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is 1/4 over kill for frame stiffeners?
i'l going to be adding a cage and want it to all help the jeep body from flexing. i have have 30ft of 5X3-1/4 angle
i dont want to add to much weight to the jeep.
specs in sig to see about how much i carrying.
TnT Customs makes a 10-bolt belly pan (Crossmember+Trans&T-Case Skid All-In-One) and also offer uni-body stiffeners those combined would really lock things down and might cut weight a bit.
You might check out their design and materials and get some ideas if you are going to fab it up yourself. The stiffeners run about ~$200.00
1/4 is ok. yeah its way overkill but id rather overkill then underkill. i personally dont think 10 guage is thick enough. the stock uniframe on an xj is only 16 guage at best. but thats just my opinion. lots of guys run the 10 guage with no problems. i like 3/16 or 1/4. if you already have the material and knowhow to build the stiffys then go for it. dont waste more money because some guy on naxja told you you need the 10 guage stiffeners. freeriders build was done with 1/4 box tubing cut in half. and i think his is the best build on the board right now.
trying to weld 1/4" to the frame is going to be a PITA! I have the HDO ones and it wanted to burn threw the frame in some places so I had to back off. I couldent even think how hard it will be with 1/4"
you just have to burn on the 1/4 and push the puddle to the frame. it is a pita. i havent done stiifeners on my xj yet but i have burned other things. ive had my shares of making 1/2 holes. im not the best welder out there but i think it can be done with a little patience.
I agree with the fact that welding 1/4 to the 16 gauge unibody is going to be extremeley difficult its going to burn through with that much heat. drilling holes and doing rossette welds will help but I would only do half of the holes at a time a move to the other end for the next one. just make sure its cooled back down before you finish it. just my .2
I agree with the fact that welding 1/4 to the 16 gauge unibody is going to be extremeley difficult its going to burn through with that much heat. drilling holes and doing rossette welds will help but I would only do half of the holes at a time a move to the other end for the next one. just make sure its cooled back down before you finish it. just my .2
ok, DONT weld just one half then move to another area especially with 1/4" thick stiffeners. that will still concentrate too much heat in one area. instead jump around a bit. of course if your rosette holes are fewer and further between there is less jumping, but less tying into the frame rails.
i went with HD Offroads stiffeners- front, mids, and rear. though i have mixed feelings on specific issues of them, i am overall pleased. when i welded them up i jumped all over the place with the welds. thats both the rosette holes and the stitch welds on the edges. this ensured that i did not heat any area of the frame rail up and make the "heat affected zone" larger than it needed to be. (google it if you need to)