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RCP Phx
September 17th, 2017, 08:36
Trying to find bushings that fit my 15yr old RE1462 springs. They seem to be a odd size, IIRC Re made a change a couple yrs later. The best I can measure(with them in the car) is 1-9/16"(39.68mm) for the rears. I will call RE tomorrow to see what info they can provide.

ehall
September 17th, 2017, 10:41
stengelbros.com

RB-71 Rubber Bushing 1.5 O.D. 9/16 I.D. 2.5 Length 2.75 Overall Length
RB-121 Rubber Bushing 2 O.D. 9/16 I.D. 2.5 Length 3.125 Overall Length

RCP Phx
September 17th, 2017, 10:47
But mine are not 1.5" !!!

Serious Offroad
September 17th, 2017, 11:12
http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/Suspension-Lift-Kits/Rubicon-Express-Suspension/Components/Repair-Parts/Rubicon-Express/REPLACEMENT-BUSHING-SET-RE1495?cPath=419_420_1190_1476_1478&

RCP Phx
September 17th, 2017, 15:26
http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/Suspension-Lift-Kits/Rubicon-Express-Suspension/Components/Repair-Parts/Rubicon-Express/REPLACEMENT-BUSHING-SET-RE1495?cPath=419_420_1190_1476_1478&

That kit DOES NOT fit !!! I'm thinking that they are a RB-192, which is a 40mm bushing

I don't know of any other bushing made that's close.

Serious Offroad
September 17th, 2017, 15:38
Dunno what to tell ya, RE says they do.
For use with part number RE1462 and RE1463 XJ Leaf Springs

RCP Phx
September 17th, 2017, 16:06
Dunno what to tell ya, RE says they do.

They fit their new springs! Read my OP !

RCP Phx
September 18th, 2017, 09:17
I spoke with RE this morning, they were not much help! They said those springs were made by a Canadian company called "Chamberlain Spring" which has since been bought out/merged with another company! They suggested contacting them!
I was hoping some of the old timers would remember, I know there was some posts re: that subject!

cal
September 18th, 2017, 11:39
Between then and now the company went out of business, and then the brand was purchased by 4 wheel parts. I'd be shocked if any of the old timers were even part of the new company.

The question I would ask, why not replace those ancient springs with something newer? New RE springs are dirt cheap compared to what they used to cost, and for not a lot more you can get some Deavers.

RCP Phx
September 18th, 2017, 12:44
I was referring to the old timers HERE! I love my springs, never sagged more than a 1/2" in 15yrs so why not put some bushings in for 30$!

VAhasnoWAVES
September 18th, 2017, 13:13
because... you cant actually find bushings... for $30.
or rather, the internet cant find them for you.

RE's suggestion was about as good of a recommendation you are going to get from any retailer. who knows, maybe you can find bushings from another application that fit. if not, new RE springs are cheap.

RCP Phx
September 18th, 2017, 14:02
Again, they have to be the 40mm bushings, the next sizes are 1.5" and 1.625" from every bushing manufacturer I've found out there! If I have to replace the springs I will, but I've already dropped 10k into it this year so the pocket books getting low!
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1143361

TekkaMaki
September 18th, 2017, 14:04
Not sure if I qualify as an old timer but I bought my RE 3.5" leafs in 2003 and just last month I replaced the bushings with those Stengel Bros parts that ehall posted. They fit perfect and shipped quick for under $40 total. Had to freeze them and use a press even, nice snug fit.

http://stengelbros.3dcartstores.com/RB-121_p_6804.html
http://stengelbros.3dcartstores.com/RB-71_p_6867.html

cal
September 18th, 2017, 15:29
Again, they have to be the 40mm bushings, the next sizes are 1.5" and 1.625" from every bushing manufacturer I've found out there! If I have to replace the springs I will, but I've already dropped 10k into it this year so the pocket books getting low!
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1143361

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/bushings/rubber-leaf-spring-bushings

RCP Phx
September 18th, 2017, 16:23
I've already been on that page, were you referring to something in particular?

cal
September 18th, 2017, 16:31
That's the best resource for leaf bushings I have found. If none of those dimensions work you may be SOL.

RCP Phx
September 20th, 2017, 07:19
Last night I ordered (2) RB-121 2" bushings and (2) RB-192 40mm bushings for 50$. I'll take my chances although I will add I was taking measurements with my calipers. Although I couldn't get my calipers "on" the bushing, I was doing a "Go/No-go" with all the different known sizes so I am 98% confident! As for a alternate plan, Whiteline (out of Australia) makes poly bushing in "factions" of a MM so I already have options there! My shackles are poly and I've ordered a new set of bushings for them too.

RCP Phx
September 22nd, 2017, 14:30
I received all my bushings today and I'm even more confident in the size. I'll get them installed this weekend and take some pics showing the springs and bushings!

RCP Phx
September 24th, 2017, 17:06
Well the 40mm bushings worked great and the LF 2" bushing had walked about a 1/2" ! I was thinking my rear gears I installed 15yrs ago were crap, but it's so silent now, it's definitely like driving a brand new vehicle!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww220/apayne82/miscelanuos/P1080527_zpsxpcstjdx.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww220/apayne82/miscelanuos/P1080528_zpsccmkixxs.jpg

Anak
September 24th, 2017, 19:50
Glad you found your answer.

burntkat
September 27th, 2017, 08:22
This is REALLY simple to solve...

Grab a micrometer. Mic out the specs of the hole the bushing goes in.

Head over to Energy Suspension's site and check their offerings for something about the same size (a couple thou less would be ideal.

Buy product. Grease product. Install product.

Just that simple.

RCP Phx
September 27th, 2017, 09:10
This is REALLY simple to solve...Grab a micrometer. Mic out the specs of the hole the bushing goes in.
Head over to Energy Suspension's site and check their offerings for something about the same size (a couple thou less would be ideal.
Buy product. Grease product. Install product.Just that simple.

Two major problems with that.............I hate poly and Energy and the other poly bushing suppliers(except Whiteline) don't offer many sizes!

burntkat
September 27th, 2017, 09:35
I think you'd be surprised how many sizes they do offer.

As one example:
http://energysuspension.com/universal-products/link-flange-type-bushings-universal-mounts-isolators.html

I know what you mean about poly. I hated it too, for the squeaking issue and additional NVH issues... until I actually installed them, and did so properly.

LOTS of marine-grade silicon grease. My wife's ZJ now rides like a brand new luxury SUV. Nice and tight.

RCP Phx
September 27th, 2017, 11:06
That's a very minimal selection, the last time I ran into something like this I just poured my own, you can actually control the durometer during the pour that way!

DaJudge
September 27th, 2017, 11:34
Not sure if I qualify as an old timer but I bought my RE 3.5" leafs in 2003 and just last month I replaced the bushings with those Stengel Bros parts that ehall posted. They fit perfect and shipped quick for under $40 total. Had to freeze them and use a press even, nice snug fit.

http://stengelbros.3dcartstores.com/RB-121_p_6804.html
http://stengelbros.3dcartstores.com/RB-71_p_6867.html

I installed these in mine this past weekend. Fit perfectly and what a difference!

burntkat
September 27th, 2017, 12:09
That's a very minimal selection, the last time I ran into something like this I just poured my own, you can actually control the durometer during the pour that way!

Where did you get the materials to pour your own? I may go this route for some custom applications.

N8N_99xj
September 27th, 2017, 12:10
Re: Poly bushings, I have installed two sets.

First set was a set of PST Polygraphite bushings, in my then-girlfriend's Valiant. Installed per instructions, exactly. They worked great, but squeaked.

Then I had to do a suspension rebuild on my own Wabbit GTI. Because I didn't have an arbor press, I just bought new lower control arms and poly (not graphite, could only find plain poly at the time) bushings because you could press those in by hand. For those, I roughed up the poly ever so slightly like I was told to do with the PG ones, and took a tube of graphite powder, and rubbed that stuff in the bushings until the moving surface was the color of a pencil lead. (bushings were red) no grease. I figured it would either work or it wouldn't. You know, I used those lower control arms on two different cars (sold GTI for a Scirocco and moved the suspension over) and probably 50K+ miles and never a peep out of the bushings. True story.

RCP Phx
September 27th, 2017, 13:45
Where did you get the materials to pour your own? I may go this route for some custom applications.

I don't recall, it was local supplier. But it was a product like this.
https://cdn3.volusion.com/tvuka.tjxve/v/vspfiles/photos/15800-2.jpg?1381261018