Trail Blazer
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What model years, for interior wiring harness, can i use with a 93XJ engine/drivetrain and computer?
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93XJ wiring
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joe_peters
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There is a change in the engine wiring harness 91/92-93, headlamp to dash changed 91/92/93.
I think you could modify a 92-95 harness, all OBDI, to fit with a little work and the wiring diagrams from 91 and the donor year vehicle.
I think you could modify a 92-95 harness, all OBDI, to fit with a little work and the wiring diagrams from 91 and the donor year vehicle.
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
I have the opertunity to get my hands on one from a 91. Wud this work? Will i have to mod some of it?
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
Btw, its going n2 an 86 body
joe_peters
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Ok, lets start from scratch and see what is up.
You have an 86 XJ, you are putting something in it from a 93 XJ, and you want to wire it all up?
Provide some more details.
You have an 86 XJ, you are putting something in it from a 93 XJ, and you want to wire it all up?
Provide some more details.
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
OK Joe, here ya go...
It all started with my old 93XJ. For Xmas one year, my parents bought me a saws-all. Shit hit the fan with my Jeep...
before saw...
2 years after getting saw....
the plan was simple. make the XJ off road only. get a truck and trailer to tow the Jeep all over and have fun. So i started the process of gutting the interior. any wires not needed was cut out and thrown away. Dash ripped out and pitched.
funds didn't play out rite, so the plan didn't work, and i was left with junk in my driveway that run and drove GREAT!
A year passed and i was able to score a drivable 86XJ for $250. It had the V6 in it that had NO power. The DAY i got it legal, was the day the motor blew. :angel: ..... gave me the reason to drop the ENTIRE drive train from the 93XJ into the 86XJ!
86XJ
86XJ
86XJ
This became a fun build....
93XJ
93XJ
We put the ENTIRE drive train into the 86 from the 93. I had to "graph" the front clip of the 93 onto the 86 so the radiator would fit correctly.
It all started with my old 93XJ. For Xmas one year, my parents bought me a saws-all. Shit hit the fan with my Jeep...
before saw...
2 years after getting saw....
the plan was simple. make the XJ off road only. get a truck and trailer to tow the Jeep all over and have fun. So i started the process of gutting the interior. any wires not needed was cut out and thrown away. Dash ripped out and pitched.
funds didn't play out rite, so the plan didn't work, and i was left with junk in my driveway that run and drove GREAT!
A year passed and i was able to score a drivable 86XJ for $250. It had the V6 in it that had NO power. The DAY i got it legal, was the day the motor blew. :angel: ..... gave me the reason to drop the ENTIRE drive train from the 93XJ into the 86XJ!
86XJ
86XJ
86XJ
This became a fun build....
93XJ
93XJ
We put the ENTIRE drive train into the 86 from the 93. I had to "graph" the front clip of the 93 onto the 86 so the radiator would fit correctly.
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
engine, transmission, transfer case first.
then the rear axle
front axle
end look
It just didnt look right, not with 12 inch lift in the rear and 6 inch in the front. I begged the wife and she let me get the RE 8" springs for the front.
I had some visual issues with the front control arms. i KNEW if i hit something, they would fold... so i went out to buy some steel for the next step.
I built a cross-member for a long-arm front suspension.
then the rear axle
front axle
end look
It just didnt look right, not with 12 inch lift in the rear and 6 inch in the front. I begged the wife and she let me get the RE 8" springs for the front.
I had some visual issues with the front control arms. i KNEW if i hit something, they would fold... so i went out to buy some steel for the next step.
I built a cross-member for a long-arm front suspension.
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
Now to buy some tires. I went a set of Cooper Discovery 35's.
Now she looks better!
On to the next step... Rock rails and bumpers...
Rear Bumper....
front bumper.....
Now she looks better!
On to the next step... Rock rails and bumpers...
Rear Bumper....
front bumper.....
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
front bumper....
And now.... the cage...
to be continued....
And now.... the cage...
to be continued....
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
Now for some electrical stuff.
I knew the 86 interior wiring wouldn't match up to the 93 engine harness, but i said eh, lets try it. the 2 half's bolted together. turn the key and all the interior accessories worked, but not the fuel pump or engine stuff. I installed a jumper wire with a switch from the acc to batt on the fuse box. flipped the switch on, fuel pump and computer turned on. The NSS on the transmission went out years ago, so i pushed the button for the starter... after about 20 trys, the engine fired up and stayed running. :clap:
The only item on the instrument cluster that works is the alt gauge. The heater works, the windows work, and the lights all work.
I want the instrument cluster to work. So this is where i need a new wiring harness. I have tried my hardest to get the 86 interior wiring to match up, but i just cant. Too many wires for my brain to handle. Some people say "just re-use the old harness".... well gee, that's a GREAT idea... IF i had it still !!!1
Interior from my 93XJ
I knew the 86 interior wiring wouldn't match up to the 93 engine harness, but i said eh, lets try it. the 2 half's bolted together. turn the key and all the interior accessories worked, but not the fuel pump or engine stuff. I installed a jumper wire with a switch from the acc to batt on the fuse box. flipped the switch on, fuel pump and computer turned on. The NSS on the transmission went out years ago, so i pushed the button for the starter... after about 20 trys, the engine fired up and stayed running. :clap:
The only item on the instrument cluster that works is the alt gauge. The heater works, the windows work, and the lights all work.
I want the instrument cluster to work. So this is where i need a new wiring harness. I have tried my hardest to get the 86 interior wiring to match up, but i just cant. Too many wires for my brain to handle. Some people say "just re-use the old harness".... well gee, that's a GREAT idea... IF i had it still !!!1
Interior from my 93XJ
truck7575
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- georgetown
what about the cage pics?
joe_peters
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- Grants Pass, OryGun
This is cool!
Ok, I think you could mod a 91 harness (OBDI) into the 93 powertrain and at least most of the interior. What are your plans for the instrument panel--use the 93 or 91? Should be doable, others on here have put 97+ OBDII into 92 and earlier Comanche and XJs.
Ok, I think you could mod a 91 harness (OBDI) into the 93 powertrain and at least most of the interior. What are your plans for the instrument panel--use the 93 or 91? Should be doable, others on here have put 97+ OBDII into 92 and earlier Comanche and XJs.
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
funny you should say "Nightmare"..... that's what the wife and I nicknamed her :rof:
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
I plan on using the 93 cluster with it. As for cage picks, i'll post some tomarrow once the sun comes up.
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- Louisville, IL
Are you going to make it to WF? Been a long time. JIM.
Trail Blazer
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Wife and i r adopting our grandson. Atm, we have full custody and r n our 6month waiting period. So WF will b a no-go for 2011 :-( . I have a 20 foot tralor now, no real vehicle to use to tow the jeep. All i have is my 99 ford ranger. Not enough umpf n her to tow a jeep. I hate using my fone to type on here. LoL
truck7575
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Trailblazer and I are going to go Easter Jeep Safari in 2012 if any of you all wanna tag along! Props to you trailblazer for trying to give that kid a good upbringing and adopting him. OK back to the jeep, if you are doing only the interior wiring harness I personally believe that when you hook up the 93 bulkhead to the 91 harness it should be plug and play, what and why would anything have to be modified if you are getting the entire harness from the firewall back if you switch it all out. When I hooked my interior wiring from my 86 XJ wagoneer to the exterior bulkhead from my 88 XJ cherokee they were indeed plug and play and although that is a different model year the two harnesses should be compatible completely. What are you all thinking will be different between the 93 front bulkhead that would affect the 91 fuse box and back?
Trail Blazer
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- Moberly, Missouri
Rick, y post, just call me or text me. LOL u soo funny :-D
