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4" lift with just chevy shocks?????

I was kinda laughing too when I had seen the auction and I just had to ask...
I started thinking, "maybe if the shocks are longer and they are SUPERDUPER GAS CHARGED... maybe..." lol
 
DUDE does that mean if i just put in Frieghtliner shocks I get like um.................lets see.if ya calculate the wieght ratio thingy and divide it by gravity at specific altitudes...,,,,... uh I should get around 10" lift with an automatic ride hight adjustment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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gotta love ebay man!!!!!!!!!!! :smoker: DEFFINITLEY some crack smokin goin on there...
 
I thought it was a mistake; you know, like 'the shocks will be good for an XJ that's been lifted 4" or so.'

Then I saw the part that said 'you don't need to change any of the OEM suspension' and shook my head.

:)
 
4 hours left on the auction and no one has bid.....lol....
 
Me - [FONT=Arial, Verdana]you are an idiot! Shocks don't provide lift, they provide a dampening force. Anyone you con into buying these thinking it will lift their jeep is obviously dumber than you are and I feel sorry for them.

Seller -
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana]Look punk read the description. You want proof do it yourself, Go find 2000 + TAHOE REAR shocks Compress them and put the on and see for yourself. NOW how long will the lift last not sure but my buddies jeep has been lifted now for over 8 months with four of the shocks alone. By the way you need alot of force to compress these enough to install. Try it with some 2000 and up tahoe REAR Shocks ONLY. Your a dip-poop, do yourself a favor and just try it to prove me wrong rearend hole.

Me -
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana]Ha. Quite the bitter little rooster sucker aren't you? I wouldn't afro-engineer my rig like you would, I like to be able to make it home not have to call a tow-truck. Love your grammar and language skills, did your hill-billy trailer-park living mother teach you that or was it the hooker your truck driving father got you when you were 13?

Seller -
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana]Yes using these is definetley a Hill billy way of lifting a jeep and NO I wouldnt use these on my personal XJ. But I do not have time to go back and forth with you and frankly I really dont give a big brown turd what you think about if this would work or not. In short unless you try it (just put some on the rear of and XJ and see) you will never believe it.
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BS... i have personally done a lift on both my jeep and my buddies chevy and compared the shocks... yes there were fatter but a HELL o a lot smaller that STOCK jeep shocks!
 
I think he's trying to sell the idea off as gas-charged shocks will aleviate some weight on the springs thus providing lift. But in his auction and messages you have to get 4 shocks on the rear axle of your cherokee.. which IS doable but is it worth the effort to weld on more mounts? I don't think so.
 
I emailed him as well and asked, he told me that the shocks are so stiff that the XJ doesn't weigh enough to compress them, which is how you get the lift.
 
Many years ago....for a VERY SHORT TIME....some guys around here "lifted" their rigs (usually old early Broncos or FS Fords) by installing 4 HD air shocks...this was when a 32" tire was HUGE....after several of them blew a front shock while making a turn (like an exit ramp from the highway) and stuffed the tire into the fenderwell and rolling over.....that silly BS stopped.
 
They are Nivomat Shocks and yes they will support wieght and add lift.

Here's some info about them.

Nivomat maintains a level suspension, front and rear, while trailering or at a fully loaded condition," says Uwe Grasse, product engineering manager.

Nivomat is a semi-supporting system working in combination with a mechanical spring. The Nivomat shocks are only mounted on the rear where most of the additional weight is located.

Nivomat looks like a standard shock absorber with a piston rod with damping valves at the end, an outer tube and a cylinder tube. Several components are added to provide the leveling function. Two reservoirs are contained in the outer tube, an oil reservoir (or low pressure reservoir) and a high pressure chamber. Inside the piston rod is the pump chamber (with inlet and outlet valve) and the pump rod, which serves as a height sensor or regulator and a release bore which releases the pressure after the vehicle has reached level.

A load initially causes static compression of the vehicle's suspension. Once the vehicle begins to move, the pump is activated by the relative movement of the body. Extension of the piston rod causes oil to be drawn through the inlet valve into the pump. Compression then pushes the oil through the outlet valve into the high pressure chamber. The pressure in the oil reservoir decreases as the pressure in the high pressure chamber increases. The increasing pressure acts on the piston rod and raises the vehicle at a continuous rate.

Once the vehicle has reached optimum height, oil is no longer drawn in. The height regulator opens a bypass between the high pressure chamber and the pump chamber preventing oil from flowing out of the oil reservoir.

When the vehicle is unloaded the vehicle begins to rise. The height regulator opens the release bore. Oil flows out of the high pressure chamber into the oil reservoir, the pressure drops in the high pressure chamber and the vehicle lowers to the initial height.

Since Nivomat is mechanical, the vehicle needs to be moving before the pump starts to work and it takes about a mile to a mile-and-a-half of travel before the vehicle reaches its optimal level point.

"It takes very little input to actuate the pump," says Hunt, "about plus or minus a millimeter is all it needs, so even on smooth roads the Nivomat pumps up quite quickly."

But the Nivomat system doesn't just level the vehicle under load. As the load increases, the pressure inside the shock increases as oil is displaced from the reservoir to the inside of the unit, compressing the gas volume. This creates a progressive increase in spring rate and damping with little or no change to ride frequency.

"At a high GVW or max load, the ride frequency would be almost the same as curb position, but would never go as low as a conventional suspension," says Grasse.

"Rear air leveling is the direct competitor to this product," says Hunt. "But with either a conventional suspension or air-leveling suspension you don't get a significant increase in spring rate with load like you do with Nivomat."

He also points out that a standard air compression system is made up of 14 parts, many exposed to the environment, adding some 30 pounds to the vehicle. The Nivomat system has only two parts weighing half as much, which reduces assembly plant inventory and logistics problems.
 
TNT, are you saying that the stock shocks on that Tahoe are Nivomat's?
 
selarep said:
TNT, are you saying that the stock shocks on that Tahoe are Nivomat's?

The optional load leveling suspension uses rear shocks that are Nivomat shocks. The shocks in the picture are Nivomats and look just like the Nivomat shocks Chrysler uses on their minivan with the load leveling option.
 
Muddy89XJ said:
Behold....


The miracle suspension.

Isn't technology amazing.....

Some people just need to come out of the '80's and learn something new. Chrysler has been using these shocks for 10 years. It's not like it's new technology...
 
ddeadserious said:
no.

Shocks do not provide lift.


Thats what you think... Plain gas shocks don't but Nivomat shocks are totally different animal....

Would I use them for lift? No.

Would they provide some lift? Yes, the mounts better be real strong thou.
 
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