Zuul99
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- Scottsdale, AZ
$100 for my Delta H4 55w conversion kit with halogen bulbs
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What did you pay for your headlight upgrade?
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N8N_99xj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Berwyn Heights, MD
I believe that those are "micro" relays as opposed to the standard Bosch ice cube style which are considered "mini" relays. I swear I started a thread telling you how to order replacement relays from the parts store, but I can't find it anywhere.
- Location
- Minneapolis, MN
I brought home a whole pocket full of Honda relays from the junkyard, and they plugged into both my putco_e-autoworks_LMC H-4 wire harneses. Mini, micro, whatever, the Honda ones fit.
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NOTNSUV
You Guys ROCK!
- Location
- Spring Creek, NV
Just an FYI. Installed my Cibie 'E-code' H4 upgrade from Daniel Stern today ($380 w/harness and shipping.. yeah, I know $$$). Top quality stuff.
The FYI is that when I finished the installation (4 hours on my own) the high beams would not shut off when I hit the dimmer so I ended up with both Hi/Lo lit when on Lo. Puzzler.
Solution: I have an aftermarket winch bumper and the factory fog lights are disconnected but the wiring, switch and relay are all still in place. After a lot of monkeying around I called Daniel. After pulling the factory Fog Light Relay out of the box under the hood, all was well and working as they should. Daniel says this is common on Subaru but that he'd never seen it on a Jeep.
Also, sometimes aftermarket relays for driving lights might cause the same issue, he says. Then it's a matter of wiring the driving light relay to the new wiring harness Hi Beam wire instead of the factory Hi Beam wire. Since relays require such a small voltage to activate, enough can bleed and activate the Hi Beam relay when not wanted. Same for the fog lights if you want to keep or add them. Just wire the relay that goes to the Lo Beam wire away from the factory wire onto the new harness Lo Beam wire.
Great response from Daniel when I needed him. That's very important to me. http://www.danielsternlighting.com
Also, the aiming procedure from his website is awesome. Sounds complicated when I read it but is really simple and fun and it's good to know my lights are properly aligned. Now I have permanent marks on the inside of my shop door so I can check and realign if/when needed. Now I have to take it for a spin to see if I can see. I might have gotten away with just a harness and relays but figured I'd go full-on from the git-go. The old lights were not good as you well know.
Thought this might save someone time if they run into the same issue.
The FYI is that when I finished the installation (4 hours on my own) the high beams would not shut off when I hit the dimmer so I ended up with both Hi/Lo lit when on Lo. Puzzler.
Solution: I have an aftermarket winch bumper and the factory fog lights are disconnected but the wiring, switch and relay are all still in place. After a lot of monkeying around I called Daniel. After pulling the factory Fog Light Relay out of the box under the hood, all was well and working as they should. Daniel says this is common on Subaru but that he'd never seen it on a Jeep.
Also, sometimes aftermarket relays for driving lights might cause the same issue, he says. Then it's a matter of wiring the driving light relay to the new wiring harness Hi Beam wire instead of the factory Hi Beam wire. Since relays require such a small voltage to activate, enough can bleed and activate the Hi Beam relay when not wanted. Same for the fog lights if you want to keep or add them. Just wire the relay that goes to the Lo Beam wire away from the factory wire onto the new harness Lo Beam wire.
Great response from Daniel when I needed him. That's very important to me. http://www.danielsternlighting.com
Also, the aiming procedure from his website is awesome. Sounds complicated when I read it but is really simple and fun and it's good to know my lights are properly aligned. Now I have permanent marks on the inside of my shop door so I can check and realign if/when needed. Now I have to take it for a spin to see if I can see. I might have gotten away with just a harness and relays but figured I'd go full-on from the git-go. The old lights were not good as you well know.
Thought this might save someone time if they run into the same issue.
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N8N_99xj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Berwyn Heights, MD
This is a known issue on jeeps, DS must just not have know that. Rather than using the high beam wire I put a relay behind the driver's side headlight when I added fogs to switch the ground leg of the fog relay to actual ground. I used a SPDT relay so if I add driving lights in the future I can use that same relay as a control for the driving light relay as well so they only work with switch on & high beam on. This will also future proof my install if I ever change to LED headlights.
Trusty Wrench
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- West Richland, WA
Has anyone tried these?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_8002.htm
$449 from Quadratec.
Gawd, I cant wait until the price on LED's gets reasonable...
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_8002.htm
$449 from Quadratec.
Gawd, I cant wait until the price on LED's gets reasonable...
Tony_SS
NAXJA Supporting Vendor
- Location
- Washington MO
It's not your fog lights causing that, its happens on some of our rigs from that goofy delay module under the dash. Just unplug it.
Also if you want to get the fogs hooked up with your new harness, look for the thread I posted. The red fog light relay wire, on the driver side, needs to tap into the high beam on your new harness.
Everything will work correctly if you do those 2 things.
BADDRAPP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Yucca Valley
There is a led bulb from www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/. It puts out 3000 lumen per bulb. Guys are installing them in their adventure bikes. The headlight bulb works both Hi/Low and Fits H4,H6 and H7 bases. I am awaiting feed back from the bike guys. They are not priced too bad at 59.95 each.
NOTNSUV
You Guys ROCK!
- Location
- Spring Creek, NV
Thanks, but it was the fog light relay. I do not have (or want) fog lights but the factory fog light relay was still in place. As I said in my original post, once removed everything is functioning as it should with the new harness, including the aftermarket Vision-X driving lights.
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Tony_SS
NAXJA Supporting Vendor
- Location
- Washington MO
Interesting.. yours didn't come factory with fog lights, but there is a relay for them?
NOTNSUV
You Guys ROCK!
- Location
- Spring Creek, NV
It had fog lights. I removed them when I installed the winch bumper.
GregGA
87 Laredo Galloping Ghost
- Location
- Woodstock GA
About $250 through Rallylights.com. Hella H4's and their wiring harness is made in house with wire from PA, no less. A work of art. Nice guys, knowledgeable. Hella relays and bulbs. Best safety addition I have made. No problem in 3 years.
XjWoofy801
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Salt lake city,Utah
hey tim do you know the part number for the AutoPal H4 housings
- Location
- Aurora, Colorado
Has anyone tried these?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_8002.htm
$449 from Quadratec.
Gawd, I cant wait until the price on LED's gets reasonable...
$179 from Drivetrain America.
http://www.drivetrainamerica.com/p-...lar-led-5-x-7-truck-jeep-xj-yj-headlight.aspx
I don't have experience with them, and no I haven't purchased from that website. A member on www.garagejournal.com purchased them and installed them on his van.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235128
They look promising? I might consider these only if they are legal and won't throw light all over the frikken' place. I'm not going to be that guy.
Mtb Jak
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Seattle WA
This is something I have always wanted to do since i swapped this front clip, the problem is what the hell kinda headlights work in this set up?
FlyNNN
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
That's $179/piece + shipping. I'm sure you'll need two. I mentioned back in post #18 that I am running these. I bought them back a few years ago. The are legal and they work.
- Location
- Aurora, Colorado
Still $100 cheaper than Quadratec, which is usually outrageously overpriced anyway.
atriot:Also, I clicked on the YouTube link in your post and it's dead. :dunno:
Edit - Just a bad link.
http://youtu.be/ZwUrSM9T2Tg
FlyNNN
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
Still $100 cheaper than Quadratec, which is usually outrageously overpriced anyway.
$179 is a good price. Thanks for the notification on the link. YouTube is funny that way with its links.
http://youtu.be/ZwUrSM9T2Tg
yossarian19
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Grass Valley, CA
It took a few months to hit $179 / apiece. It's been at $179 for a few. I'm hoping in a few more it comes down further - but I've really got no complaints with H4s and a harness.
I'm in the process of upgrading. Not going LED but I am looking to redo the harness and relays and add some stronger H4 bulbs in there. I'm pretty sure the DAPO threw a h4 in there but used the stock harness, which I think is the reason I have no high beams:banghead:I swear that guy had the WORST mechanic in the world. I've had to redo everything. literally everything.
So far I'm looking at $49 for the harness and relays and about $50 for some higher output bulbs( since I already have the housings) Sourced from danielsternlighting.com
Hey Neighbor! :wave1: If you figure it out and need some help, let me know. I'm learning, but sometimes you just need another set of knuckles to bust.
So far I'm looking at $49 for the harness and relays and about $50 for some higher output bulbs( since I already have the housings) Sourced from danielsternlighting.com
Hey Neighbor! :wave1: If you figure it out and need some help, let me know. I'm learning, but sometimes you just need another set of knuckles to bust.