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OT
January 8th, 2006, 19:10
There will be a hands on gear installation clinic at the Badlands campground on Thursday Mar. 2nd at 11:00 AM.

If you want to learn the art of the gear setup, then be there.
If you have gears to install, show up and you'll be taught how on your own rig.
This clinic will also include a lunchbox locker install portion for all that have wondered how, but never had the confidence to do it.
If you want to learn how to install a Lincoln locker, the right way, you will need to secure a good welder.

You will need to bring your own hand tools and air tools.
I will be bringing my precision setup tools, but someone will need to bring a hydrualic press and someone will need to bring a compressor large enough for power tools.


If you are interested, post up here.
This will take place outdoors, so if the weather is too inclement, the clinic will be called off.


There will be no charge for the instruction, but alcoholic beverages can be donated to the campfire kitty.
It's highly recommended that you donate. :laugh3:
XJ_ranger
January 8th, 2006, 22:20
thursday at 11:00am huh...

any chance you could move that back in time a little later?

im planin on cuttin friday class, dont know if i can cut thursday and friday...
i can be there at 7:00pm with hot gears :D

if not - im up for missing more class...
OT
January 8th, 2006, 22:31
We plan to wheel.
The gear jobs may take all day.
I'm wheeling Friday.
seanR
January 9th, 2006, 07:20
Good Deal Okie!!
Side Note:
IF the weather is bad,
and
IF the axle is out of the vehicle,
we may use the "confrence room" in the Hilton.
So if some one has an extra axle that they can along, that would be super!
XJ_ranger
January 9th, 2006, 09:36
Good Deal Okie!!
Side Note:
IF the weather is bad,
and
IF the axle is out of the vehicle,
we may use the "confrence room" in the Hilton.
So if some one has an extra axle that they can along, that would be super!

or a set of jackstands...

doesnt take much to pull an axle :D
HaleYes
January 9th, 2006, 12:11
Props to Okie for offering to do this! :yelclap:

Hopefully I'll have mine complete by then, but I'd still like to attend the clinic.
Gil BullyKatz
January 10th, 2006, 17:28
BTT for an outstanding offer!!!

Even if you do not have the tools to do this yourself...

This is a great opportunity to watch how it's done and understanding the inner workings of your rear end...

:D

Wish I could make it!

Thanks for offering Terry!
Lawn Cher'
January 10th, 2006, 17:31
This is a great opportunity to watch how it's done and understanding the inner workings of your rear end...

Dr. Terry, MWC Proctologist.
Gil BullyKatz
January 10th, 2006, 17:48
Dr. Terry, MWC Proctologist.


http://www.rolandmetalart.com/proctolgist_366x424.JPG
XJ_ranger
January 10th, 2006, 17:50
someone will need to bring a hydrualic press and someone will need to bring a compressor large enough for power tools.


TTT...
IntrepidXJ
January 10th, 2006, 17:51
Assman
XJ_ranger
January 11th, 2006, 13:55
Great... I got a leaky front axle seal... guess that means this is the time to re-gear and change thoes seals...

im looking at 460.00 for gears, master install kits, and a front carrier from PORC - good deal? bad deal?
Dirk Pitt
January 11th, 2006, 14:42
Great... I got a leaky front axle seal... guess that means this is the time to re-gear and change thoes seals...

im looking at 460.00 for gears, master install kits, and a front carrier from PORC - good deal? bad deal?

Not bad for front and rear.

Also try completeoffroad.com
XJ_ranger
January 11th, 2006, 15:20
Also try completeoffroad.com

good call!
HaleYes
January 11th, 2006, 16:39
good call!

FWIW,

I got Yukon 4.10's and a Timken MI kit from Complete OR for $188 to my door. I thought that was pretty good.
seanR
January 11th, 2006, 16:42
Completeoffroad is the best!
$50.00 cheaper than the next closest outfit for my Detroit Locker!
bshaw
January 11th, 2006, 17:08
I've bought both of my lockers off Rawbrown (member of NAXJA). I felt that he gave a good deal on both of them, shopped around a little and he beat everybodies price. I'd rather support the small man rather than the big companies. Shipping was quick, and customer service was excellent! got my two pennies.........
LBEXJ
January 11th, 2006, 17:28
I've bought both of my lockers off Rawbrown (member of NAXJA). I felt that he gave a good deal on both of them, shopped around a little and he beat everybodies price. I'd rather support the small man rather than the big companies. Shipping was quick, and customer service was excellent! got my two pennies.........
I bought both Detroits and gear sets from Rawbrown. He gave me a very competitive price. There is no beating his support though. He walked me through setting the D30 gear set using a cell phone and emailing pics. Very good guy to work with.

Les
bshaw
January 11th, 2006, 17:33
I bought both Detroits and gear sets from Rawbrown. He gave me a very competitive price. There is no beating his support though. He walked me through setting the D30 gear set using a cell phone and emailing pics. Very good guy to work with.

Les
x2
He gave me the run down over the phone on what had to be done. Never did have to call him for anything else during the install, but he gave a good prep talk about everything before I started.
XJ_ranger
January 12th, 2006, 14:52
when changing gears would be a good time to replace front axle seals too right?

well, my passenger side axle seal might as well not exist, so i guess now is the time...

do master install kits come with new axle seals?
are there any special tools for changing axle seals?

thanks guys...
Lawn Cher'
January 12th, 2006, 15:12
when changing gears would be a good time to replace front axle seals too right?

well, my passenger side axle seal might as well not exist, so i guess now is the time...

do master install kits come with new axle seals?
are there any special tools for changing axle seals?

thanks guys...

WTF, this ain't tech. Search, newb!
XJ_ranger
January 12th, 2006, 15:26
WTF, this ain't tech. Search, newb!

eff you buddy!

ive never seen an inner axle seal...

i guess i am a newb...
flexjay87
January 12th, 2006, 17:25
Ranger, what axles do you have?
XJ_ranger
January 12th, 2006, 17:49
Ranger, what axles do you have?

High Pinion Dana 44 and a Ford 9" both with "stock" components from a 1976 f-150...

yeah - they are yellow... :D
OT
January 12th, 2006, 17:50
eff you buddy!

ive never seen an inner axle seal...

i guess i am a newb...
The master install kits don't come with axle seals, only the pinion seal and maybe a cover gasket.
Orielly's has them.

Next time search nOOb.
XJ_ranger
January 12th, 2006, 18:10
The master install kits don't come with axle seals, only the pinion seal and maybe a cover gasket.
Orielly's has them.

Next time search nOOb.

thanks OT.
flexjay87
January 12th, 2006, 21:19
Ranger, a friend of mine sometimes gets good deals on Yukon stuff if you are interested? you need gear sets and master install kits for both? goin to bed right now, i'll check back tomorrow.
HaleYes
January 12th, 2006, 22:15
The master install kits don't come with axle seals, only the pinion seal and maybe a cover gasket.
Orielly's has them.

Next time search nOOb.

FWIW
My Yukon MI kit came with inner seals. I'm new to the re-gearing scene so maybe I'm not on the same page....
Since I'm at work and extreamly busy at the moment...here's pics.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/haleyes1/100_0140.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/haleyes1/100_0142.jpg
Aren't the seals to the left of the yellow packet? There are 2 there, they are stacked. Cover gasket came with, not in pic.
OT
January 12th, 2006, 22:18
Fer sher they are.
There you go.
XJ_ranger
January 13th, 2006, 00:19
Ranger, a friend of mine sometimes gets good deals on Yukon stuff if you are interested? you need gear sets and master install kits for both? goin to bed right now, i'll check back tomorrow.

yeah and a d44 numericaly high carrier (3.92 and up) - but after calling everyone - Rawbrown and PORC have the same price, and ill be going with rawbrown once i get my $$$ figured out...
Gil BullyKatz
January 13th, 2006, 13:54
eff you buddy!

ive never seen an inner axle seal...

i guess i am a newb...


What...

The Big 3 is no more?

Oh The Horror!
IntrepidXJ
January 13th, 2006, 13:56
FWIW
My Yukon MI kit came with inner seals.

x2 hasta
HaleYes
February 19th, 2006, 21:25
Who is planning on attending? Just as spectators or do you have gears to set up?
OT
February 19th, 2006, 22:21
Who is planning on attending? Just as spectators or do you have gears to set up?
Ditto.
I need to know if I can sleep in or not.
XJ_ranger
February 19th, 2006, 22:34
to re-itterate for some of you -

Aussie locker for the d44
Inner axle seals for the D44

are on my list...

didnt have the $$$ for gears...
85xjwoody
February 20th, 2006, 05:18
I will be attending as a spectator. No gears or lockers to install just yet.

Kim.
scoobyxj
February 20th, 2006, 05:28
I will be attending as a spectator. No gears or lockers to install just yet.

Kim.
X2...
bshaw
February 20th, 2006, 09:58
i'd like to watch if I get there early enough!
IntrepidXJ
February 20th, 2006, 10:08
sounds to me like there are a lot of watchers....but no gears to setup?
HaleYes
February 20th, 2006, 16:00
sounds to me like there are a lot of watchers....but no gears to setup?
Seems to be the case.

Come on.
Somebody needs to regear. It'll be cheap, and it looks like there will be plenty of help. What a deal.

Okie and Ranger,
I'm not bringing my air comp. like we talked about, if there is no takers.
OT
February 20th, 2006, 16:33
Alrighty then.
Aussie install clinic it is!
I didn't really want to spend a 30 degree day trying to get patterns right anyway.
IntrepidXJ
February 21st, 2006, 12:24
I didn't really want to spend a 30 degree day trying to get patterns right anyway.

i don't blame you.....especially when you can be wheeling instead ;)
XTrmXJ
February 22nd, 2006, 20:22
The master install kits don't come with axle seals, only the pinion seal and maybe a cover gasket.
Orielly's has them.

Next time search nOOb.


Yukons come with the inner seal, mine did at least, and yes it does require a special tool to install them, you dont want to dick them up, it can cost you an entire diff
XTrmXJ
February 22nd, 2006, 20:24
Terry, if some one does show up with gears I can tackle one of the axles so we can hit the trail sooner.. Bad thing is thats not good to break in the gears
BOB
February 22nd, 2006, 20:31
Terry, if some one does show up with gears I can tackle one of the axles so we can hit the trail sooner.. Bad thing is thats not good to break in the gears

I can see heat buildup not being good for the gears. But, short distances wheeling shouldn't build a lot of heat. What else besides heat is bad for new gears?

...BOB
OT
February 22nd, 2006, 20:33
I can see heat buildup not being good for the gears. But, short distances wheeling shouldn't build a lot of heat. What else besides heat is bad for new gears?

...BOB
Well, actually, hard torques may be hazardous for non-work hardened gears.

But, mine will have only have driven about 50'.
From the shop, Saturday, to the trailer.
It'll see more distance on it in the campgrounds, than it's had.
BOB
February 22nd, 2006, 20:43
thanks Okie.
I won't be there until Friday.
I wish I could sit in on this.

...BOB
XTrmXJ
February 22nd, 2006, 20:45
I can see heat buildup not being good for the gears. But, short distances wheeling shouldn't build a lot of heat. What else besides heat is bad for new gears?

...BOB

Brand new gears with a good size load is not good, you put alot of load on your gears offroading and in Low range
XJ_ranger
February 22nd, 2006, 22:41
Okie and Ranger,
I'm not bringing my air comp. like we talked about, if there is no takers.

it would help with taking the ring gear off for the aussie install... and the bearing caps...

and it would be generaly handy in the teardown of my front and rear ends...

Id sure appriciate it if you could bring it and an impact wrench....
HaleYes
February 23rd, 2006, 00:14
it would help with taking the ring gear off for the aussie install... and the bearing caps...

and it would be generaly handy in the teardown of my front and rear ends...

Id sure appriciate it if you could bring it and an impact wrench....

What are you doing to the rear? I thought all you wanted to do was the Aussie and seals in the D44.

An impact too?? Geez.... Anything else you need? Ya want a two post lift too??

Whine one more time and I'll consider it. :D
XJ_ranger
February 23rd, 2006, 08:20
you have a portable 2 post lift! sweet!
:rattle:

Im swaping the 3rd member for one with a Posi...
Lawn Cher'
February 23rd, 2006, 18:49
Huh huh, Opie said member.
scoobyxj
February 24th, 2006, 04:45
you have a portable 2" post lift! sweet!
:rattle:
Im swabbing my 3rd member in some Poopy...

There I fixed it for him.
4ward
February 24th, 2006, 06:31
I can't say as I've ever "properly" given a set of gears their break in time. It's usually slap them in and hit the trails at full throttle the next day. IMO it's a non-issue.

Anybody want to swing by my shop and pick up a few 60's. They need regeared and I don't feel like doing it :wave:
OT
February 24th, 2006, 06:52
Anybody want to swing by my shop and pick up a few 60's. They need regeared and I don't feel like doing it :wave:
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