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Jeep XJ Cherokee Ulitmate Sliders now available!
- Thread starter jcroffroad
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cencal96xj
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- Nipomo, CA
depending on paychecks and b day coming up i hope to be getting a set of these 
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jcroffroad
www.jcroffroad.com
- Location
- Kalamazoo, mi
Yah, you would need to be able to get some strength from the factory rocker panels.
SanDiegoOverland
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- San Diego
I REALLY like these. Thanks for pushing the envelope of what's available for XJ's. I had a similar product from Rokmen on my LJ wrangler, and honestly it was stout as F***.
Love, love that I don't lose 2" of clearance at the rocker panel, as is the case with normal sliders.
I think these will be the ones for me.
Love, love that I don't lose 2" of clearance at the rocker panel, as is the case with normal sliders.
I think these will be the ones for me.
MG2000XJ
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- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT
Are there any customer photos of these or a customer install write up?
jcroffroad
www.jcroffroad.com
- Location
- Kalamazoo, mi
We haven't seen or heard anything really. We have over 50 sets out on the market too.
DutchVDub
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- Location
- Milliken, CO
I recently installed these and while the end result made me happy the install sucked and I wound up having to weld them on due to the bends not being quite right.
Finished pic:
And for the record, I tried calling you guys and left a voicemail in regards to them the monday after I installed them.
Finished pic:
And for the record, I tried calling you guys and left a voicemail in regards to them the monday after I installed them.
Honestly, I think welding them on is the best idea anyway. Maybe use the bolts on the fender, but weld to the rocker panel at the bend just below the door and weld down below on the pinch seam. Still need some kind of tie in that goes to the frame, but hell, weld that on too haha.
Mine also did not fit well so i welded them on. It seems like it would be stronger and easier then the nuts. mines manlly a trail rig so welding them didn't bother me. If it was a street rig i would not have been happy with the fit. If I did them again i would have just done boat sides. They held up fine so fare but i only have one trip on them. Did pivot on them around a few trees.
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
I just welded mine along the top edge, under the door. I might also drill some small holes (being careful not to go through the body underneath) so I can add plug welds along the rockers too.
My issue was that with the sliders up as tight to the body as possible and looking "right" the brackets were actually below the frame rails. After getting them bolted to the pinch seem and frame there was a good 1/2" gap between the bottom of the slider and the brackets. When I tightened the bolts the slider pulled away from the body at the top edge. The rocker actually pulled out with the nutserts and there were gaps between the slider and the rocker between each nutsert.
My solution was to take the slider back off, use a dead blow to beat the rocker back in at the nutserts, and then bolt the slider back to the rocker tightly with the bottom bolts loose. I then welded the top edge to the rocker and tightened the bottom bolts up all the way. With the slider firmly attached at the top edge it bent up tight to the brackets w/o further distortion to my rocker.
I am happy with the final look, and really like that it allows you to maintain the majority of your ground clearance. In the end though, after the pain of installation and having to weld steel to sheet metal anyways, I kind of wish I had just cut out my rockers and replaced them with 2x6 boxed tubing instead. It really wouldn't have been much more work and it would have been a lot cheaper.
Its ok though, it just got me motivated to get back into fabbing my own stuff. I mean why pay lots of money for stuff that doesn't fit right when I can just make ill-fitting things myself? I was burnt out of fabrication after building and then parting out my YJ. This reminded me why I started making things for myself in the first place. I just hope these things hold up as they're now permanently attached to the Jeep.
My issue was that with the sliders up as tight to the body as possible and looking "right" the brackets were actually below the frame rails. After getting them bolted to the pinch seem and frame there was a good 1/2" gap between the bottom of the slider and the brackets. When I tightened the bolts the slider pulled away from the body at the top edge. The rocker actually pulled out with the nutserts and there were gaps between the slider and the rocker between each nutsert.
My solution was to take the slider back off, use a dead blow to beat the rocker back in at the nutserts, and then bolt the slider back to the rocker tightly with the bottom bolts loose. I then welded the top edge to the rocker and tightened the bottom bolts up all the way. With the slider firmly attached at the top edge it bent up tight to the brackets w/o further distortion to my rocker.
I am happy with the final look, and really like that it allows you to maintain the majority of your ground clearance. In the end though, after the pain of installation and having to weld steel to sheet metal anyways, I kind of wish I had just cut out my rockers and replaced them with 2x6 boxed tubing instead. It really wouldn't have been much more work and it would have been a lot cheaper.
Its ok though, it just got me motivated to get back into fabbing my own stuff. I mean why pay lots of money for stuff that doesn't fit right when I can just make ill-fitting things myself? I was burnt out of fabrication after building and then parting out my YJ. This reminded me why I started making things for myself in the first place. I just hope these things hold up as they're now permanently attached to the Jeep.
ingenio
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- Juarez Chih MX
My issue was that with the sliders up as tight to the body as possible and looking "right" the brackets were actually below the frame rails. After getting them bolted to the pinch seem and frame there was a good 1/2" gap between the bottom of the slider and the brackets. When I tightened the bolts the slider pulled away from the body at the top edge. The rocker actually pulled out with the nutserts and there were gaps between the slider and the rocker between each nutsert.
I had the same exact issue this afternoon while I tried to "try/mock up" my ultimate sliders on my XJ. These had been in the garage /boxed for close to 3 months, and now I find this issue.
I hope you guys @ JCR jump in to this post, notifying us you found the root cause and corrections were made, at least for all new orders.
regards
Pedro
pedro
I had the same exact issue this afternoon while I tried to "try/mock up" my ultimate sliders on my XJ. These had been in the garage /boxed for close to 3 months, and now I find this issue.
I hope you guys @ JCR jump in to this post, notifying us you found the root cause and corrections were made, at least for all new orders.
regards
Pedro
pedro
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monkeyevil
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- Kalamazoo, MI
This is the first time I've heard any issue at all, or received any feedback. I will look into the issue and let you know of a solution. I apologize to anyone where these didn't fit as intended. Send me an e-mail at daryl at jcroffroad.com if you had problems getting them to fit.
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
Email sent
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
This thread died quick, and my email (just like my voicemail) has yet to be answered.
monkeyevil
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- Kalamazoo, MI
Sorry had to dig through my junk mail to find your messages, I apologize. I replied.
I've been checking the sliders that have gone out since I've became aware of this issue, and they have been correct based on our original measurements, and the ones installed on our XJ. So I think any incident was isolated to either how the press was set-up, or some other factor.
I sincerely apologize for any issues that were had installing them. Please feel free to shoot me an e-mail if you have any more questions.
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
Got it man, thanks.
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
Hey Daryl, I got that other email. Thank you very much. I appreciate it a lot.
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
Well here you guys go, I just got back from running Red Elephant which is a fairly easy yet steep trail with only 1 real obstacle on it. On that solitary obstacle I set my passenger side rocker on the top edge of a solitary rock and then pivoted around the rock. Here is the aftermath from this little "test" of the "Ultimate" sliders.
I literally mean, set down. It didn't slam down hard, in fact it went so smoothly onto the rock it didnt even make a sound. The Jeep pivoted on said rock as we tried to get the Jeep oover the next rock before finally admitting defeat and just winching through like everybody else. Afterwards I went to open the back door and was shocked to realize that just by leaning the Jeep into/on this rock my tubing on my rocker guard was now interfering with the door. Here is the aftermath:
You can see a nice big dent in the the tubing and in the door itself back where the tubing meets the rocker
The door now drags across the tube when you open it
Here you can see how it caused the entire rocker to fold in and deform
Even better in this pic, notice how the rocker was pushed in so much that the bottom edge of the door doesn't meet it at all
Here you can see how the plating from the slider actually caused the the sheet metal to tear as it pushed in
This also caused the backside going into the inner fender to deform outward with a nice jagged point
That nice jagged point decided to take my nearly new Krawler and tear it to shreds, so there goes 450$ worth of tire being chewed to crap by 450$ worth of useless slider
To make matters worse in my mind was the fact that all the other XJ's in our group pivoted along that rock in almost the exact same manner. Not only did the guys running traditional under the rocker sliders not suffer any damage, but my buddy running the same lift/tire size as me and no slider what so ever didn't suffer anything more than just a simple dent in his rocker. These "Ultimate" sliders actually caused me to suffer more damage than the guy w/o any rocker protection at all!
So yeah, tomorrow I'm going to a buddy's shop that has floor anchors and we're going to try to pull the rocker back down and out. I'll patch it up for now but over the winter these hunks of junk are getting cut off and I'm going with the 2x6 square tube rocker replacement method I should have done in the first place. So much for keeping the Jeep all nice, and so much for spending the extra money and buying something of "quality" to save myself a lot of work building something myself.
I literally mean, set down. It didn't slam down hard, in fact it went so smoothly onto the rock it didnt even make a sound. The Jeep pivoted on said rock as we tried to get the Jeep oover the next rock before finally admitting defeat and just winching through like everybody else. Afterwards I went to open the back door and was shocked to realize that just by leaning the Jeep into/on this rock my tubing on my rocker guard was now interfering with the door. Here is the aftermath:
You can see a nice big dent in the the tubing and in the door itself back where the tubing meets the rocker
The door now drags across the tube when you open it
Here you can see how it caused the entire rocker to fold in and deform
Even better in this pic, notice how the rocker was pushed in so much that the bottom edge of the door doesn't meet it at all
Here you can see how the plating from the slider actually caused the the sheet metal to tear as it pushed in
This also caused the backside going into the inner fender to deform outward with a nice jagged point
That nice jagged point decided to take my nearly new Krawler and tear it to shreds, so there goes 450$ worth of tire being chewed to crap by 450$ worth of useless slider
To make matters worse in my mind was the fact that all the other XJ's in our group pivoted along that rock in almost the exact same manner. Not only did the guys running traditional under the rocker sliders not suffer any damage, but my buddy running the same lift/tire size as me and no slider what so ever didn't suffer anything more than just a simple dent in his rocker. These "Ultimate" sliders actually caused me to suffer more damage than the guy w/o any rocker protection at all!
So yeah, tomorrow I'm going to a buddy's shop that has floor anchors and we're going to try to pull the rocker back down and out. I'll patch it up for now but over the winter these hunks of junk are getting cut off and I'm going with the 2x6 square tube rocker replacement method I should have done in the first place. So much for keeping the Jeep all nice, and so much for spending the extra money and buying something of "quality" to save myself a lot of work building something myself.
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- San Diego
wow.... that sucks. but you were gonna do that to the krawler anyway
ouch i had some of the same problems with install but since i have a rust free solid jeep mine held in good as i tightened the bolts up on the bottom.
i slammed mine into a rock in rausch creek that it dented the slider below the rocker about 4 inches round but no damage to anything else and i mean dropped it on a rock.
i slammed mine into a rock in rausch creek that it dented the slider below the rocker about 4 inches round but no damage to anything else and i mean dropped it on a rock.
