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4.7 stroker build

XjRomper

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I beleive I have a rod bearing taking a shut on me. Have a sound in the motor that resembles a bad bearing. It's a 4.0 now and dieing for a stroked. Looking for input on parts list and some direction on install. Thanks
 
Listen to advice and search for good build in performance. It make for good engine.
 
lots of good info here

My 4.X liter Jeep Stroker Recipe
By Corey Kruchkowski
Note 1: All part numbers current as of May 2009.
Note 2: Where not mentioned, standard engine rebuilding
techniques apply.
Note 3: This is a tested recipe. Fieldtested,
and comp tested.
The
Block:
‐ To avoid unnecessary frustration, run the block from the
generation of engine that came in the vehicle that you are
placing the motor into. There were 4 versions/generations of
the 4.0L block and all had minor EXTERNAL variations. Read
the casting under the exhaust headers.
‐ If you are running a competition buggy, run a highmileage
Renix 4.0L engine (casting dates up to 1990, Gen 1 cast on
drivers side). It has higher nickel content and will be well
seasoned. It is the toughest block from a metallurgical
standpoint, and highly recommended for competition.
‐ Bore 0.040 over if possible. The engine will run cooler, and
one more rebuild (0.060) will remain if the unforeseen
occurs.
‐ Have new cam bearings installed.
‐ Install bottomend
studs in the block. Hesco part number
HESMS6 Hesco ARP Bottom End Studs. Install as per
Hesco/ARP instructions.
3
‐ Install head studs in the block. Hesco part number HESHS6
Hesco ARP Top End Studs. Install as per Hesco/ARP
instructions.
The Crank:
‐ The best 258 (4.2L) crank to run is the 198790,
3727 4
counterweight crank. It weighs 46lbs, and has a 54mm snout.
This crank is a direct bolt in to the 4.0L block and works with
a stock 4.0L harmonic dampener.
‐ If 3727 cranks are unavailable or difficult to find, the second
best 258 (4.2L) crank to run is the 198186,
3235477 4
counterweight crank. It weighs 46lbs, but has a 64mm snout.
This crank needs a 10mm spacer or 10mm removed from the
snout to work with a stock 4.0L harmonic dampener.
‐ Under no circumstances should a 12counterweight
crank be
used to build a Jeep inline Stroker engine.
‐ Have the crank spinbalanced.
Generally this only takes a
competent shop 1/2hr – 1hr, as they are very close from the
factory. Have all the oil holes chamfered. Check the pilotbearing
journal if you are running a standard trans,
machine/enlarge as necessary.
The Rods:
‐ You must run the longer 4.0L rods. This is both a power and
longevity issue. Yes – it requires custom pistons.
‐ Deburr all the casting flashes off the sides of the 4.0L rods.
Blastpeen
the rods in a highpower
bead blast cabinet to
surface harden. Resize. Install ARP stud kit PN 1126001.
Install as per ARP instructions.
‐ The casting number for all the years of the 4.0L rod is
53020126.
4
‐ Weight balance the rods before pressing them into the
pistons, then weight balance each rod and piston assembly
endforend.
The Pistons:
‐ Now that Keith Black has added 4.x liter Stroker pistons to its
catalog, these are the ONLY pistons to run in a normally
aspirated 4.x liter Stroker engine. Installing these pistons on
a 4.0L rod will result in a deck clearance of 0.028, on a block
that has not been decked. Two varieties have been created.
‐ KB Silvolite forged 944 come with a 21.7cc dish, resulting in a
9.5:1 compression ratio. This is the piston recommended for
stock 4.0L fuel systems (minus larger injectors of course) and
the milder 4.0L camshafts.
‐ KB Silvolite forged 945 come with an 11.4cc dish, resulting in
a 10.5:1 compression ratio. This is the piston recommended
for modified 4.0L fuel systems, and the most aggressive cam
profiles.
‐ A little known fact is that Chevy 283 rings work in Jeep 4.0L
engines. Run PlasmaMoly
racing rings for easy breakin
and
toughness. I like Hastings products, the quality is control is
excellent: PN 2M5506(
0.20304060).
File to fit for a
perfect match.
The Head:
‐ If the correct head is chosen, no modification is necessary to
the intake and exhaust runners.
‐ There are 4 head castings for the 4.0L head.
‐ The HO, or HiPo heads were in existence between 1991 and
1998. Casting numbers 7120 and 0630. The 7120 heads have
the coolant gauge sender necessary for ODB1 systems. These
5
two castings are the only ones worth considering for an
engine build.
‐ A 5angle
valve job is necessary.
‐ Stock valves may be reused
in all but the most extreme
applications.
‐ To run the camshafts I recommend, use MOPAR PN 5249464
springs with MOPAR 4452032 retainers. This combo is good
for cams with over 0.0500” of lift.
The Camshaft:
‐ I only recommend three cams for the 4.0L Stroker. Crane is
no longer in business, and one company in particular
continues to provide the best cams for this engine. I have
tried Isky, Clifford, Hesco and others – but came back to
Comp. Still the best profiles for this engine.
‐ For each cam, use Comp antipump
up lifters. PN 82212
‐ Stock replacement 4.0L pushrods are acceptable in normally
aspirated applications.
‐ For the best bottommid
trail crawling/tractor engine, use
Comp Cams PN 682324.
‐ For a midupper
screamer competition engine, use Comp
Cams PN 682394.
This cam will work best with compression
ratios of 9.5:1 and higher.
‐ For a great allaround
engine with mild street manners,
choose Comp Cams PN 682314.
Extras:
‐ Choose a double roller chain for durability, and reliability
during competition/racing and decreased friction. These
6
chains are manufactured and sold by Cloyes PN 93127,
and
supplied by MOPAR P5249519, and Comp Cams COC3127.
The chains work in all the 4.0L engines – a minor DIY
modification is required to the way the cam shaft is retained
in 99 and newer blocks (it is quite obvious once assembly is
undertaken).
‐ Run Harland Sharp pedestal mount rollerrockers
– they bolt
in with no modifications required. You must always check for
head & valve cover clearance and proper lifter preload. PN
S40196
FINAL WORDS:
• The above combo is the best balance of power and budget in
my opinion, when building a Jeep Stroker motor.
• If done properly, and attention to detail is maintained
throughout machining and assembly, 300+ horsepower and
350+ ft/lbs torque is expected with the 9.5:1 pistons. I am
unsure on the numbers for the 10.5:1 pistons (more) – but
fuel upgrades above and beyond oversized injectors must be
performed. Contact me for details on your specific
applications.
• Please let me know what you think, I welcome your input. If
you use this combo to compete – please give me credit for
your engine specs.
Best Regards,
Corey Kruchkowski
[email protected]
mobile (780) 9334012
http://tntgp.com
 
lots of good info here
that sounds like a great recipe, i wish i read more by corey before doing my build. i will probably go with that build on my next motor instead of my short rod 12-weight motor (which is still a huge improvement over the 4.0)
 
I don't know why he says to stay away from the 12er, other than weight, but other stroker-heads like it for off-roading w/ manual transmissions since it is tougher to stall out than the 4ers. My next build will be with 6.150" eagle rods, but the 4.2 rods are doing just fine for me and for many people. For a little bit more $ than KB, you can get Ross or Diamond custom pistons with bigger dishes and better pin-height so it's not .030" down in the hole(won't have to pay to have block decked). Yella Terra make awesome roller rockers. Comp Cams are a safe bet, but there are other good cams out there. Overall, good advice.
 
There is a lot of BS in that recipe. No need for head/main cap studs, there is no reason not to use a 12 weight crank, 5 angle valve job is not necessary and no proof of actual flow gain with it. His hp torque numbers are also too high.

Also, try jeepstrokers.com
 
Thanks for all the info. Sounds like I have my work cut out for me. Any opinions on what that sound could be. My jeep is 99 4.0 with 141,000 miles. Always stay on top oil changes with Lucas oil products. Recently replaced bottom end gaskit. Motor looked great. Thanks again.
 
Could be the flex plate bolts coming loose. Do a search on here about that and you'll hear noise clips and how-tos. Using a hose as a stethoscope is a good way to pin point the area the noise is coming from.
 
the simplest argument against the 12 weight crank is that it has the heaviest rotating weight. for a better responding motor, any weight savings you can get out of the rotating assembly makes more power quicker. just about any race motor will have the balancing pads on the rods ground down to the bare minimum necessary to match all of the rods together. holy wars have been started on less than the argument on long vs short rod builds.

bottom line is 4 and 12 weight, long and short arm all work
 
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