Front drive shaft used in the rear?

Outlander560 · Jun 24, 2011

Hey guys looked around but the search on her just brings me to "what did you do on your jeep today" and crap like that.

I'm going to be buying an AA sye and i would like to save a few $$ so instead of buying a tom woods driveshaft could i just buy a stock front xj axle and use it in the rear?

VAhasnoWAVES · Jun 24, 2011

stock XJ axle will not work in the rear... :doh:

what year, motor, tranny, t-case do you have?

if you have the 4.0, AW4, 231 combo it is common to use the front drive shaft of the same combination in a rear SYE application. now, we cant guarantee that because we dont know what rear axle your running, lift height, etc... but typically accepted as "will probably fit."

get the SYE in and measure. you can always use this PDF if you need to find something shorter/longer:
http://www2.dana.com/pdf/J321-CV.PDF

ericfx1984 · Jun 24, 2011

VAhasnoWAVES said:
stock XJ axle will not work in the rear... :doh:

lol, I am sure that is what he meant

ericfx1984 · Jun 24, 2011

you can run the stock AUTO front d shaft in the rear BUT you will need a Slip Yoke Eliminator kit, or SYE for short... it is best to run a kit that has a fixed output yoke, instead of a fixed output flange... because with the Fixed output yoke it is just plug and play...

otherwise you need to adapt the d shaft... no big deal, just a little more money

91to99 · Jun 25, 2011

ericfx1984 said:
you can run the stock AUTO front d shaft in the rear BUT you will need a Slip Yoke Eliminator kit, or SYE for short... it is best to run a kit that has a fixed output yoke, instead of a fixed output flange... because with the Fixed output yoke it is just plug and play...

otherwise you need to adapt the d shaft... no big deal, just a little more money

I think he said he was going to buy a AA kit...:spin1:

ericfx1984 · Jun 25, 2011

91to99 said:
I think he said he was going to buy a AA kit...:spin1:

should work perfect then

ehall · Jun 25, 2011

What rear axle? The pinion makes a difference for distance. I found the stock shaft to be bordlerline with the D35 (short pinion) but no problem with the 8.25 (long pinion)

Outlander560 · Jun 25, 2011

woops i meant front xj "drive shaft"*****

VAhasnoWAVES:2001 aw4 with a 231 combo...4.5 inch lift with a c8.25

91to99/ericfx1984:i'd prefer not to buy the whole kit (sye and driveshaft) id rather just purchase the AA sye and find a good CHEAPER alternative instead of buying the 300 dollar tom woods driveshaft...

trd_xj42 · Jun 25, 2011

That will work fine. That is what I used before I swapped rear axles.

Outlander560 · Jun 25, 2011

thank you...so just a bolt in after the sye is installed? no fab work needed?

Stukboy · Jun 25, 2011

I used to use a front shaft in the rear with a 44 and 36" swampers.
Did so for 7 years.
Never broke.

ericfx1984 · Jun 25, 2011

Outlander560 said:
thank you...so just a bolt in after the sye is installed? no fab work needed?

assuming you have a c 8.25 rear end... if not a shortened grand cherokee shaft would work I think

Outlander560 · Jun 25, 2011

yea i have a c8.25

Outlander560 · Jun 25, 2011

great! thanks stuck boy

ericfx1984 · Jun 25, 2011

Outlander560 said:
yea i have a c8.25

YOU are GOOD TO GO!!!

arty:

VAhasnoWAVES · Jun 25, 2011

ehall said:
What rear axle? The pinion makes a difference for distance. I found the stock shaft to be bordlerline with the D35 (short pinion) but no problem with the 8.25 (long pinion)

correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the D44, 8.25, and 8.8 that have a shorter pinion than the D35? or is it the D44, D35, and 8.8 that have a shorter pinion than the 8.25? im confusing myself... :anon:

Outlander560 said:
thank you...so just a bolt in after the sye is installed? no fab work needed?

the AA kit should accept a 1310 Ujoint. the same joint that all cherokees use. id use your front shaft after installation to see if it fits the bill. if not, that link i posted will help you find something longer/shorter.

ehall · Jun 25, 2011

The D35 has a short pinion. The D44 and 8.25 are basically the same long pinion. You can see this in the stock driveshafts, where the D35 shaft is about an inch longer to allow for the shorter pinion.

I don't know about the 8.8, I assume the pinion is longer due to pumpkin size and there is also the flange for the 8.8 but I don't know

ericfx1984 · Jun 25, 2011

VAhasnoWAVES said:
the AA kit should accept a 1310 Ujoint. the same joint that all cherokees use. id use your front shaft after installation to see if it fits the bill. if not, that link i posted will help you find something longer/shorter.

for the money I would just buy a grand cherokee V8 shaft, or durango(I think) and have it shortened, should cost around $50-$100

VAhasnoWAVES · Jun 25, 2011

ehall said:
The D35 has a short pinion. The D44 and 8.25 are basically the same long pinion. You can see this in the stock driveshafts, where the D35 shaft is about an inch longer to allow for the shorter pinion.

I don't know about the 8.8, I assume the pinion is longer due to pumpkin size and there is also the flange for the 8.8 but I don't know

got it. the 8.8 is short as well. at least my reading has told me this when i was looking to do the swap.

ericfx1984 said:
for the money I would just buy a grand cherokee V8 shaft, or durango(I think) and have it shortened, should cost around $50-$100

why? if you can find one that fits the first time why reinvent the wheel? itll use the same U-joints which means the same strength.

ericfx1984 · Jun 25, 2011

VAhasnoWAVES said:
why? if you can find one that fits the first time why reinvent the wheel? itll use the same U-joints which means the same strength.

cost?

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