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Tax time for students!

Ecomike

Ecomike

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5-90 said:
I think they're going the wrong way - why don't governments figure out how to spend less instead of collect more?

Increasing the tax burden isn't going to help the economy at all...
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Whoa is that common sense talk? Go stand in the corner, we'll have none of that around here.


But yea this is pretty stupid, but I'm not sure $300 (2 semesters a year?) a year is really going to stop people from going to private schools.

Why are private schools tax exempt? I understand why state schools would be but private is not state run.
 
fscrig75 said:
Whoa is that common sense talk? Go stand in the corner, we'll have none of that around here.


But yea this is pretty stupid, but I'm not sure $300 (2 semesters a year?) a year is really going to stop people from going to private schools.

Why are private schools tax exempt? I understand why state schools would be but private is not state run.
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Perhaps common sense is what's needed these days. We sure don't have much going on as it is...
 
THese asshat demoralizingcrats are fing up the whole plan. Do what you want with what you earn. Now, give it all to the gov so they can sit fat and happy. I think I can make the 10:15 to south america...
 
I am a little disappointed in you guys. No one has brought up the issue that on one hand the government (or one or more parts of it) is giving money to students via Pell grants, other local or state student grants, and interest free loans, at least to some students, and then with this is going to take back some of it.

The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away, comes to mind.

Now down here, we have a huge university student population that are here on student visas, spending money from overseas to go to our Universities.

But the foreigners have no vote here, so they are easy pickins for the tax hungry machines. What I don't get is why the politicians don't just raise other indirect fees, rather than stir up the students with a visible tax.
 
Ecomike said:
I am a little disappointed in you guys. No one has brought up the issue that on one hand the government (or one or more parts of it) is giving money to students via Pell grants, other local or state student grants, and interest free loans, at least to some students, and then with this is going to take back some of it.
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Because that's a frickin' given, Mike! I see no need to state the perfectly bloody obvious.

"No-one's life, liberty, or property are safe while the Congress is in session." -Ben Franklin, as I recall.
 
5-90 said:
Because that's a frickin' given, Mike! I see no need to state the perfectly bloody obvious.
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Obvious to you and me perhaps, but maybe not so obvious to newbies. You and I too easily forget how little we really knew when we younger.
 
5-90 said:
Good point.

I just can't remember a time when I wasn't jaded and cynical tho...
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I do, just barely. I was grooming myself to possibly take Bill Archer's Congressional Seat back in the old days, when I was about 22-25 (mid to late 70's, when I was enchanted, and an idealist), and I was a state delegate to the Texas Republican Party State convention, for 8 years running. Back long before Bush senior became president. I got jaded and cynical after Reagan and the prior oil bust screwed us over big time here in Texas in the 80's, just about the same time the moral majority took over the Republican party intent on legislating morality, and codifying it into the US constitution with about 100 new Constitutional amendments for starters.
 
Ecomike said:
I am a little disappointed in you guys. No one has brought up the issue that on one hand the government (or one or more parts of it) is giving money to students via Pell grants, other local or state student grants, and interest free loans, at least to some students, and then with this is going to take back some of it.
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Most of that, grants, comes from the FED, its the state that wants to tax the students. I'm still wondering why its a big deal to hit a private institute with a tax. We don't tax city buildings, but we tax private property. We don't tax public schools, why not tax private schools.
 
Hell! Let's just taxes everything! That will solve everything.

Seriously, the hypocrisy that runs rampant here disgusts and amuses me. Why on earth is it Ok for us to institute taxes on individuals who are pursuing an education at a private institution simply because they didn't choose an institution that you consider proper? Again, I'm seeing 'hidden' socialists here. Double standards of 'as long as they don't raise my taxes it's alright with me.'
 
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Like 5-90 said...why not figure out a way to spend less! Taxing more items is just a bandaid to the problem of over-spending. It's like a person getting more credit cards because they keep maxing out their current credit cards. Obviously that is highly discouraged in personal finance, and the same principle should go for our government finances as well.

Did you guys hear of the "soda/sugar drink tax" that was proposed in front of a Senate committee this week? The idea is for it to help pay for Obama's healthcare plan. The proponents of this idea say it's a way for the government to discourage consumption of these un-healthy drinks. This is just another example of the government trying to have complete influence over how we live our day-to-day lives.

What ever happened to providing a military defense system and governing the states? The current state of the government, and where it's heading, makes me sick.
 
Darky said:
Do you even know what socialist really means??
;)
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Sure, by definition a socialist believes in wealth redistribution using the government as the wealth re-distributor. Taxes are just another means of wealth redistribution, specifically targeting a group for higher taxation because of their perceived wealth is the purest form of socialism.
 
Ecomike said:
I am a little disappointed in you guys. No one has brought up the issue that on one hand the government (or one or more parts of it) is giving money to students via Pell grants, other local or state student grants, and interest free loans, at least to some students, and then with this is going to take back some of it.
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How is that different from any Federal Employee (myself included) paying income tax? You are essentially paying your own salary then.

As 5-90 suggested, the FedGov has a complete lack of any common sense....
 
Darky said:
Do you even know what socialist really means??



;)
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Well at least he can say he didn't vote for Obama....







wait, right? :anon:
 
And here all this time I thought you liked Socialism :D

I wish Barr and Ron Paul would team up to run....
 
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