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tony597fitter

August 25th, 2003, 17:17

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=428941

Is he on this board? The name sounds familar. That thing is AWESOME!!

Jes

August 25th, 2003, 17:25

How ironic. :D :D ;)

Jes

REDXJ4FUN

August 25th, 2003, 17:36

hum its kinda funny to see JUs reaction Then compare it to what it would be here. There are all up his but and here some guys would rather chew it.

vintagespeed

August 25th, 2003, 18:00

Richard's done alot of work on that thing, it's going to be interesting to see how it works. He's still working on the front coilover hoops and steering details.

August 25th, 2003, 18:02

Hes on PBB
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=170702

Gary E

August 25th, 2003, 18:08

How ironic.

Saw that earlier over on pirate :)

tony597fitter

August 25th, 2003, 18:59

I didnt want to piss anyone off, I just thought it was a cool ride. I admire a person who spends alot of time fabricating something. Tonight was actually the first time I went on JU. I didnt even know it existed. I have been on and off this board for about 2 years now. You should be hearing from me more because I finally can build the xj because the wife has her ride now.

August 25th, 2003, 19:20

I don't think you pissed anyone off. People on this board and over at pirate just like to make fun of JU because the board mostly consists of the same questions over and over again, and lots of nonscence instead of actual usefull information and tech. I personaly only check JU if I want to laugh at something.

offroadman83

August 25th, 2003, 19:25

You now I would like to agree with you, but I have been on and off Naxja for a long time now usually didn't post anything til this new board came up, and I have been a member of JU for a lot longer. I happened to learn a lot from JU, as I found out you can wade through the BS and learn quite a bit. I learned some here as well and plan on becoming a full fledged member very soon! JU has been good to me so please don't talk bad about it. Sorry to intrude in your thread as Richards Rig is quite the beast.---Kyle

RCP Phx

August 25th, 2003, 20:58

Id call it anything but "awsome"!It is "interesting" for an off-road only rig.As stated and obvious in the thread,there is no down travel,and those springs are not exactly cheap.Expirementing can get costly.The front/rear control arm angles are rather steep and the fabrication/welding deserves alot of attention!
This is one of our current designs,"rolled" the Class-8 this weekend in Mexico.
http://www.foutzmotorsports.com/JuneUpdate/Pictures/Ran-pass-on%20jacks.jpg

Beezil

August 25th, 2003, 21:12

howmuch does that thang weigh?

looks like way too much tubing.

vintagespeed

August 25th, 2003, 21:13

TB angle should be addressed as in this pic:

http://www.rockxj.com/images/richards_front.jpg

Mine isn't ideal either but I like it up higher:

http://www.rockxj.com/images/3link/front_susp.jpg

I sure like that Class 8 chassis there Phx, but we're talking XJ here. :D

Fullsizexj

August 25th, 2003, 21:20

Here is some of that no droophttp://www.jeepbarracks.com/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album24&id=acz&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

RCP Phx

August 25th, 2003, 21:20

Yeah,but the thought was about fabbing/welding that was the point!Notice how much "cleaner" yours is?Make your bracketry "fit the function and no more","cheesing is always welcome but nothing beats good design!

RCP Phx

August 25th, 2003, 21:34

Originally posted by Fullsizexj
Here is some of that no droophttp://www.jeepbarracks.com/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album24&id=acz&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

It appears fairly impressive till go back to your original photo,then it looks like your only getting 6-8".Dont get me wrong but the amount of money and effort is way beyond what is an "efffective" lift.If your building a competition rig than I say "go for it"!

Fullsizexj

August 25th, 2003, 21:49

Not building a comp rig, and that is not what the final lift height will be, the springs that are in it are for a reference point only, it will sit alot lower than that when finished. Not all of us have full on fab shops to work in and make due with what we have. It don't have to be pretty to be functional

4ward

August 25th, 2003, 21:51

Fullsize, I applaud what you're doing and the process you're taking. It's lookin' good and I bet it looks kick ass when you're done. I shudder to think what most of the people out there would say if they saw pics of my junk with all of its temporary junk on it.

JKTXJ

August 25th, 2003, 22:22

Make that two applauses! I just started with the fabrication and I love it. Making bumpers, rock rails, etc... it's all cool. But what you got going is way cool. Good work!

RCP Phx

August 25th, 2003, 22:27

I couldnt agree more!Although I have access to some nice stuff I do all my work at home.I "Officially" got out of the businees back in 1985.I only do design work and "One-off's" in my spare time now.What I was really refering to is welding brackets on brackets on brackets.Proper design would "homogenize" this into a "cleaner/stronger/lighter" bracketry.I love "what" your doing,just wonder about how practicable it is to the "nominal" XJ'r.

KarmirXJ

August 26th, 2003, 00:30

Fullsizexj

August 26th, 2003, 03:09

I realize building it this way is not practical for most people, and I often wonder what I got myself into but it has been alot of fun to do. I have spent alot of time trying to get the backend to function the way I wanted with leafs and just could not ever get it the way I wanted. I did have the front working really well with the original style springs and was gonna do the back end only but when you end up with 2 extra 16" Sway-Away remote resivoir shocks for free, you get ideas and I happen to of went with them. To be honest, I have no idea how it will work when done but that is half the fun of building up Jeeps, trying new things. I may not be the best fabricator and don't really care if I am, I am just having fun with it.

JnJ

August 26th, 2003, 05:14

Cool.

dave

August 26th, 2003, 05:28

is the tierod bent and mangled or am i nuts?

anywho i think its interesting to see how different people approach a similar goal.. i've been tossing around the idea of going front spring over and flipping the springs in the back..... to each there own and every mind works different.... Fullsize can you get me 2 free " extra " coilovers too.. i can use em :D

Fullsizexj

August 26th, 2003, 05:37

That is a factory Ford Tie rod and they bent them that way to clear the housing for some reason, it would clear even if it was straight across, guess some engineer got board again, who knows, I wont be using it, it and the track bar are just there so I can move it. I am looking into going Full Hydro Steering and am pretty sure that is what I will do so far. As for the Sway-Aways they sent me the extra pair by mistake as a direct drop ship from sway-away, when I called Sway-Away about it, Their reply was
"Oh well keep them" so I did.

dave

August 26th, 2003, 05:39

Originally posted by Fullsizexj
. As for the Sway-Aways they sent me the extra pair by mistake as a direct drop ship from sway-away, when I called Sway-Away about it, Their reply was
"Oh well keep them" so I did.

:eek: lucky bastid....

August 26th, 2003, 10:21

Originally posted by Fullsizexj
Here is some of that no droophttp://www.jeepbarracks.com/albums/album24/acz.jpg

utahxjer

August 26th, 2003, 14:02

Richard your famous!!!:worship:

PhatXJ

August 26th, 2003, 15:20

Originally posted by CW.
I don't think you pissed anyone off. People on this board and over at pirate just like to make fun of JU because the board mostly consists of the same questions over and over again, and lots of nonscence instead of actual usefull information and tech. I personaly only check JU if I want to laugh at something.

Besides, making fun of JU is 'the cool thing to do' and it makes you really popular.

August 26th, 2003, 15:43

Originally posted by PhatXJ
Besides, making fun of JU is 'the cool thing to do' and it makes you really popular.
I guess I'm popular then.? :cool: OK. JU isn't that bad if you want info on aesthetic mods and some offroading. There are exeptions to everything and you are one of them Phatxj. I found JU before I found NAXJA and it used to really tick me off when someone just wanted advice on there xj and no one gave them usefull info. When someone asks what the best lift to fit 31" tires is, does a bunch of wise asses telling them to get a 3" body lift help them at all? NO. The whole purpose of a technical forum is to share information, not confuse people who have just gotton into wheeling with SPOBI. It is possible to find info on JU, it is just takes a little more patience.

PhatXJ

August 26th, 2003, 15:48

Where in Idaho CW?

XJJPR

August 26th, 2003, 16:31

Richard,

Glad to see you over here at NAXJA. If I knew all it was going to take you to get here was to talk some crap about your Rig I would of done it along time ago. LOL

Looks like your gona beat the hella out of that JB guy.

mark
orgs mfg

August 26th, 2003, 16:45

Coeur D' Alene

Fullsizexj

August 26th, 2003, 16:45

How's going there Mark, I think Jim tipped me off to this thread as a diversion to get me out of my garage so he could try to catch up, but I will continue to arrange buyers for his parts to slow him down, as it is I found someone to buy his coilovers so he can start working on some 2"x14" sway-aways, that should hold him back for a little while since he will have to redo his mounting distances

PhatXJ

August 26th, 2003, 17:13

Originally posted by CW.
Coeur D' Alene

I'm in Moses Lake, 'bout 2hrs West of you. We should hit it up sometime.

vintagespeed

August 26th, 2003, 18:04

Originally posted by Fullsizexj
How's going there Mark, I think Jim tipped me off to this thread as a diversion to get me out of my garage so he could try to catch up, but I will continue to arrange buyers for his parts to slow him down, as it is I found someone to buy his coilovers so he can start working on some 2"x14" sway-aways, that should hold him back for a little while since he will have to redo his mounting distances

Catch up? I waited for 2 months for you to get your front together! I didn't want to leave you in the dust. ;) Now it's just a race to finish the steering I guess (I get my DOM tomorrow morning BTW). And as to those 'sold' coilovers well............

Fullsizexj

August 26th, 2003, 19:27

Hey Jim, I could find a buyer for that little 44 you have and then you can put some beef up front, and I really think you ought to do that triangulated thing you were talkin about too, may take a while but well worth it I bet:D

utahxjer

August 26th, 2003, 23:21

Phatxj- you can't talk crap on JU, aren't you a moderator over there?

PhatXJ

August 27th, 2003, 00:18

Originally posted by utahxjer
Phatxj- you can't talk crap on JU, aren't you a moderator over there?

Huh? Wha?

I didn't follow you there, but um... I am an Administrator there, and I could talk all the smack I wanted, but I wouldn't because that wouldn't help me gain more knowledge about our hobby, nor help me get to know some excellent people. That is the reason I post on these forums, nothing else.

utahxjer

August 27th, 2003, 00:20

Dude I'm just kidding. And I was looking at your website. You bent a tierod on the Rubicon? Did you drive all the way back to Idaho w/ that bent? Was it a big deal?

PhatXJ

August 27th, 2003, 00:23

Hell, I drove all the way back to Idaho, drove around there for 2 or 3 days, then drove all the way up to Washington where I live. I probably put 1k miles on that bent tie rod.

Does that make me hardcore? :D

I didn't bend it enough to cause any major issues ;)

utahxjer

August 27th, 2003, 00:24

Good to know, cause I'll be in Moab, (oct) with my dinky steering and 35's.

PhatXJ

August 27th, 2003, 00:33

I just tossed on a new drag link with a beefier sleeve and one of these bad boys.

http://rockcrawler.com/techreports/bigdaddytierod/images/01_endclose.jpg http://rockcrawler.com/techreports/bigdaddytierod/images/08_installedclose.jpg

http://www.bigdaddyoffroad.com/html/xjtierod.htm