Cheap SYE Alternatives?

I searched around a bit for a budget SYE option and all I could find was an article here by old_man that required more parts/tools than I have access to. Does anyone have any ideas for how to do an SYE for fairly cheap? I know RE has a SYE kit for about $200. Any ideas that are cheaper than that?

Edit: Please don't mention T-case drops.

hack n tap with a front driveshaft is the cheapest. how much lift do you have? you might be able to do a tc drop and a shim with a tj yolk
mike

94xj6.5 said:

hack n tap with a front driveshaft is the cheapest. how much lift do you have? you might be able to do a tc drop and a shim with a tj yolk
mike

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I want to try an avoid a T-case drop. I'll be putting about 3.5~4" of lift in the back.

I went this route:
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoSYEconversion.htm

and got the output housing from the Eric (link in the write-up)
$50 for the housing and seal
$100 for the Yoke
$40 for a DS from the junkyard

I just recently installed a Advanced Adapters SYE. it was about $200, the only tools you'll need are basic sockets and some lockring pliers which are about $18 at advanced auto.
But you have a 5 speed/d35 dont you hubba? so according to this thread a front drive shaft wont work for you. http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=987766

Do I even need an SYE for 3" of lift?

If I do, what other options do I have for a 5-speed with a D35 (not many, I know)

Please don't say t-case drop...

Not really needed unless you shim correctly. I would say a 4 degree shim should fix it good. If not I am sorry to say you will need a t-case drop. If you don't wanna loose clearance i would say go with the rustys tcase crossmember with added 1 inch drop I had one that i gave away for free. I should have sold it for money But I didn't need it and got it gone the day after i posted it.

Also you can get an extended yoke for the input to the tcase which is an inch or so longer. I think i have a friend that has one that i could possibly steal haha.

Crimzon316 said:

Not really needed unless you shim correctly. I would say a 4 degree shim should fix it good. If not I am sorry to say you will need a t-case drop. If you don't wanna loose clearance i would say go with the rustys tcase crossmember with added 1 inch drop I had one that i gave away for free. I should have sold it for money But I didn't need it and got it gone the day after i posted it.

Also you can get an extended yoke for the input to the tcase which is an inch or so longer. I think i have a friend that has one that i could possibly steal haha.

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:dunno: unless?? do you mean if?

Where do I get shims and how do I install them?

some new leaf packs come with em. like my RC 4.5 inch ones came with a 6 degree shim. You can also get em at any spring shop or 4x4 shop. They install directly under the leaf inbetween the axle and the spring.

And what i mean by unless Is you don't really need an sye on that amount of lift. You might not even get vibes at all just stock. But if you go any bigger then 4.5 you will need an sye.

my rc 4.5 packs came preshimed too.

If you have room, you can space your engine mounts up 1" to change the driveline angle. That might be enough for a 3-4" lift.

SYEs are forced down peoples throat on this site. I had 6.5" lift and no sye on a 99 xj with a t case drop and shims and didnt have a problem. My 91 has 4.5-5" lift and has no problems even at the "H" on MPH (whats that like 120?). My buddy has a 97 xj at 8" lift a 1 in t case drop, no shims, on a stock drive shaft and doesnt get vibrations untill 80 mph. EVERY JEEP IS DIFFERENT. I always alway say lift it first, then decide if you need one.
Odds are you probably wont need one if your driveline is all good at 3.5. You can do a t-case drop which you dont wanna hear, so I wont tell you thats its the route you should go because your obvously on a budget. You can also get rear axle shims and correct your pinion angle, if you go this route just get the solid steel ones, because the cast and cast alluminum ones brake all the time. The cheapest route to go with a SYE is a hack n tap w/ a front shaft.

orrin-xj said:

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merc...en=PROD&Store_Code=IROR&Product_Code=IR-X_HNT

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x2- This is a hack n tap with a rebalanced driveshaft and a nice set of instructions. Will work for an NP242 just fine as well.