:banghead: yeah sorry, I typed that and didn't realize what I was typing or my tablet corrected it. This jeep will be about 60% road, 40% trail. I'm doin a 5.3 l33/4l60e swap on it. It's also getting an 8.8 rear, 44 front. 33's. I want as much stability as possible. Not planning on taking this thing around the Moab rim anytime soon, I don't have it caged, and I don't have time nor the experience to cage it. Same goes for building my own 3 or 4 link. I'm a very mechanical adept person. And I'm a good welder and not bad with metal fab. But I don't have the knowledge or confidence to go slamming tabs on axles, building subframe mounts, and making my own arms when I know what the results could be of poor geometry...my wife and kids gotta ride in this thing at 65 on the freeway. And I don't like the way radius arm setups act on hills and I've heard some other crazy ass stories about em.