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Old November 19th, 2019, 17:08
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hello. I want to lift my xj 4.5 inches. I also what to put on 31 inch tires. what else do I need to change out?

Ring and pinion?
drive shaft?
steering box and pump?

please tell me if it is nessisary to change those things out and if I should change anything else out that I didn't list. I will not be 4 wheeling often it's mostly a daily driver, and just like to be higher up.

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Old November 19th, 2019, 21:41
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Re: help when for lifting

hello ob1214/owen,

I will start by saying based on your questions, you should definitely start reading up some on this forum. youll find a lot of information to help you path your intentions for your jeep.

As for your immediate question, youll likely need and SYE and longer brake lines in addition to your lift. 31" tires will fit just fine and provide you with a lot of usability offroad, for most terrain. A drive shaft may be needed depending on what choices you make in respect to the SYE/drive line angles. Ring and pinion/ steering box are likely far from anything you need to worry about at the moment, it will not hinder you, nor serve as much of an upgrade for your current needs.

depending on what your wheeling/ choice of lift kit, a trac bar and sway bar disconnects are a good addition to this size of a lift.





Guys is there not a sticky of requirements per lift size, Im not sure Ive seen one on FAQ or the like??
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Old November 20th, 2019, 05:48
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help when for lifting

Brake lines are optional. Just loosen the brackets in the front and bend the lines a bit.
SYE is a good idea
Steering gear you will need eventually, but no point in taking out one that's working

Gears depend on your budget, definitely regear if you go to bigger rubber.

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Old November 20th, 2019, 08:13
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Re: help when for lifting

With 31's, the stock gears are adequate, not great, but close enough. The stock steering will be fine.

At 4.5" of lift, longer front/rear soft brake lines, a longer or adjustable track bar, longer front sway bar links, and an SYE with rear driveshaft will be required. If using short control arms, control arm drop brackets are optional, but will greatly improve the pavement ride and the off-road flex.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 09:13
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what would dropping the transfer case do?
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Old November 20th, 2019, 11:08
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Up to about 3" of lift, a t-case drop is a potential solution to driveline issues,. With more than about 3" of lift a t-case drop starts having front driveshaft/front pinion misalignment issues, and puts stress on the motor mounts.

The rear driveshaft angles with taller than about 3" of lift and no SYE strains the case output shaft bearings and can cause the t-case to explode.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 11:57
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Re: help when for lifting

I'm at about 4.0-4.5 inches on my '92 with a 1-inch Tcase drop and no SYE.

OB1214, what year is your Jeep?
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Re: help when for lifting

As the members input shows, there are many approaches and options for you. Different Cherokee models/years/options have some effect. Your personal preferences and tolerances will also be your guide.

1. Choose and install a suspension system
2. Choose and install your tire and possibly wheel combo
3. Determine additional modification priorities (TCase drop, SYE, ring and pinion, speedometer gear change, brake line mod or extension, sway bar disconnects, track bar upgrade, steering upgrade.

Starting with a high quality and complete suspension system is my recommendation. Talk to a few vendors review their parts list and instructions, get a feel for the differences. An $800 lift kit is no compare to a $2500 complete system.

Build some simple end goals, knowledge, and expense guidelines and START WRENCHING!!
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Old November 20th, 2019, 17:54
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Rob Mayercik I have a 2000 xj
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Old November 20th, 2019, 18:00
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bentroia I've been looking at the rough country lift kit which is $1000. seems very nice but according to rough county everything in that kit is all that is necessary. no YSE, pinion and ring, or tie rods. I just don't believe that and I don't want to put in necessary strain on parts. I want this jeep to last a really long long time.
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If you are looking to do it right and have it last a long time you should look at Clayton and Old Man Emu (often abbreviated OME).

A call to DPG Offroad should get you a package that will match your requirements.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 20:40
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thanks so much guys
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Re: help when for lifting

No lift kit is complete, some are more complete than others.

Clayton, OME, and BDS are top of the line products and will last nearly forever. Rubicon Express, Iron Rock Off Road, and a few other are good parts that work well and last. Rough Country and Tough Country are not the first choice of many Cherokee owners.
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Re: help when for lifting

One other good company to check out is Full Traction -https://full-traction.com/model.php?XJ-Cherokee-Suspension-Systems&m=4&b=1&t=1#n . As others have said, you will spend more on good quality parts, but it ends up being worth it in the long run.

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