Unimogs Axles

[xjfan1974]

I know I have seen this thread before but would to get some more info. if anyone has it on installing a set of mog axles - what mod. work has to be done to fit them - even a web site would help. I realize that it isn't going to be easy - but the way I look at it - any axles I build up is going to be expensive to do - specially a set of 60's. I have a friend building a set and if has already got $ 4,500.00 in parts in his 60's not including buying them. So I thinking of going with a set of unimogs. Any help out there????

[ECKSJAY]

Knock yourself out.

http://www.exaxt.ca/

[xjfan1974]

I can buy them from www.teximog.com for $ 1750.00 a set / 150.00 for shipping that plum stupid to pay there price - my friend just two steer axles for $ 2600.00 - so I don't know what there smoking

[ECKSJAY]

I can buy them from www.teximog.com for $ 1750.00 a set / 150.00 for shipping that plum stupid to pay there price - my friend just two steer axles for $ 2600.00 - so I don't know what there smoking

Ok...slow down when typing.

A) Your link doesn't work.

B) What is your friend getting for that price? New parts? Used, ie: haven't been rebuilt?

[xjfan1974]

typing to fast

[xjfan1974]

www.teximog.net

[xjfan1974]

www.teximog.net sorry - they were used.

[ECKSJAY]

www.teximog.net

Well, there ya go. Save the time/energy rebuilding them and have Rob do it for you. No wonder they were so cheap. Can't really compare pricing then...

[RCP Phx]

http://www.killeraxles.com/index.html

[xjfan1974]

buying a set from your website is almost $6,000.00! Plus we didn't have to rebuild the axles that he bought they already check them over

[xjfan1974]

I have seen all these website before I only seen two cherokees where they have put them under a cherokee how difficult is this to do and how much more money are we talking about

[xjfan1974]

pcp phx I have already tried to contact them about a set but no reply yet

[ECKSJAY]

buying a set from your website is almost $6,000.00 !!!!!!! Plus we didn't have to rebuild nothing on my friends axle they already check them over

Apples - Oranges
Used - Reconditioned

BTW, I posted the link as they are the ones to ask. Rob is familiar with Jeeps, XJ/MJ in particular.

[xjfan1974]

I sent him a email.

[JeepFreak21]

Christ man! You don't need a new post for every sentence!
Billy

[ECKSJAY]

Christ man! You don't need a new post for every sentence!
Billy

Post padding, Billy. He's a jealous n00b.

[GREEN XJ]

Go with a 60 front and 14b rear. I have like $1000 in mine w/buying the axles.

[xjfan1974]

how do you delete some of the message then

[The Blu Yak]

you cant delete posts, but for future reference edit your messages when you need to correct, instead of posting 19 to correct a statement.

[Bolognablake]

You do realize that most 'Mog portals are geared at 7.56:1 right?


(That means it would be completely impractical to use on your daily driver)

[bj-666]

You do realize that most 'Mog portals are geared at 7.56:1 right?


(That means it would be completely impractical to use on your daily driver)

is someone building a cherokee wiht mog axles realy going to be using it a DD?
don't the portal boxes change the gear ratio as well making the 7.56 number a little off?

[gearwhine]

is someone building a cherokee wiht mog axles realy going to be using it a DD?
don't the portal boxes change the gear ratio as well making the 7.56 number a little off?

that's with the portals factored in

[Danno]

the diff gearset is about 3.55 to 1 and the portal makes up the difference to 7. whatever. I have two pair in my basement. the idea was to put some under my XJ. Too wide and way too heavy to be really practical. Cutting them down can be done but lots of work and expense. Still, a neat idea.

[ECKSJAY]

the diff gearset is about 3.55 to 1 and the portal makes up the difference to 7. whatever. I have two pair in my basement. the idea was to put some under my XJ. Too wide and way too heavy to be really practical. Cutting them down can be done but lots of work and expense. Still, a neat idea.

Would be a killer fullsize project...like a nitrous-blown bored out/stroked 440 Power Wagon. :D

[xjfan1974]

As far as being to heavy they weight 1100lbs which a dana 60's would be about the same weight. And I don't want it as DD just a trail rig. Second of all when building dana 60 after adding kingpin, gears, air locker, etc. you will have alot of money invested in a set of 60's. so really when buying a set of mogs you don't have to worry about any of that.

[NXJ]

What kind of UMG-axles are you refering to/planing on getting ? That makes a big difference.

[Danno]

the front Mog axle weighs close to 850 pounds and the rear is about a 100 pounds lighter. This is NO way close to the weight of a D60. I know cuz I've had to move the Mogs around my garage enough times. Damn heavy. Also expensive to ship. I had to go to the freight terminals to get them.






As far as being to heavy they weight 1100lbs which a dana 60's would be about the same weight. And I don't want it as DD just a trail rig. Second of all when building dana 60 after adding kingpin, gears, air locker, etc. you will have alot of money invested in a set of 60's. so really when buying a set of mogs you don't have to worry about any of that.

[NXJ]

the front Mog axle weighs close to 850 pounds and the rear is about a 100 pounds lighter. This is NO way close to the weight of a D60. I know cuz I've had to move the Mogs around my garage enough times. Damn heavy. Also expensive to ship. I had to go to the freight terminals to get them.

What kinds ? The 404s are 600 lbs. (272 kgs) front and 550 lbs. (250 kgs) rear. Not much in my opinion.

[hockey10588]

http://www.xjdb.com/albums/xjs/IM000162.sized.jpg

check that out its pretty sick. go to xjdb.com and type in portals or 404's. you'll get a couple of pics and there pretty damn awesome!

[XJ_ranger]

http://www.xjdb.com/albums/xjs/IM000162.sized.jpg

check that out its pretty sick. go to xjdb.com and type in portals or 404's. you'll get a couple of pics and there pretty damn awesome!

wow

bolt on coil spring mounts... cool!

[xjfan1974]

404's are the axles I want to buy - and we weighed my friends 404's together and it weighed 1100lbs - as far as shipping teximog will send them to my work in Kansas for $150.00 dollars... Now is there anyone on this site that has installed a set of 404's or have seen someone install them or know of any write ups on installing a set of them on a cherokee

[FitchVA]

i think i've read of a few guys doing it on pirate4x4.com

[NXJ]

404's are the axles I want to buy - and we weighed my friends 404's together and it weighed 1100lbs - as far as shipping teximog will send them to my work in Kansas for $150.00 dollars... Now is there anyone on this site that has installed a set of 404's or have seen someone install them or know of any write ups on installing a set of them on a cherokee

Yep, THAT is a more accurate number. And IMO, that is light compared to all the advantages they'll give you. If you convert to discbrakes they'll weight just about the same (if not less !) as a D60/14B-combo - and that is axles "everyone" likes to throw under their XJs.

[xjfan1974]

(NXJ) - and if you build up 14bolt/60 the right way with gears, locker, kingpin, highsteer, etc you are going to have alot of money invested in those axles.

[NXJ]

Exactly !

Oh, and BTW:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/546000-546999/546256_229_full.jpg

http://www.xjdb.com/albums/xjs/finished4.sized.jpg

:greensmok

[xjfan1974]

I have seen those pics but unfortuately know one will give any info on installing - like what took to do it. or what they would do different.

[Ludakris]

i have been toying with the idea of mogs as well, mostly because of costs.. one issue i found was the front diff location.. its more toward the center of the axle than the outside.. so clearance issues with the oil pan/transmission come up. you have to add into the price the cost of new pinions as well.. stock they have a long pinion and housing, these have to be swapped to shorter ones.
I would think that suspension geometry will be a little strange with the portal boxes..
need enough lift for axle/pinion clearances, then you add in the lift caused by the portals.. may be a bit high for my tastes.. but havent figured that out yet.
Also, when something does break, where do you get parts, how expensive are parts, and how long do you have to wait for said parts?

I think their are some great "pros" for the axles...

There is a guy on Pirate that did Volvo portals in a MJ..

[xjfan1974]

as far as pinion goes I know that you need to buy pinion conversion which are about $200.00 a axles, as far part you would have spares long before wheeled. As far as lift I figured a 4 inch lift would give me enough suspension lift that I need because the 404's are going to give about 6 inches of lift. but I can't figure the rest of the stuff.

[Ludakris]

as far as pinion goes I know that you need to buy pinion conversion which are about $200.00 a axles, as far part you would have spares long before wheeled. As far as lift I figured a 4 inch lift would give me enough suspension lift that I need because the 404's are going to give about 6 inches of lift. but I can't figure the rest of the stuff.


do you know what parts break on a mog axle? there are more parts to buy as "spares"...
how do you come up with 4" of lift?

10" of total lift is pretty tall.... with a high COG...

[CRASH]

I have seen those pics but unfortuately know one will give any info on installing - like what took to do it. or what they would do different.


I don't understand this thread. What exactly is your question?

Buy the axles. Put them under your rig in the position that you desire. Build your suspension around them.

What's the problem?

CRASH

[xjfan1974]

On my old 4 door cherokee I ran hp 44/9" with 10" of lift on 38's and love it. I have talk to others that say a mog axle will give you roughly a 6" lift - I figure all I am going to run for tire 39.5 tires. so give or take I will need rough 10" lift - the reason I am want to go with mog. because of the ground clearance I will get. second - it hardly has been done.

[xjfan1974]

My big question is how much do cut off the axles?

[NXJ]

My big question is how much do cut off the axles?

Elaborate. Are you talking about narrowing them ? Well, it depends on where/how you wheel. Here is a TJ on full-widht 404s to give you the idea:

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8001/umgtj5md.png

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/328/umgtj28zh.png

I bet it'll be super stable.

[jackieonasses]

Have you done any fabbing before? It really seems like you are a newbie at this. YOu are going to have to beef up the unibody with those. i hope you know that. I used to want portals.... but after figuring if you DO break a shaft it is hard to find them!

[FIREBLADE]

NXJ.That first XJ with the cage. Where, did you find that? I tried looking at cardomain.com but they have the worst search engine and I couldn't find it.

[xtremexj94]

Well - the Green chopped XJ with the narrowed 404s is mine. What do you want to know?

[NXJ]

FIREBLADE, I cant seem to remember. Possibly of PBB.

xtremexj94, your XJ is straightout rad ! How much are they narrowed ? And what rims are those ? Do you have any pics of the link mounts at the "frame" ?

[xtremexj94]

Diffs are narrowed 7"; wheels are custom 17x9 steels with 3/8" thick plate centers (wheels are for sale). I do have some pics but my files seem to be too large to post on this board.

[FIREBLADE]

Even though it doesn't have anything to do with MOGs I wanted to see more shot of the bumper that had tube going kinda over the headlights. I'm thinking of a similiar idea and had seen no one with a similiar design until I saw that XJ with the cardomain.com logo on the pic. If you could post some more pics if you have them (maybe a side view). Thanks.

What is PBB?

[NXJ]

I do have some pics but my files seem to be too large to post on this board.

www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us)

PBB = Pirate Bulletin Board.

[xtremexj94]

Here's a small video clip if anyone's interested:

www3.telus.net/xtremexj/skegvid.MPG

[TB-XJ]

I'm having the same delimna about Rockwells, I found a junkyard with a bunch of old military stuff, I can probably get a set of axles for $100 a pair.