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Codhead
January 6th, 2005, 12:00
First, yes I've searched and looked at websites until my eyes want to fall out.

Having said that, other than C-rok, can someone(s) tell me who makes rear bumper&tire carrier that wrap fully around the rear quarter panel to protect the panel from the body cladding down?

If you have one, do you like it?

Looking for options outside the C-rok so as to make an educated decision.

Jeepin Jason
January 6th, 2005, 12:13
Durango4x4's is a full 1-pc wrap-around bumper, rediculously expensive though.

C4x4 also has something similar. They use seperate bolt-on quarter panel guards though. They're probably going to be your best bang for the buck.

skyjackerXJ
January 6th, 2005, 12:21
http://detoursusa.com/images/slim_line.jpg

I believe that there's a tire carrier available with this bumper as well.

Codhead
January 6th, 2005, 12:27
The detours bumper looks sweet. Not much info, though - any insight on prices, finish (powdercoating?), the 3 versions or the tire carrier?

skyjackerXJ
January 6th, 2005, 12:36
I know that on Detours' jeep (Mark, a.k.a Hammertoe on NAXJA) has the same bumper made entirely out of diamond plate.

Not sure about all the details though.

Give Detours a call; Mark is a great guy and he'll give you all the info you need. He builds his stuff upon order, so I'm sure that he work with you on different options.

gmanxj
January 6th, 2005, 12:39
RIGID is releasing their rear bumper very soon.
www.rigidco.com

Lion Grrrrr
January 6th, 2005, 12:57
:wave: Try this and see what you think.But I am still looking through my favorite file.
















XJ Rear Bumper ('84-'96)

Custom designed for the '84-'96 Jeep Cherokee, our heavy-duty rear bumper is constructed of 3/16" and 1/4" steel. It comes predrilled for our tire carrier, unless ordered otherwise. Black powder coated.

note: can be ordered to fit '97+ XJ's for an additional $25, contact us for details.




Item Price
Rear XJ bumper ('84-'96)
$255.00

optional rear D-ring tabs (pair) $40.00
3/4" D-rings (pair) $24.00



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XJ Rear Bumper ('97-'01)

Specifically designed for the '97 Cherokee body-style, the bumper now features welded-on endcaps and bolt-on rear rocker guards. As with our original rear bumper, it's also constructed of 3/16" and 1/4" steel. Bumpers are predrilled for our tire carrier, unless ordered otherwise. Black powder coated.

note1: The bolt-on rear rocker guards that come with this bumper will interfere with Bushwacker's cut-out fender flares, if you have these flares, consider getting the bumper style for the older XJ's above.

note2: this bumper can be ordered to fit older XJ's for an additional $25. Contact us for details.

Item Price
Rear XJ bumper ('97-'01)
$345.00

optional rear D-ring tabs (pair) $40.00
3/4" D-rings (pair) $24.00



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Swing-away tire carrier

Custom designed to fit both our rear XJ bumpers, the carrier bolts directly to the bumper and features a new and easier to use latch design. Our new hinge design uses tapered bearings and is rated for up to a 35" tire! Black powder coated.

Item Price
Swing-away tire carrier (requires rear bumper)
$265.00




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Tire Carrier Accessories

We have both Hi-Lift jack mounts and Blitz brand jerry can mounts available for our XJ tire carriers. The Hi-Lift mount bolts on and features tabs for auxillary lights or CB antennas.

The jerry can mount is designed to work with 5-gallon Blitz brand jerry cans and may require some drilling to mount it.

Item Price
Hi-Lift mount (may require unbolting and removing diagonal brace on tire carrier) $48.00
Blitz can mount (jerry can not included)
$80.00

Weasel
January 6th, 2005, 13:10
mine...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/862678/Rear_1.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/862678/XJ_12small.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/862678/XJ_10_small.jpg

link if pics don't work:
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1051580

btraysxj
January 6th, 2005, 14:29
Lion... I can't see the pics. Which company are you referencing here?

btray

:wave: Try this and see what you think.But I am still looking through my favorite file.
















XJ Rear Bumper ('84-'96)

Custom designed for the '84-'96 Jeep Cherokee, our heavy-duty rear bumper is constructed of 3/16" and 1/4" steel. It comes predrilled for our tire carrier, unless ordered otherwise. Black powder coated.

note: can be ordered to fit '97+ XJ's for an additional $25, contact us for details.




Item Price
Rear XJ bumper ('84-'96)
$255.00

optional rear D-ring tabs (pair) $40.00
3/4" D-rings (pair) $24.00



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

XJ Rear Bumper ('97-'01)

Specifically designed for the '97 Cherokee body-style, the bumper now features welded-on endcaps and bolt-on rear rocker guards. As with our original rear bumper, it's also constructed of 3/16" and 1/4" steel. Bumpers are predrilled for our tire carrier, unless ordered otherwise. Black powder coated.

note1: The bolt-on rear rocker guards that come with this bumper will interfere with Bushwacker's cut-out fender flares, if you have these flares, consider getting the bumper style for the older XJ's above.

note2: this bumper can be ordered to fit older XJ's for an additional $25. Contact us for details.

Item Price
Rear XJ bumper ('97-'01)
$345.00

optional rear D-ring tabs (pair) $40.00
3/4" D-rings (pair) $24.00



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Swing-away tire carrier

Custom designed to fit both our rear XJ bumpers, the carrier bolts directly to the bumper and features a new and easier to use latch design. Our new hinge design uses tapered bearings and is rated for up to a 35" tire! Black powder coated.

Item Price
Swing-away tire carrier (requires rear bumper)
$265.00




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tire Carrier Accessories

We have both Hi-Lift jack mounts and Blitz brand jerry can mounts available for our XJ tire carriers. The Hi-Lift mount bolts on and features tabs for auxillary lights or CB antennas.

The jerry can mount is designed to work with 5-gallon Blitz brand jerry cans and may require some drilling to mount it.

Item Price
Hi-Lift mount (may require unbolting and removing diagonal brace on tire carrier) $48.00
Blitz can mount (jerry can not included)
$80.00

Jeepin Jason
January 6th, 2005, 14:30
C4x4. http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com

btraysxj
January 6th, 2005, 14:37
Thanks Jason...

YETI
January 6th, 2005, 16:11
I love my C-rok. Thing is sweet but was a little $$$.

XJjosh
January 6th, 2005, 16:30
doesnt kennesaw mountain make one? i saw it on a 97+ xj. looks good too. www.kenmtn.com i believe. have them send pics.

Lore5
January 6th, 2005, 16:49
mine...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/862678/Rear_1.jpg

You made that bumper right.

Red97XJ
January 6th, 2005, 17:45
Lion, (is that you mike?)

Can't see the pics. I love my C4x4 rock rails.

wanna see pics!

Jason

motorcityxj
January 6th, 2005, 18:09
RIGID is releasing their rear bumper very soon.
www.rigidco.com

do you know if there is pics anywhere ? I looked around the rigid site and couldn't find any ?

Codhead
January 7th, 2005, 05:39
Jason - is that a full wrap bumper, or are is qtr panel protection a seperate part?

Jeepin Jason
January 7th, 2005, 07:59
Jason - is that a full wrap bumper, or are is qtr panel protection a seperate part?

Read the first reply to your thread. ;)

gmanxj
January 7th, 2005, 15:17
I know that RIGID has been testing the rear bumper in Moab quite a bit lately, and they sent a few prototypes out. But the word is that the design has changed a bit from the prototypes.
The mounting system on their rear bumper is absolutley AWESOME!
I would expect it in the next month or so, fitting both newer and older body style of XJ's. And with a tire carrier option.
Pictures won't be up probably until they release it for production.

Red97XJ
January 7th, 2005, 16:31
Lion (is that mike?)

pics please, don't keep us waiting!

Hammertoe
January 7th, 2005, 18:45
Testing....its all about testing........
The Slim-Line Bumpers Detoursusa.com is about to offer have been on a
number of rigs for almost a year now, we're less than a month away from the
offering to the public.....final details are currently being worked out. Lack of
photos on our site is for a reason, those who have emailed us (Thankyou)
have been provided with the answers they asked. Final budget & pricing is in
the works.........tire carrier is also in the works for those who may have
intrest in that set-up...
Our Slim-Line Series bumper is not just pressed steel, it contains a rectangular
tube sub frame as well, the 3 configurations will be all diamond plate, a mix of
diamond plate and smooth steel and all smooth steel known as the Smoothie.
Recovery points wont cost extra, a 2" reciever will be available, and............
.....we dont powdercoat our products, its a waiste of money in our eyes.

Now, get out there and go wheelin already!! :us:

theksmith
January 8th, 2005, 09:29
I just recieved this email from c-rock last night:


Our tire carrier should be available in the next few weeks and we will putting some pictures of it up on the website very soon.

G. C-ROK

XJWheelie
January 8th, 2005, 10:52
I got a price quote on the tire carrier at $380, so it must be just about here. I've got to wait until the 1st of February anyways, since I've spent a fortune this month on an SYE, lockers, and suspension parts. Good thing that the only other mammal that I've got to account for is my dog! :party:

Robert

ckh550
January 9th, 2005, 11:58
www.carolinarockshop.com in Charlotte North Carolina. They do custom stuff. On their webpage they have a bumper that replaces the end caps and rear quarter panels, has two D-ring tabs, a receiver hitch and tire carrier. The estimate they gave me was $400 give or take. I haven't used them yet, but the bumper looks pretty tough to me.

http://www.carolinarockshop.com/images/products/bumpers/XJ-rear-01.jpg

http://www.carolinarockshop.com/images/products/bumpers/XJ-rear-01.jpg

formatt
January 11th, 2005, 08:29
doesnt kennesaw mountain make one? i saw it on a 97+ xj. looks good too. www.kenmtn.com (http://www.kenmtn.com) i believe. have them send pics.

does anyone have any experience with dealing with these guys or their product? i definitely like their setup!!

Jeepin Jason
January 11th, 2005, 09:23
their latch design looks pretty cheap and flimsy to me -- just a drop pin. That's like what everyone was using 5+ years ago. Looks like the bumper ends stick out pretty far too. Otherwise it looks well outfitted. d-ring tabs, optional 2" receiver, tire carrier sits on top of the bumper, and it even comes with a lighted license plate mount. All for $575, which is significantly cheaper than even C4x4 once you factor in the 2" reciever.

They really need better pics and more info on their tire carrier (latch and hinge design) though...

offroadman83
January 11th, 2005, 09:27
There has been a lot of bad review of the business end of kennesaw mountain. I wouldn't buy from there if you paid me too. Do a search here and on jeeps unlimited and you will see what I mean.-------Kyle

formatt
January 11th, 2005, 09:35
i was just sent a bunch of links regarding their product and service... i think i'll avoid them.

i REALLY like c4x4.com's bumper but i'm not into the way it flush mounts to the back face. i'm sure it's strong but i'd rather have the spindle on top.. personal preference. anyone know of a decent priced bumper that offers the quality/look of c4x4's and the top mounting of kennesaw's?

Ideally, BPI's bumper was the perfect bumper for me. i've seen it up close and it'd be pretty tough to beat that quality but BPI sold the rights to it to PSC. PSC raised the price to something that's just completely unreasonable so now i'm searching again.

Jeepin Jason
January 11th, 2005, 10:20
everything else I know about is all going to be in the $900 range... Warn & Durango4x4.

PSC/BPI and Garvin Wilderness are both in the $1200 range.

Rusty's has the TJM bumper/tire carrier listed for $790, and I'd certainly take it over any of the 4 brands above. Tomken's junk is, junk, and it's face-mounted like C4x4's.

Olympic probably has a bumper/tire carrier, but well... it's Olympic, 'nuff said.

And who knows when AEV's setup will be available again, or what it will cost...

Red97XJ
January 11th, 2005, 18:16
call mike at C4x4 and tell em what you want. He will most likely suprise you with what he will do custom for none or not alot extra.

Jason

Mike L
January 12th, 2005, 22:09
www.carolinarockshop.com in Charlotte North Carolina. They do custom stuff. On their webpage they have a bumper that replaces the end caps and rear quarter panels, has two D-ring tabs, a receiver hitch and tire carrier. The estimate they gave me was $400 give or take. I haven't used them yet, but the bumper looks pretty tough to me.

http://www.carolinarockshop.com/images/products/bumpers/XJ-rear-01.jpg

http://www.carolinarockshop.com/images/products/bumpers/XJ-rear-01.jpg

Looks pretty good to me as well. Anyone running this bumper or know any more info on it?

-Mike

Lavacrawler
January 13th, 2005, 22:03
Try Steve @ www.cbioffroadfab.com
look for the XJ bumpers in his image section.
He built my front bumper and it's taken every pounding my wife can throw at it.
Hoping to get a rear made very soon

jnackos
January 14th, 2005, 02:01
I really like my C-Rok bumpers. The rear bumper had the best clearance/departure angle of any plate steel bumper I could find.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3e59b8aa/8d7e/__sr_/bf5f.jpg?phPD65BBxH1sLOML
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3e59b8aa/8d7e/__sr_/ba28.jpg?phnM65BBvMDZfzv2

formatt
January 14th, 2005, 07:34
call mike at C4x4 and tell em what you want. He will most likely suprise you with what he will do custom for none or not alot extra.

Jason

damn... 2 emails later and i still haven't heard from the guy. it's a little tough for me to call there during business hours. anyone know if he checks his mail often or not?

thanks...

Jeepin Jason
January 14th, 2005, 07:37
damn... 2 emails later and i still haven't heard from the guy. it's a little tough for me to call there during business hours. anyone know if he checks his mail often or not?

thanks...

Lemme know what you're interested in and I'll see what I can find out for you (we're C4x4 dealers, so I talk to Mike fairly often).

formatt
January 14th, 2005, 07:48
Lemme know what you're interested in and I'll see what I can find out for you (we're C4x4 dealers, so I talk to Mike fairly often).

heya jason..

see my previous post (#28) on the first page... definitely love his bumpers but can't do the surface mount carrier. like i said before, i'm sure it's plenty strong but it's a matter of preference. ideally, his bumper with the same carrier mounting as something like BPI's.

i've emailed him a couple times with pretty detailed discriptions and asking for price quotes... if it's too outrageous, i'll just build my own. I just figure though, that if i can get one for a decent price, i'd just go that route.

speaking of mounting, anyone ever see Rockstomper's carrier mount?: Rockstomper website (http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm)

if i build my own, i won't even consider using anything else but this one... i love overkill. ;)

Jeepin Jason
January 14th, 2005, 11:36
Well, I heard back from Mike and he said they've never done an XJ tire carrier on top of the bumper before (though they do build their TJ setup on top of the bumper), and that it's "not something that can be easily done with our [XJ bumper] design."

If you want, I'll take a look at my C4x4 rear bumper when I leave work and see how much of the main body of the bumper extends into the end caps to see if you could sink that Rockstomper hinge in there. If you really like C4x4's bumper, you could always just get the bumper w/no powdercoat, and do the tire carrier yourself I guess.

formatt
January 14th, 2005, 11:59
eh. i'm not that attached to it. :)

thanks for checking on that one jason.. much appreciated! did you find out why he's droppin' the ball on his email reponses? ;)

Jeepin Jason
January 14th, 2005, 12:11
haha, I didn't ask about that, sorry. they stay pretty busy though and don't spent a lot of time on the internet. For "regular customers" the phone is definitely the best and quickest way to get in touch with them. heck, sometimes it even takes me a day or three to respond to folks over email. ;)

ylojelo
January 14th, 2005, 12:43
Testing....its all about testing........
The Slim-Line Bumpers Detoursusa.com is about to offer have been on a
number of rigs for almost a year now, we're less than a month away from the
offering to the public.....final details are currently being worked out. Lack of
photos on our site is for a reason, those who have emailed us (Thankyou)
have been provided with the answers they asked. Final budget & pricing is in
the works.........tire carrier is also in the works for those who may have
intrest in that set-up...
Our Slim-Line Series bumper is not just pressed steel, it contains a rectangular
tube sub frame as well, the 3 configurations will be all diamond plate, a mix of
diamond plate and smooth steel and all smooth steel known as the Smoothie.
Recovery points wont cost extra, a 2" reciever will be available, and............
.....we dont powdercoat our products, its a waiste of money in our eyes.

Now, get out there and go wheelin already!! :us:

post some pics here. I can''t even get your website to open that is if its www.Detoursusa.com

Hammertoe
January 14th, 2005, 13:47
Hmmm, just opened it off of your link. We use Pow-web as a server and
they've been having problems lately.......sorry.

Drop us an email, I'd be happy to send you some pic's, have had a number of
requests and have forwarded additional pictures not on site yet. Not sure how
cool it would be posting our own pictures.........
Email address is on site, or pm with info.

:us: