Now we fire people for defending themselves?

[ZomBrady]

This is complete BS. You're doing your job and are forced to defend yourself in the course of said job, and Walmart fires you?


http://www.wesh.com/news/22190479/detail.html

 

[kastein]

I love how they call the guy a "customer". I thought you were only a customer if you bought something not if you picked it up and walked out of the store with it...

 

[tbburg]

Domino's did that a few times to delivery drivers who fought back against muggers.

 

[Darky]

While it does sound retarded on the surface, the reasoning behind it is to protect the employee and the store. During my few yrs of retail experience, the only people that were allowed to confront a customer and attempt to stop them from stealing something (even your clipboard that you wrote the guy's license plate on) are the Loss Prevention guys. They were trained in how to handle the situation and exactly what they're allowed to do. When I was working as a manager's trainee, I was allowed to block a shoplifter's path as he was attempting to leave but I could not exit the store. Couldn't chase him across the parking lot, couldn't even follow him out of the store.

If you confront a shoplifter, or chase them down, whatever, you're liable to get hurt. The crook may have a knife, a gun, or just beat the hell out of you. The company doesn't want to be responsible for your injuries or the criminal's. If it happens on their property, they are liable. and could be sued by either party.

My question for him is did he say anything to the guy like, "Excuse me sir, mind if I take a look at your receipt? Sorry, but it's standard procedure when the alarm goes off." That may have avoided the situation, or at least given him a leg to stand on when Wal-Mart fired him for getting punched.

 

[JNickel101]

Welcome to the kinder, gentler, liberal-minded, ACLU-defending Socialist world - where the criminal is in the right, and you're in the wrong. How dare you defend yourself or prevent someone from stealing something they're rightfully entitled to have without paying for or earning it!!!!

 

[IslanderOffRoad]

Wal Mart did the guy a favor by not re-hiring him, now he can get a better job.

 

[Boatwrench]

Another reason to hate Unions...they would protect this employee with violent tendencies from being fired. :scared:

 

[tharlanjr]

Yep, Walmarts policy is to let the person go. Any attempt to stop them could lead to harm or a lawsuit and isn't worth it to them.

My Fiance' works in their Pharmacy and she sees people steal all the time and nothing ever gets done. In the Pharmacy they have called the police and gotten people in trouble for false prescriptions and even got a Pharmacist fired/charged for stealing prescriptions.

 

[Boatwrench]

Yep, Walmarts policy is to let the person go. Any attempt to stop them could lead to harm or a lawsuit and isn't worth it to them.

My Fiance' works in their Pharmacy and she sees people steal all the time and nothing ever gets done. In the Pharmacy they have called the police and gotten people in trouble for false prescriptions and even got a Pharmacist fired/charged for stealing prescriptions.

C'mon look at what you are dealing with

 

[Darky]

Welcome to the kinder, gentler, liberal-minded, ACLU-defending Socialist world - where the criminal is in the right, and you're in the wrong. How dare you defend yourself or prevent someone from stealing something they're rightfully entitled to have without paying for or earning it!!!!

Except the thief wasn't in the right, he was taken away in handcuffs while the old guy faced no charges. Wal-Mart just followed their policy of no confrontation and fired the guy. If the old guy had been stabbed, he could've sue Wal-Mart for big bucks. Or if the old guy had hurt the thief, the thief could've sued Wal-Mart for big bucks. I think the guy was kinda dumb for coming back and trying to snatch his clipboard back. So the thief probably stole from Wal-Mart. Now he stole your clipboard. Let him have it. Remember the plate number, write it on your hand, whatever if it's that important. But really though, it's Wal-Mart, are you that loyal to them?

 

[Joshooha]

if you defend yourself correctly, there are no witnesses, or survivors for that matter. So in other words...it never happened.

 

[Coastie]

were allowed to confront a customer and attempt to stop them from stealing something (even your clipboard that you wrote the guy's license plate on) are the Loss Prevention guys.

He didn't confront the shoplifter, the shoplifter confronted him. Why in this country do you have to be on deaths door step to defend yourself or even stand up for yourself?

This punk kid got what he deserved, Wal-mart needs to grow a pair and the old man should be given a raise.

Ugh.

 

[Darky]

He didn't confront the shoplifter, the shoplifter confronted him. Why in this country do you have to be on deaths door step to defend yourself or even stand up for yourself?

This punk kid got what he deserved, Wal-mart needs to grow a pair and the old man should be given a raise.

Ugh.

He confronted the thief when he ran back in and tried to take his clipboard back. Just let the clipboard go.

 

[Coastie]

He confronted the thief when he ran back in and tried to take his clipboard back. Just let the clipboard go.

I am sorry I could never see it that way, to me the thief started the whole thing and got what was naturally coming to him.

 

[cracked-butt]

if you defend yourself correctly, there are no witnesses, or survivors for that matter. So in other words...it never happened.

:worship:

spoken like a true military man!
no witnesses, no "body" , what "crime"? :dunno:

 

[Darky]

If the old guy had been stabbed, he could've sue Wal-Mart for big bucks. Or if the old guy had hurt the thief, the thief could've sued Wal-Mart for big bucks.

Yep, Walmarts policy is to let the person go. Any attempt to stop them could lead to harm or a lawsuit and isn't worth it to them.

My Fiance' works in their Pharmacy and she sees people steal all the time and nothing ever gets done. In the Pharmacy they have called the police and gotten people in trouble for false prescriptions and even got a Pharmacist fired/charged for stealing prescriptions.

While it does sound retarded on the surface, the reasoning behind it is to protect the employee and the store.

The crook may have a knife, a gun, or just beat the hell out of you. The company doesn't want to be responsible for your injuries or the criminal's. If it happens on their property, they are liable. and could be sued by either party.

My question for him is did he say anything to the guy like, "Excuse me sir, mind if I take a look at your receipt? Sorry, but it's standard procedure when the alarm goes off." That may have avoided the situation, or at least given him a leg to stand on when Wal-Mart fired him for getting punched.

Anytime I've had an alarm go off, they always stop and check my receipt against the contents of my bag, demagnetize whatever in the bag tripped the alarm then send me on my way.
Read the quotes above, I have no problem with stopping thieves, but you gotta the line somewhere. If he's shown himself to be overly aggressive, maybe by running at you and snatching your clipboard out of your hands, ask yourself if your clipboard is worth risking bodily harm.

 

[Coastie]

I would think that stopping a little injustice in this world would worth a little bodly harm but that's just me. By taking a punch to the face this man stopped this kid from doing other harm. If this kid is willing to steal from Wal-mart who's to say he isn't willing to snatch your elderly moms purse?

I for one and glad this man took a stand and should be thanked for it.

 

[Boatwrench]

Anytime I've had an alarm go off, they always stop and check my receipt against the contents of my bag, demagnetize whatever in the bag tripped the alarm then send me on my way.
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I just keep walking when the alarms go off. It's like the COSTCO folks wanting to see my receipt I just walk by.

 

[Audiophile]

You guys don't read so good. He took a swing at a customer plain and simple. It wasn't in self defense, he took a swing at the customer after the customer took a swing at him. If he was blocking the customer's swing, I might understand. He deserved to be fired.

 

[Darky]

I would think that stopping a little injustice in this world would worth a little bodly harm but that's just me. By taking a punch to the face this man stopped this kid from doing other harm. If this kid is willing to steal from Wal-mart who's to say he isn't willing to snatch your elderly moms purse?

I for one and glad this man took a stand and should be thanked for it.

Coastie, do you read what your responding to. I have no problem with stopping criminals. I am glad he was brought to justice. However, the guy was stupid for rushing the thief over a clipboard. This time it was a punch in the face. It very well could've been a knife to the gut.