Great time, good people, beautiful scenery what else can you ask for. Thanks for the welcome and I hope we can get together again soon now that we've (me) all met kissed and shock hands. GprJon let me/us know about either Carroll Cyn or we can do Motino Wash, I have coordinates to Motino. It can be a half day run with a small group and it's 30- 45 minutes to Johnson Valley or Big Bear from there if you want to make it a weekend run. OH & thanks to Lucas Oil and for the ticket puller on my gift package. Perfect for keeping extra oil in the Jeep for us all to use when needed. Special WHAT UP to the 2 years apart twins from Temecula, Parker & Spencer, I enjoyed watching the desert lizard try the Gate Keeper while the desert tarantula spider sat patiently by seeing if his bro was going to conquer. Thanks All God Bless!