runs like shit at any RPM below that but usually just dies. It's running rich as hell. I have to press the gas pedal to the floor in order to get it to start. Occasionally the IAC will open for no reason and the RPM's jump to 2000. When this happens, the fuel and temp gauges go flat.
I may just break out the ohm meter now and start the tedious process of testing all the gawdamn sensors just to rule out having replaced one bad TPS with another bad TPS and so on....... which should be pretty much impossible as the ENTIRE throttle body with sensors was removed from a running rig.........
:banghead:
Unless a miracle happens tomorrow......... I'll be at home for Sunday's run.
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hurley842002
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Parker, CO
Man, sorry to hear that. Guess neither of us were meant to go on a run this weekend.
xjcase
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Summit County
rain or snow, I'm runnin' it. All it does it make it a little more interesting and keep the standing around to a minimum right?
I'll be there 9:15 or shortly thereafter, and I'll be on channel 21 all the way up there.
so...
xjcase
in4aride (+ 1?)
mco1xj +(2wd buggies) + 1 xj (4 total) those buggies might not like the rain if they are open
Kiefer316
jeepfreak (sorting things out but looking hopeful)
Happy birthday btw
I'll be there 9:15 or shortly thereafter, and I'll be on channel 21 all the way up there.
so...
xjcase
in4aride (+ 1?)
mco1xj +(2wd buggies) + 1 xj (4 total) those buggies might not like the rain if they are open
Kiefer316
jeepfreak (sorting things out but looking hopeful)
Happy birthday btw
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
You guys have fun! I was really hoping to get Spring Creek ran before the snow flies this year........ Guess it'll have to wait for next Summer.
Fawkin' BOR rig has me stumped. Gonna haul it to the storage lot and get it outta my sight for the winter because all it does is piss me off right now......
Fawkin' BOR rig has me stumped. Gonna haul it to the storage lot and get it outta my sight for the winter because all it does is piss me off right now......
Kiefer316
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Crawloardo
Whoo goin to bed right now! See ya all at the exit in the am
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