Classic cars crushed!!

[guzzirider]

see XJ replacement line

 

[NWPhotog]

Cleaned out the XJ tonight for it's trip to Clunker Heaven tomorrow. Wife is happy she gets a new car, I'm happy I get my car back from her and everyone wins because another XJ is off the road. :gag:

Isn't socialism grand?

Lol. I did the same. Sad to see it go but I am sure others will make good use of the parts. There is a time for anything and this bone stock xj was close to the end any way.

 

[Darky]

see XJ replacement line

This actually was here first, you ought to put a tag to see this one in your thread.

 

[fscrig75]

Hope those of you considering doing this already have a signed contract from the dealership. I guess the EPA changed the MPG ratings for a lot of cars over the weekend.

CNN Money story LINK

 

[MisterFubar]

Hope those of you considering doing this already have a signed contract from the dealership. I guess the EPA changed the MPG ratings for a lot of cars over the weekend.

CNN Money story LINK

EPA still says that the mileage on the XJ sucks, so I'm covered.

 

[rsquirt83]

I didn't want to believe it. I work at a Jeep dealership. Just today alone we've had 2 Cherokees and a Comanche come in. :rattle:
I personally own 3 Jeeps and it's depressing to see this happen just to know they're going straight to the scrapper.

 

[muduck18]

It like people are taking their horses in and trading them in for vespa's on the agreement that they will be made into glue when they are finished with them. but little do these lemmings know, the horse would have out lasted the vespa by about 10 to 15 years, and still would have made great glue after it was done.


Hasta

 

[muduck18]

Yes thats right, I called everyone that takes thier car in for cash for clunkers a LEMMING!

BITE ME.

 

[MisterFubar]

Yes thats right, I called everyone that takes thier car in for cash for clunkers a LEMMING!

BITE ME.

If I'm a lemming for taking 4500 bucks of already spent government money for something I owned that wasn't worth that much then put me in line and point us towards the cliff. :laugh:

I can't think of a more fitting death for my XJ then being turned into glue before it's time.

 

[Darky]

The more it's used the more money will be spent.

 

[NWPhotog]

If I'm a lemming for taking 4500 bucks of already spent government money for something I owned that wasn't worth that much then put me in line and point us towards the cliff. :laugh:

I can't think of a more fitting death for my XJ then being turned into glue before it's time.

Totally agree. There are just some zealots that can't accept their decision is wrong for many others. Oh well, they feel better with their heads stuck in the ground! :roll:

 

[ECKSJAY]

Totally agree. There are just some zealots that can't accept their decision is wrong for many others. Oh well, they feel better with their heads stuck in the ground! :roll:

So is it hard to breathe under there?

 

[Darky]

It's not much of a decision for me...I've got an XJ that runs fine, is paid off, and does things that no new car can (at least not any I can afford or that are eligible for the program). Not to mention the reasoning stated above your post. This is not a wise expenditure of my tax dollars. This will not help the environment (as the program's stated goal), it's not that beneficial to the car buying public (yeah sure, you save $4500 up front, but now you're locked into a payment for x amount of months, and are taking a much larger hit in depreciation in the vehicle's first year), so who does it help? Government in the form of increased sales tax revenue to the state/local governments, increased vehicle reg fees to state, increased sales of GM and Chrysler vehicles (both with a majority stake owned by the feds). Insurance companies in the form of increased premiums for new cars, and of course, obviously the car companies which is god for the feds since they pretty much own GM and a large chunk of Chrysler, not to mention the money "donated" by lobbyists to support various politicians' campaigns. So basically, the premise behind the program - save the environment - is a bald-faced lie as any improvement in gas mileage is offset by the pollution let out by the production of the car, the lack of rebuildable cores for the replacement of our older vehicles' worn, higher polluting engines, and the pollution created by melting the old engines down to be recycled. Instead of helping people buy more new cars, maybe the auto corps ought to be scaling back production and size to remain profitable and in line with current needs.

 

[NWPhotog]

So is it hard to breathe under there?

You'd have to tell those of us with our head above aground! :rof:

 

[ECKSJAY]

You'd have to tell those os us with our head above aground! :rof:

OH SNAP YOU GOT ME.

 

[NWPhotog]

It's not much of a decision for me...I've got an XJ that runs fine, is paid off, and does things that no new car can (at least not any I can afford or that are eligible for the program). Not to mention the reasoning stated above your post. This is not a wise expenditure of my tax dollars. This will not help the environment (as the program's stated goal), it's not that beneficial to the car buying public (yeah sure, you save $4500 up front, but now you're locked into a payment for x amount of months, and are taking a much larger hit in depreciation in the vehicle's first year), so who does it help? Government in the form of increased sales tax revenue to the state/local governments, increased vehicle reg fees to state, increased sales of GM and Chrysler vehicles (both with a majority stake owned by the feds). Insurance companies in the form of increased premiums for new cars, and of course, obviously the car companies which is god for the feds since they pretty much own GM and a large chunk of Chrysler, not to mention the money "donated" by lobbyists to support various politicians' campaigns. So basically, the premise behind the program - save the environment - is a bald-faced lie as any improvement in gas mileage is offset by the pollution let out by the production of the car, the lack of rebuildable cores for the replacement of our older vehicles' worn, higher polluting engines, and the pollution created by melting the old engines down to be recycled. Instead of helping people buy more new cars, maybe the auto corps ought to be scaling back production and size to remain profitable and in line with current needs.

It isn't a good decision for you. As far as a program it is certainly debatable although I tend to agree. For many it is a windfall that they would be stupid to ignore even if that bothers you. As to politicians lying and spinning things that certainly isn't news to most of us.

 

[MisterFubar]

It's not much of a decision for me...I've got an XJ that runs fine, is paid off, and does things that no new car can (at least not any I can afford or that are eligible for the program). Not to mention the reasoning stated above your post. This is not a wise expenditure of my tax dollars. This will not help the environment (as the program's stated goal), it's not that beneficial to the car buying public (yeah sure, you save $4500 up front, but now you're locked into a payment for x amount of months, and are taking a much larger hit in depreciation in the vehicle's first year), so who does it help? Government in the form of increased sales tax revenue to the state/local governments, increased vehicle reg fees to state, increased sales of GM and Chrysler vehicles (both with a majority stake owned by the feds). Insurance companies in the form of increased premiums for new cars, and of course, obviously the car companies which is god for the feds since they pretty much own GM and a large chunk of Chrysler, not to mention the money "donated" by lobbyists to support various politicians' campaigns. So basically, the premise behind the program - save the environment - is a bald-faced lie as any improvement in gas mileage is offset by the pollution let out by the production of the car, the lack of rebuildable cores for the replacement of our older vehicles' worn, higher polluting engines, and the pollution created by melting the old engines down to be recycled. Instead of helping people buy more new cars, maybe the auto corps ought to be scaling back production and size to remain profitable and in line with current needs.

I agree with most of this, it is a stupid program and a complete waste of future taxpayers money... Can't really say it's our tax money with the debt hole this country is digging. The program doesn't benefit anyone who needs it, doesn't do anything for the environment, and in a year we'll probably have a bailout for all the people getting into car payments that they can't afford.

I did it because it benefitted ME, I'll work a little bit harder the next couple months to save the taxpayers some money to make up for it. I had a POS XJ that gave me nothing but trouble since the day I bought it and an opportunity to get rid of it for a little bit more money then I had in it. I probably could have sold it for 2500-3000 if I really wanted to, but why would I deal with that hassle when I could drop it off at a dealership, toss them the keys and get 4500 bucks for it.

Oh and for the record I paid cash for the new car and with the 4500 off the price I had already negotiated I paid less for the brand new car then I would have for a slightly used one with 20k miles on. I don't like buying new cars, I think it's a waste of money and I usually let someone else eat the first couple years of depreciation but in this situation it made more sense for me to buy new. Maybe my new car will help keep some American suppliers and Canadian assemblers employed for a few more hours.

 

[AL BUNDY]

Well, at least when all these people trade in their Jeeps for econoboxes they will have no reason to be on here anymore. They can move to NAEBA. I will stick with my old Jeep that can take me anywhere I want to go in any weather and won't crumble in a 5mph fender bender.

 

[muduck18]

If I'm a lemming for taking 4500 bucks of already spent government money for something I owned that wasn't worth that much then put me in line and point us towards the cliff. :laugh:

I can't think of a more fitting death for my XJ then being turned into glue before it's time.

Totally agree. There are just some zealots that can't accept their decision is wrong for many others. Oh well, they feel better with their heads stuck in the ground! :roll:

head in the ground?
At least its not up my A$$ like others (say people who trade their soul for $4500)
You consider us zealots, because we want what is good and right for the country.
I consider you foolish, because you care only what looks good for you now.

Cash for clunkers should have never been conceived, much less acted on.

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money” - Alexis de Tocqueville

 

[Darky]

I agree with most of this, it is a stupid program and a complete waste of future taxpayers money... Can't really say it's our tax money with the debt hole this country is digging. The program doesn't benefit anyone who needs it, doesn't do anything for the environment, and in a year we'll probably have a bailout for all the people getting into car payments that they can't afford.

I did it because it benefitted ME, I'll work a little bit harder the next couple months to save the taxpayers some money to make up for it. I had a POS XJ that gave me nothing but trouble since the day I bought it and an opportunity to get rid of it for a little bit more money then I had in it. I probably could have sold it for 2500-3000 if I really wanted to, but why would I deal with that hassle when I could drop it off at a dealership, toss them the keys and get 4500 bucks for it.

Oh and for the record I paid cash for the new car and with the 4500 off the price I had already negotiated I paid less for the brand new car then I would have for a slightly used one with 20k miles on. I don't like buying new cars, I think it's a waste of money and I usually let someone else eat the first couple years of depreciation but in this situation it made more sense for me to buy new. Maybe my new car will help keep some American suppliers and Canadian assemblers employed for a few more hours.

Hey, ay least your logic and reasoning makes sense, I still don't agree necessarily with the decision you landed at, but you're at leats putting actual thought into it and did things the smart way...ie: not taking on 3-6 yrs of payments and interest just to get ahold of $4500...