Safari Ary
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- Virginia Beach, VA
Does this company have a website where I could see pictures of their cages? Or does anyone have pics? Thanks
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A couple cage questions
- Thread starter AzRick
- Start date
- Location
- East of Cincinnati
Um, yeah.
Googled d&c extreme, and got www.dandcextreme.com
Go figger...
Unforunately, they don't show much of the XJ cage...
Robert
Googled d&c extreme, and got www.dandcextreme.com
Go figger...
Unforunately, they don't show much of the XJ cage...
Robert
Beezil said:
Does this look like .120 wall??
I may be a bonehead, but I ain't winning the lifetime achievement award......
Now if I just tack the cage together, and go to Moab for the Fall Fling 2004, then you can give me the lifetime award. And I won't blame it on my mom.
Rick
- Location
- East of Cincinnati
I_1BADXJ_I said:
Emailed them for pics at 6:30
Got 13 pics by 7:15
Looks nice...
Robert
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
Ok, I just dug out the dial micrometer and the loose pieces of tube Damien sold me measure a fairly consistent .112 -.115 - same with the spreader pieces he cut from some stock previous to that. So I guess I can assume my tubing is just fine??? Beez feel free to chime in here.....
I guess I'm to understand that when the steel manufacturer says the steel tube has a .120 wall that means it won't exceed that size? Seems to me none of us are getting what we think we are...... from the steel manufacturers that is.
Rick, I hope you're measuring with something better than that tape measure to make your claim. :twak: Using my tape measure, mine measures similar to yours in places.....
Do all of us a favor an borrow a micrometer and show us a more precise measurement. :guitar:
I guess I'm to understand that when the steel manufacturer says the steel tube has a .120 wall that means it won't exceed that size? Seems to me none of us are getting what we think we are...... from the steel manufacturers that is.
Rick, I hope you're measuring with something better than that tape measure to make your claim. :twak: Using my tape measure, mine measures similar to yours in places.....
Do all of us a favor an borrow a micrometer and show us a more precise measurement. :guitar:
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YELLAHEEP said:
Alright, I borrowed a caliper measuring thing from a friend. It's a "manual" one. No fancy LCD readout or anything, and I'm not totally sure how to read it past hundreths, but I know my measurements are real close.
I found two pieces, one "a" pillar piece and one spreader bar that were OK.
Both were between .11-.12 on both ends.
All the rest of them measured anywhere from .09-.11.
Rick
rj454
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Englewood, Colorado
I_1BADXJ_I said:
hey, share 'em with the rest of us....
JEONLYEP
NAXJA Forum User
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- N 37° 48.485 W 100° 20.903
FarmerMatt said:
Didn't we already do that? Or was that just western Kansas?
fatwreck
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- ottawa, il
rj454 said:
Here are some pics:
snoopy
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado Springs
Actually he didn't. When I found this thread I was in the middle of replying when Rick called me. I told him that I'd send him a new cage and arrange a pickup for the messed up one when he stated that he'd really like to go with DOM. So I made Rick the offer and he didn't waist any time agreeing.FarmerMatt said:
I find it disturbing that the general assumption is that a vendor will weasle out of their obligations ~ but I don't. I'm a small 1.5 man shop in the middle of Colorado Springs. I don't pretend to do everything ~ but what I do, I do to the best of my ability. So if there is a problem that I'm responsible for, I fix it. No questions, no excuses.
Troy (YELLAHEEP), is a good example of this. He had to wait an additional day or two for his cage when I found that the rear spreaders were 1/4 to 1/2" off. Most people wouldn't notice it ~ but I did. And even though the cage was 100% welded in and finished. I borrowed Led's sawzall and cut it out to put in another. Ya, I was bummed to waist the cage and all that time ~ but it was the right thing to do. So it was done.
Ya, I know ~ I'm a total slacker. Sorry. I'll upload that page as soon as I can.I_1BADXJ_I said:
Speaking of which ~ anyone/everyone who has a D and C cage ~ SEND ME PICTURES and I'll include them on the site.
Thanks ~
D
- Location
- Indiana-Missouri
I KNEW you measured with a tape measure!
what kind of barkeatin' bonehead measures wall thickness with a tape measure?
good gawd.
what kind of barkeatin' bonehead measures wall thickness with a tape measure?
good gawd.
PlainWhiteXJ
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Northern New Mexico
Actual tolerances on tubing per Ryerson Steel (http://www.ryersontull.com/stocklist/RedbookServlet?COM=GetLevel&ID=1931), for 1.875 to 3.375 OD tube, .120 wall, is +-.003" for DOM and +.005" -.008" for electric welded.
Beezil said:
Hey Bonehead....BITE WOOD!
I guess you didn't take the time to read the WHOLE thread. If you did, you would have seen that I measured the tube again, without a tape measure.
I realize it's difficult for you to comprehend such a high-tech device as a tape measure, but believe me, they actually are accurate if you know how to count.
Rick
BTW, what the hell is a barkeater?
kirby
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- South Weber
Does this kit tie into the frame rails?
OT
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Jensen, UT
Stay on topic please.kirby said:
YELLAHEEP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Littleton, Colorado
kirby said:
Kirby,
Yes - and - no.....
The basic roll cage kit mounts to 6 locations to the floor of the XJ. The pre-drilled front plates are designed to be mounted as far out toward the kick-panels as possible so that leg room is as unhindered as possible. These plates end up on the floor board just outside of the uni-frame rails. Damian (the maker of the cages) suggests building supports from the frame rails to the underside of the floor and sandwiching the mounting plate to the support. This is something that he doesn't provide with the kit.
The hoop behind the front seats mounts to the floor right on top of the uni-frame rails. The mounting plates have pre-drilled holes so that a person can bolt these down - or you can weld the plate to the floor. I'm thinking of making these plates a bit wider and using some square-ended "U" bolts going up around the frame rail into the mounting plates to bolt it down, then weld the plate to the floor.
The rear mounting plates also sit on top of the rear uni-frame rails. Bolting this down is a bit tricky because they end up right above the rear shackle frame brackets. To get bolts to work, you'd have to drop the rear spring/shackle to drill holes and attach bolts.
So, in more simple terms - If you get this cage and simply weld it down to the floor, all it's secured to is the floor. By adding bolts, you're gaining some attachment strength - but it depends upon what you've bolted it to.
Please understand that D&C's XJ roll cage kit is just a basic cage and certainly isn't the highest protection cage for severe roll overs. This isn't a "Jeep Speed" kind of cage. D&C's cage kit provides all the difficult pieces that are bent and fitted in such a fashion as to provide a decent starter cage with the least amount of interior space intrusion. Damian has done a great job in designing these cages for the XJ's but he certainly can't be expected to sell a mail-order cage that fits everyone's needs. Adding your own triangulation tubing and joint trusses will strengthen this cage to suit your individual needs.
As with buying anything using on-line or mail order, contact the manufacturer with your specific questions. Damian is a heck of a guy and will certainly do everything he can to assist you.
- Location
- Colorado Springs
talk about your long winded answers jeesh :cheers:
