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what battery should I get to operate my winch??

ruffrich26

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Just bought a 8000lb xro winch gonna need to upgrade to a new battery for when i use the winch what should i get? I don't really wanna run a dual battery set up someone mentioned an Odyssey from sears? Just curious to see what the pros are running thanks!
 
Optima blows. I've had several die through the years and when I worked at O'reilly, it was the top battery to be returned.

Buy the top of the line 34/78EXT from OReilly. I've pulled 10,000 pound dead tractors up onto the deck over flatbed (read, nearly 4 foot tall deck) with a 34/78 sitting in the bed of the truck, only to bring it home, throw it in the Jeep, and drive away.
 
Die Hard Platinum, damn good battery. Its a rebadged Odyssey for half the price! :)
 
I run yellow top optimas...

in everything i own when they need a battery...

mac 'and have for the last 13 years' gyvr
 
Optima blows. I've had several die through the years and when I worked at O'reilly, it was the top battery to be returned.

Buy the top of the line 34/78EXT from OReilly. I've pulled 10,000 pound dead tractors up onto the deck over flatbed (read, nearly 4 foot tall deck) with a 34/78 sitting in the bed of the truck, only to bring it home, throw it in the Jeep, and drive away.

I ran a red top for a few yrs....WORST battery I've ever had. 2.5 yrs and it crapped out. I'll never spend that kind of money for a high dollar batt again. I got a Duralast gold...Autozone 800 CCA, 5 yr full replacement. Better warranty than a $200 red top batt. Autozone will replace it no questions asked. Not saying its the best Batt but the warranty was good enough...... a winch can kill a batt pretty quick bogging it down. I've also stated keeping a Battery tender JR... Trickle charge on it. I don't drive my jeep much.... Couldn't hurt. Good luck with purchase
 
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as mentioned above, the slower the winch the longer and possibly harder it will be pulling on a battery. I have ran red, yellow and blue Optimas and now I have completly gotten away from them b/c their new ones seem to be junk and dont last. I have an old school Ramsey winch that we use on a multimount and I just throw in a marine battery in the bed of the truck and run the cables to it when needed. I have had multiple pulls of all types of vehicles, farm equipment or scrap up on the GN trailer and it keeps going (being randomly recharged at times of course). I would lean to the diehard platinum or something now a days. I am a fan of the marine batteries due to their draw down abilities. But if it comes down to what is the less crappy of them all, everyone will have or known someone that has had a bad experience with any type of battery. My theory is get what you can afford and go have fun, if you really consider that most people only use their winch on 2% of their wheeling trips, and usually not even for themself......and make sure to save a few bucks back for a cold beer if that winch fails you.

Cheese "strap a 6 pack cooler next to it on the front bumper" Man
 
as mentioned above, the slower the winch the longer and possibly harder it will be pulling on a battery. I have ran red, yellow and blue Optimas and now I have completly gotten away from them b/c their new ones seem to be junk and dont last. I have an old school Ramsey winch that we use on a multimount and I just throw in a marine battery in the bed of the truck and run the cables to it when needed. I have had multiple pulls of all types of vehicles, farm equipment or scrap up on the GN trailer and it keeps going (being randomly recharged at times of course). I would lean to the diehard platinum or something now a days. I am a fan of the marine batteries due to their draw down abilities. But if it comes down to what is the less crappy of them all, everyone will have or known someone that has had a bad experience with any type of battery. My theory is get what you can afford and go have fun, if you really consider that most people only use their winch on 2% of their wheeling trips, and usually not even for themself......and make sure to save a few bucks back for a cold beer if that winch fails you.

Cheese "strap a 6 pack cooler next to it on the front bumper" Man

Very well said!:patriot: Trickle chargers and a battery disconnect on a part time Jeep work great.
 
Deka

If I were to spend the monies on high end batteries that would be my only choice. I've seen them survive in farm equipment, which means they are unbreakable.
 
we have tried them all and we use Trojan AGM, or Odyssey AGM, and the Sears and Odyssey are not quite the same battery, the Sears has cheaper parts and more reclaim internals.

but why mess with it run dual alternators or 3 alternators and be done with it, with one battery you should be winching with the engine running anyway so keep the extra alternator(s) off until you need them, but it is more expensive so just a thought.
 
Everyone's using specific brands. What you really need to keep in mind is you need a deep cycle battery.

I have used Red Tops and they work okay, Red Tops are not a deep cycle battery, the Yellow Top's are. It is recommended by Optima to use the Yellow for winching.

I have a Yellow and it works fine, and it matches my flames
 
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I have had a yellow top in the beast and has not let me down in four years. Also have a yellow top in the wifes jeep and a blue top in the van with no problems since the purchase a few years ago. As Dan just stated, make sure you are looking at deep cycle batteries and something that is spill proof in case of a rollover.
 
From Optima's site...

What does deep cycle mean?

Deep cycle means using the battery in an application that will discharge 60 to 70 percent or more of the battery capacity. An auto battery is an SLI (starting, lighting, ignition) battery. Its plates are designed to deliver maximum power for a short duration. Starting a car typically discharges an SLI battery 1 to 3 percent. When an SLI battery is used in a deep cycle application, or in a vehicle with heavy accessory loads, the battery life will be shortened.

When should I consider a deep cycle battery?

Anytime you need a battery to supply all the operating power for a vehicle. Deep cycle batteries should be used in vehicles with heavy accessory loads where the alternator cannot maintain the battery in a fully charged condition. Some examples include:

Vehicles with powerful stereo systems or a winch Vehicles with increased electronics like GPS systems, game systems, DVD players Boats with on-board chargers, trolling motors, fish finders, etc.

What’s the difference between an OPTIMA ® deep cycle and starter battery?

An OPTIMA deep cycle battery uses a different chemical for the active paste material on the plates, and a slightly stronger acid. This chemistry change allows for a much longer life in cycling applications with only a slight reduction in starting power.

How does a gel cell compare to the OPTIMA deep cycle battery?

Most gel batteries have a much higher internal resistance, meaning they will not be able to deliver and receive a current as efficiently. This is especially apparent at higher amperage levels. For example, most gel batteries will not work successfully in engine starting applications.
 
There is a lot of common misinformation in that.

A deep cycle was designed for low amperage draw, time was its main application was a trolling motor on a boat, they can be discharged and recharged many times but are not designed to be starting motor batteries, that’s true.

But a winch is a starter motor and it draws high amps. So most of that is just marketing, the fact is the red top is a better choice in a winch application, but it does require an upgraded alternator to extend the battery life.

Either way you are going to pay for it, Yellows are more expensive, however they can’t deliver the proper power that winches require, so the winch runs hotter and that shortens the life of the winch components. On other hand quality high amp alternators are expensive but you can run less expensive batteries and it will work better with lower quality winches, this is because you will have more power available to the winch so it will run cooler.

The info on gel batteries is complete BS, they work quite well in starting applications, and in fact we have run then on 12:1 compression with no issues.

The fact is this, Optima was the best battery in the world, we have been building high amp alternators since 85’ and we were fans from day one, but the company that acquired Optima started cutting corners and the battery is not half as good as it once was, if I am getting a deal or the customer specifically request one we will use it otherwise we will not.

But if you are buying the Optima propaganda about deep cycle batteries, Google Fullriver or Kinetik, cost you more but they are much better.
 
There is a lot of common misinformation in that.

A deep cycle was designed for low amperage draw, time was its main application was a trolling motor on a boat, they can be discharged and recharged many times but are not designed to be starting motor batteries, that’s true.

But a winch is a starter motor and it draws high amps. So most of that is just marketing, the fact is the red top is a better choice in a winch application, but it does require an upgraded alternator to extend the battery life.

Either way you are going to pay for it, Yellows are more expensive, however they can’t deliver the proper power that winches require, so the winch runs hotter and that shortens the life of the winch components. On other hand quality high amp alternators are expensive but you can run less expensive batteries and it will work better with lower quality winches, this is because you will have more power available to the winch so it will run cooler.

The info on gel batteries is complete BS, they work quite well in starting applications, and in fact we have run then on 12:1 compression with no issues.

The fact is this, Optima was the best battery in the world, we have been building high amp alternators since 85’ and we were fans from day one, but the company that acquired Optima started cutting corners and the battery is not half as good as it once was, if I am getting a deal or the customer specifically request one we will use it otherwise we will not.

But if you are buying the Optima propaganda about deep cycle batteries, Google Fullriver or Kinetik, cost you more but they are much better.


It's on the internet tho, so it must be true. :D

Thanks for the additional info.
 
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