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Ghost
March 21st, 2008, 07:45
Anyone got any opinions on weather it is bad or not? Was told it was bad to leave them loaded for more then a couple weeks. This seems like bs to me. Anyone got any thoughts?
RichP
March 21st, 2008, 08:41
Nope, I guess if they use cheap springs it might be an issue. I don't load them all the way, usually short one round. There was a study done on it, don't remember where now, but the gist of it was 'a non problem'...
Ghost
March 21st, 2008, 09:25
Nope, I guess if they use cheap springs it might be an issue. I don't load them all the way, usually short one round. There was a study done on it, don't remember where now, but the gist of it was 'a non problem'...
That is kinda what i was thinking. I noticed all my ar clips were rebuildable so to speak. Or at least could be torn down and cleaned.
anodyne33
March 21st, 2008, 10:54
Magazine. Clips only apply to wheel guns.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31X6TlzLM9L._AA280_.jpg
I have a few McCormick 10 round 1911 mags with really stuodt springs. One stays loaded with defensive ammo. I've never had any problems, but if you have a "cheap" OEM mag with a weaker spring you may want to think twice.
ladywolf
March 21st, 2008, 10:59
what i've found, is that if you leave a full magazine for too long, the rounds depress the spring, and it will be bent into that, so when you start to fire, your spring wont decompress like it should, and you will have issues w/ proper loading into the chamber.
that, and you can take rounds out, then if you shake the magazine, you can hear the spring slide back and forth and your rounds wont come up to the top like they should (kinda difficult to xplain w/out pics)
seanR
March 21st, 2008, 11:21
You should not leave clips loaded for extended periods.
If you want to keep some ready for TEOTWAWKI, you will have to rotate clips periodicly....
97XJ Jeeper
March 22nd, 2008, 09:37
What I do with my carry G22 is, I have 6 mags, 3 I carry at a time, I switch them every 2 weeks.
WB9YZU
March 22nd, 2008, 11:24
My only experience with continously loaded clips was when I was a kid, I found my Uncles old Daisy that had been sitting in the attic for 35 years with a full load of BBs in it. The feed spring in the magazine was dead.
I unload everything I have when I am done with it. So nothing stays loaded more than a day.
I wonder what the Military teaches folks about loaded clips?
Ron
Ghost
March 22nd, 2008, 11:56
I wonder what the Military teaches folks about loaded clips?
Ron
Yea me too.
slider
March 22nd, 2008, 13:26
i have 12 AR-15 20 rd'rs that i found in my dads shed. they have been loaded with 18 rd's each since the mid 70's. they work just fine. i leave my mags loaded all the time. if it's a handgun mag, i drop one rd. if it's an AR or M-14 mag i drop two rd's. i've never had a function problem. but i do use good quality stuff. you get what you pay for.
ladywolf
March 22nd, 2008, 17:17
Yea me too.
i know i was taught, for while being out here, 's good to clean out your mags and drop all the rnds at least once every 2 weeks, clean out the inside, reapply a light film of CLP to the spring, etc. . . stretch stuff back out, then reload your stuff, and if you have the capabilities, rotate your mags, so you wont wear em out too fast.
slider
March 22nd, 2008, 18:37
another thing i've started doing that seems to work pretty well. is using dry graphite on the followers. it comes in a spray can and you just paint the sides of the follower and let dry. it makes it very slippery but since it's dry it doesn't let the dirt and grime stick to it.
SCW
March 22nd, 2008, 20:58
+1 to everything above. If you have an old spring (like WWII era) the spring will likely have a memory if compressed and won't spring back well. ALL (yeah, bold statement but I stand by it in all but the cheapest crap mags) modern mag springs won't have a problem, it's the repeated movement of the spring that will wear it out, not being constantly compressed.
Lots of mags have problems with the follower tipping and causing problems like Ladywolf mentioned. Either get good followers or take very special care in cleaning and lubrication of the mag- preferably both.
If you are dealing with that new AR of yours go to 44mag.com and buy some CProducts or DH/Labelle mags for $10 each. If you can get the Magpul follower that's even better.
mecompco
March 23rd, 2008, 16:47
Magazine. Clips only apply to wheel guns.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31X6TlzLM9L._AA280_.jpg
Really?
http://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/data/4/M1clip.jpg
The M1 clip is being inserted into the magazine.
Brian_NJ
March 23rd, 2008, 21:24
I've left magazines loaded for years with no ill affect. A pring does not wear out by being compressed it is worn by flexing so leaving it compressed is no problem for them. Heck probably have 100 assorted magazines loaded at the moment some I am sure have been loaded over 10 years. No worry about them.
FlexdXJ
March 24th, 2008, 17:45
I've left magazines loaded for years with no ill affect. A pring does not wear out by being compressed it is worn by flexing so leaving it compressed is no problem for them. Heck probably have 100 assorted magazines loaded at the moment some I am sure have been loaded over 10 years. No worry about them.
ready for the end of the world huh. guess its always good to be prepared
Brian_NJ
March 24th, 2008, 18:14
ready for the end of the world huh. guess its always good to be prepared
well sort of I used to shoot alot of 3 gun matches and still shoot about 20 k rounds a year for fun. So the kids load the mags for me :)
T3hk1w1
March 24th, 2008, 20:08
I wouldn't worry about it. I leave the mags on my carry piece loaded at all times, except for when I go to the range.
planefixer
April 5th, 2008, 20:13
Know the difference :twak: :
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x303/planefixer67/Guns/ClipvsMagazine1.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x303/planefixer67/Guns/ClipvsMagazine2.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x303/planefixer67/Guns/ClipvsMagazine3.jpg
:D :D
Stumpalump
April 5th, 2008, 20:39
I keep 4 30 rounders only filed with 23 rounds. I can grab my shit and go. If I have time I just pack three mags and empty one. That gives me 3 packed clips one in the chamber and one last resort. Basically keep a handfull of mags partialy full and save your springs.
Kejtar
April 6th, 2008, 09:39
clips you can have loaded just fine
http://www.u-handbag.com/images/hairclip.gif
Magazines on the other hand.. yes, rotate the rounds out, shoot them, use them and buy a new spring every couple years.
In theory for SHTF scenario consider having your mags always loaded....
SteveT
April 6th, 2008, 12:31
A few years back I read an article in American Rifleman about an "attic find" of a WWI vet's stash of his .45 and several loaded magazines. Left to sit for over 80 years, that same question came up...Are the springs wasted?
Nope. Pistol, ammo, and mags functioned just fine. I keep 13 rounds in my 15 round mag for home protection. If I need more than that, I'm in big trouble.
Steve
PornstaR
April 8th, 2008, 21:01
cheap mags do go bad (what do you expect from cheap china made junk). I have left quality mags loaded for years........... no effects at all.
SteveT
April 9th, 2008, 13:11
Plus, replacement springs are available pretty easily. Wolff, I think is one brand name.
90Blue_XJ
April 12th, 2008, 05:51
Got several Glock factory mags for my G22 that stay full all year and I have some cheap aftermarket ones I take to the range and only load with 10 rounds while there. Never had any probs with factory ones but my aftermarket 15 rounders won't feed if fully loaded thus only filled to 10 rounds. I only take the junk to the range because I have been ripped off a couple of times at the community range. I never leave my firearm while I go to reset a new target either. At least not at that range.
C85D4x4
April 14th, 2008, 15:59
Police Officers leave there extra magazine's loaded
SCW
April 16th, 2008, 16:30
Police Officers leave there extra magazine's loaded
Police Officers = dumb-@$$es who don't know $h!t from Shinola. Asking a cop about guns is like asking a 16 year old droopy-pants gang-banger about muffler bearings in his Civic with a trash-can tail pipe. He's try to make you think he knows what he's talking about, but no. Just no.
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C85D4x4
April 16th, 2008, 20:30
Police Officers = dumb-@$$es who don't know $h!t from Shinola. Asking a cop about guns is like asking a 16 year old droopy-pants gang-banger about muffler bearings in his Civic with a trash-can tail pipe. He's try to make you think he knows what he's talking about, but no. Just no.
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Ok...ok...calm down
I was just making a observation.........and there is no need to insult Police Officers
garr
April 16th, 2008, 20:43
You can leave mags Loaded for decades with no effect, What wears out the spring is cycling! Loading & unloading the mag;
And you can probably cycle a USGI mag a thousand times before it begins to show some fatigue in the spring.
I have seen 1911 (45ACP) mags function perfectly that sat loaded for 30 years.
dgrigorenko
April 16th, 2008, 20:51
I wonder what the Military teaches folks about loaded clips?
Ron
SOCOM says: keep 28 rounds in a 30 round mag. the followers are the only problems i have encountered, but i use magpul mags now, so its a non issue.
97XJ Jeeper
April 18th, 2008, 09:35
Police Officers = dumb-@$$es who don't know $h!t from Shinola. Asking a cop about guns is like asking a 16 year old droopy-pants gang-banger about muffler bearings in his Civic with a trash-can tail pipe. He's try to make you think he knows what he's talking about, but no. Just no.
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Not all. I would think my good friend and I are gun smart. He is a sheriff and I am in private security. He has over 70 guns, AR-10, AR-15, M4A1, MP5, G22, G27, 1911s galore, just to name a few. I have a G22, only need one he brings plenty to the range to shoot for the both of us. :D So when you say something like that say, most don't know there gun from a hole in the ground. Now that is true because some of them I wonder how they remember how to take apart the Glock to clean it, let alone to shoot it properly.
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