We found some new trails that were pretty nasty yesterday and b/c my xj is still waiting its sye and d/s i road w/ my buddy in his TJ. The other tj we were w/ had 33" BFG mt's and my buddies that i was in had 31" BFG a/t's. We hit a mud/water pit half way through, keeping drivers side tires on the mud and passenger side was completely under water/mud(wasnt wide enough) on the way back i guess we hit our own rut and ended up getting stuck. 2 main questions....his tj is a five speed and he was afraid to put the clutch in while we were stuck b/c he heard it was bad. Whats the details w/ this? We werent even up to the differentials in water or mud when he was stuck. My second question is i was kinda dissapointed at the performance of the 4wd...while he was trying to get out i was watching what tires were spinning and it seemed like one rear and one front were spinning the entire time and the other two were kinda just jerking foward on and off...no where near enough to get us out...ended up getting winched out. So in a nut shell what tires have drive to them in 4h..and 4lo and when? Thanks for any info.