Carnegie Closure

[buzzbombxj]

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091215/A_NEWS/912159983

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091220/A_NEWS/912200323

they are worried about soil erosion in a dry creek :flamemad:

 

[the_weirdo]

There is a petition going around: http://www.carnegieforever.org

 

[kcjeep6]

Be there Monday 12-28-09
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2009/12/christmas-week-update-on-fight-for.html

 

[buzzbombxj]

Be there Monday 12-28-09
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2009/12/christmas-week-update-on-fight-for.html

I signed the petition and prepped my jeep today for the 28th. Temporary closure? I think the clear creek closure was supposed to be temporary too.

 

[Letterman]

I will try to sneek out the house on Monday, I think it is worth it to save the park even if I never ride at Carnegie anymore. I hate that that all the trails are 2 way, nothing worse then hall'in around a blind corner and finding a quad comming at you at full speed. Also not much for the jeep in that park, but I have not been in years so I will try to get there monday.

Who is going?

 

[kcjeep6]

This is very important, if the greenies can close Carnegie, Hollister, Pismo, Stoneyford, Frank Raines and all the other OHV Parks will be next! There are evil forces out in this state that we must stop.

 

[buzzbombxj]

I just got back in about 30 minutes ago; I got there, wheeled, and made it back no problems, nice when it happens. They did not charge 5$ at the gate today, which is a shame really since it was more packed than I have ever seen it. It sprinkled all day and it was greasy slick in places, lots of fun. I forgot how fun mud actually is, but I am dreading washing my jeep. I’m going to miss this place. Its only 40 minute’s way from where I live.

 

[Letterman]

Carnegie was on the morning news they showed shots from the other day, looked like a big turn out, and for now it sounds like the closer was pushed back till Jan 11th.

 

[geberhard]

Very good press coverage, so definitely refreshing. We met with Amy last night, CORVA, and the appeal is definitely working in our favor. One of the main issue with this suit and request for the permit, is that it is opening precedence. Aside from closure, one of the bigger impacts that may end up happening is that it could heavily impact riders, and end up creating some type of "trail enforcement", i.e. no broader land roaming. As opposed to riders, most 4 wheelers stick to trails, but again everything ends up snowballing and impacting everyone one way or another.

Back on the suit, the appeal required for the suing party (fishermen), to show proof of the metal level (they used data from a few years back as the creek is seasonal). The rain is not really helping, but we'll see what happens. Still everyone is hoping for the best.

Some pics:

 

[Bryan C.]

Found this on pirate.

http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=26...f7543-CA4WDC_update_03_29_10&utm_medium=email

Good news!

 

[blondejoncherokee]

i dont think greenie is a good term for the people that want 4x4 trails closed.
they are just hypocrites.

 

[SeansXJ]

they are worried about soil erosion in a dry creek :flamemad:

to be totally honest the creek has water in it at least 5 months a year, im not defending there cause, im just saying.....i only know this because i lived in Livermore for 2 years and would frequent there.