Who gets rid of the E brake?

Super mud · Jan 22, 2012

Got the jeep with no E brake, set it up when i did the disc brake swap, wouldn't work no matter how tight, got an 8.8 now, said F the E brake.

I have an auto. I was going to make a driveshaft brake to put on the tcase output but don't want to find the material to make a rotor and deal with it in general. Plus the handle takes up valuable console space that would be nice to use. Any good reason to keep to use on/off road?

Begster · Jan 22, 2012

Yes, there is a good reason: emergencies, which is why its called an "emergency" brake. I personally wouldn't remove it, since I've actually used mine when I blew a brake line to stop myself. Also, does your state require a working e-brake for inspections? Another good reason to keep it.

It is fairly easy to make the ford 8.8 e-brake work on the XJ. I have 8.8 discs on my 44 and have a working e-brake. It would honestly be much more work to do a driveshaft brake than get those brakes working.

cheapcherokee93 · Jan 22, 2012

i've been running with out an E brake since i swapped in my 8.8. just haven't gotten around to making it work. the explorer cables aren't exactly the best thing to work with

souske · Jan 22, 2012

The Lokar kit works awesome for disc brake swaps

1985xjlaredo · Jan 22, 2012

Yes you need an Ebrake. I set mine all the time and both my XJ and my F150 are auto's. It drives my wife nuts. But Id rather rest my vehicle on the brake drum than the drive train.

xjtrailrider · Jan 22, 2012

In VA you have to have an E-brake and it must work in order to pass the VA State Safety inspection. No sticker=tickets

ChiXJeff · Jan 22, 2012

I drive stick shifts. Emergency/parking brakes are mandatory.

VAhasnoWAVES · Jan 22, 2012

ChiXJeff said:
I drive stick shifts. Emergency/parking brakes are mandatory.

x2

Vanimal · Jan 22, 2012

souske said:
The Lokar kit works awesome for disc brake swaps

for xj cables, do i just need to get the clevis that lokar sells? doesnt explain much on the site. just got 8.8 brakes for my d44.

souske · Jan 22, 2012

you could get the clevis, but the cable needs to come out of the housing to install them.
One could probably get away with ordering the clevis and set screw block.

xjtrailrider · Jan 23, 2012

For my ZJ brakes i just drilled the lever and used the "U" part of a 1/8" cable clamp. This idea might work with the 8.8 brakes as well

98XJLongBuild · Jan 23, 2012

I havent had an e brake since my handle assembly failed so i just cut out all the cables from the engine tunnel to the drums.

I plan on using line lock brakes wonce i Get my 60's in.. Plus line locks are alot more safer than a cable brake

xjtrailrider · Jan 23, 2012

98XJLongBuild said:
I plan on using line lock brakes wonce i Get my 60's in.. Plus line locks are alot more safer than a cable brake

I disagree. if you loose hydraulic pressure you will not have brakes that will hold. Also there is no way to slow a vehicle down with a line lock in the event you loose brakes on the road.

Its called an "Emergency Brake" for a reason!

Now if your rig is trail only, line locks are fine but I would still use the line lock in conjunction with a working E-brake

kcmudbug · Jan 23, 2012

I'll never understand why ebrakes are set up as drum brakes inside a disk from a manufacturer standpoint.

Thanks for the pics xjtrailrider. That looks like a good idea.

Super mud · Jan 23, 2012

Historic tags so no inspections.

Yea manuals scare me for that reason of rotating the engine over.
My friend's doesn't hold well so he has a wheel chock on a rope inside his wrangler

I trust my drivetrain way more over a set of tiny drums to keep it from rolling away

I've lost brakes a couple times but because of the dual master cylinder resovoir, you loose front or back and it stops pretty decently on rear disc.

Yea line locks don't work for emergencies. I'd use one for parking though.

They make calipers with a mechanical lever on them. Boostwerks has a set on his I think.

Begster · Jan 23, 2012

98XJLongBuild said:
I plan on using line lock brakes wonce i Get my 60's in.. Plus line locks are alot more safer than a cable brake

Complete BS, for reasons listed below.

xjtrailrider said:
I disagree. if you loose hydraulic pressure you will not have brakes that will hold. Also there is no way to slow a vehicle down with a line lock in the event you loose brakes on the road.

Its called an "Emergency Brake" for a reason!

Now if your rig is trail only, line locks are fine but I would still use the line lock in conjunction with a working E-brake

GrimmJeeper · Jan 23, 2012

Super mud said:
I've lost brakes a couple times but because of the dual master cylinder resovoir, you loose front or back and it stops pretty decently on rear disc.

That is because of the safety valve in the proportioning valve, it shuts when front or rear brakes lose pressure. It has nothing to do with the master cylinder

Just FYI

ChiXJeff · Jan 23, 2012

98XJLongBuild said:
I havent had an e brake since my handle assembly failed so i just cut out all the cables from the engine tunnel to the drums.

I plan on using line lock brakes wonce i Get my 60's in.. Plus line locks are alot more safer than a cable brake

The idea is that the emergency brake system should be as separate from the main braking system as possible. This means that the emergency brakes need to be as close to to the wheels as they can, so no pinion mounted brakes either.

If you look at a drum setup, you'll see that the actuating system is only 1 arm away from the shoes.

Porch951 · Jan 23, 2012

It's not an emergency brake, it's a parking brake. People erroneously call them parking brakes. Years ago they actually did put "emergency brakes" on cars, they were on the front wheels as they should be.

You can use a parking brake to slow down in an emergency, but you better say your prayers if you're going faster than 40mph. Slamming on the parking brake could do all sorts of funky stuff.

That said, i spent 2 hours making my parking brake work when i did my late-model console swap last weekend. No reason to not have one!

Johnnie Walker · Jan 23, 2012

Porch951 said:
It's not an emergency brake, it's a parking brake. People erroneously call them parking brakes. Years ago they actually did put "emergency brakes" on cars, they were on the front wheels as they should be.

You can use a parking brake to slow down in an emergency, but you better say your prayers if you're going faster than 40mph. Slamming on the parking brake could do all sorts of funky stuff.

That said, i spent 2 hours making my parking brake work when i did my late-model console swap last weekend. No reason to not have one!

x2.. it is a PARKING BRAKE.

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