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Obamas Connections To Arabs

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While Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama “has tried to push his origins into the background, his ‘Islamic roots’ have won him a place in many Arabs’ hearts.”
That’s the observation of Iranian-born commentator Amir Taheri, whose column in Tuesday’s New York Post notes that many Arabs and other Muslims see Obama as “one of them.”
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They see that Obama has Arabic-Islamic first and middle names: Barack means “blessed” and Hussein means “beautiful.” His last name is Swahili, an East African language based on Arabic, Taheri writes. His sister is named Oumah, Arabic for “the community of the faithful;” his daughter Malia bears the name of a daughter of the noted Caliph Othman; and his father and stepfather were both Muslims.
Although Taheri did not note it, Obama was raised partially as a Muslim when he lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather. While there, he studied at two schools and was registered at both as a Muslim student.
As such he received Islamic religious instruction, studied the Koran, and prayed with other students. He did attend mosque, albeit infrequently, with his stepfather.
Obama’s religious upbringing after Indonesia is somewhat of a mystery until his late 20s. At that point, Obama says he converted to Christianity after meeting the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in Chicago.
Still, Obama has maintained strong support from American Muslims, including Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam movement. Farrakhan has endorsed Obama and has called him the “messiah.”
These factors have made Obama a big hit in the Arab world, where he has received wide praise, including:
The Syrian regime has indicated its preference for Obama. Buthaina Shaaban, an adviser to President Bashar al-Assad, has written: “The change suggested by Obama is essential not only for the U.S. but for the entire human family.”

Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi called Obama “a Muslim” and said: “All the people in the Arab and Muslim world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcome him and prayed for his success,” although Qaddafi also expressed criticism of Obama’s comments on the future of Jerusalem.

Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef said this year: “We like Mr. Obama and we hope that he will win the election.”

Hezbollah’s second in command, Sheik Naim al-Kassim, urged Americans to vote for Obama as a step toward peace with Islam, and pro-Hezbollah columnist Amal Saad-Ghorayeb said there is “no doubt Arabs should welcome an Obama presidency,” according to Taheri.

In Saudi Arabia, commentator Hussein Shobokshi wrote that an Obama presidency “would mark an important moral transformation in the superpower and is a healthy indicator of the long-awaited improvement in the international arena.”
Some columnists also have noted Obama’s close ties to several Palestinian radicals, including Columbia University Prof. Rashid Khalidi — former communications director for the Palestinian Liberation Organization — and another Palestinian political activist, the late Edward Said.
The “Arab street” also favors Obama. Recent surveys found that he is the preferred candidate in Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.
 
For the love of God stop spreading these lies and rumors. He attended CATHOLIC school in Indonesia.

Do you understand how deep the Bush family ties are to the Saudis?
 
Yes these lies are sooo stupid! Just watch the tape of him at the party That the media wont release. Look at the comments made by Ahmedinijad (or however you spell that P.O.S.'s name) read the comments made by Obama himself. Stop being so stupid, HE, The Chosen One hangs out with William Ayers (a known, and unrepentant terrorist), He, is backed by Resco, and has raised all the money a candidate could raise. He is the chosen one, you people whom try to find out the truth, medical records? Just because his sister says he was born in one hospital and he claims to have been born in another, why should the medical records count? Remember, He is such a powerful speaker, and can draw such large crowds, remember, so could Hitler. Redistribute the poverty, the socialist agenda is coming for all whom dare to achieve. You fools.
 
He is such a powerful speaker, and can draw such large crowds, remember, so could Hitler.

Congratulations on proving Godwin's Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

So Hitler was a good speaker and Obama is a good speaker so Obama must be the next Hitler? Give me a break.

People are fired up about Obama not because he's Obama but because they hate Bush and and want to punish the republican party for making a mess of the economy and Iraq. Have you seen Bush's approval ratings lately? I like McCain and I think he had a lot of potential but face it, he's already lost.

Could we get some arguments against Obama that focus on issues and perhaps cite reputable sources instead of just cutting and pasting opinionated and false diatribes? The Ayers connection is a good point. Ayers is a sketchy guy. This "He's a Muslim" baloney has got to stop.


Personally I think Ayers should have been :hang: The courts disagree. He got a fair trial and he got off. Innocent until proven guilty. Lucky for him I guess. It is pretty sketchy that Obama associated with the guy at all, although the association does appear to have been minimal.

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OMG TEH PREZIDANT KISED A TERRIST! HE SI A TERIST AND GAY! :gee:
 
Congratulations on proving Godwin's Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

So Hitler was a good speaker and Obama is a good speaker so Obama must be the next Hitler? Give me a break.

People are fired up about Obama not because he's Obama but because they hate Bush and and want to punish the republican party for making a mess of the economy and Iraq. Have you seen Bush's approval ratings lately? I like McCain and I think he had a lot of potential but face it, he's already lost.

Could we get some arguments against Obama that focus on issues and perhaps cite reputable sources instead of just cutting and pasting opinionated and false diatribes? The Ayers connection is a good point. Ayers is a sketchy guy. This "He's a Muslim" baloney has got to stop.


Personally I think Ayers should have been :hang: The courts disagree. He got a fair trial and he got off. Innocent until proven guilty. Lucky for him I guess. It is pretty sketchy that Obama associated with the guy at all, although the association does appear to have been minimal.

bush_kiss.jpg

OMG TEH PREZIDANT KISED A TERRIST! HE SI A TERIST AND GAY! :gee:

Saying Ayers is a sketchy guy is like saying Hitler didn't have a lot of Jewish friends. If you're going to defend Obama, at least try to talk like someone who is trying to convey the truth, not cover up for their best friend.
 
People are fired up about Obama not because he's Obama but because they hate Bush and and want to punish the republican party for making a mess of the economy and Iraq. Have you seen Bush's approval ratings lately? I like McCain and I think he had a lot of potential but face it, he's already lost.

I seem to remember the economy was doing pretty good until the Dems took over congress, maybe I'm confussed.
And the last time I checked, today, things are doing a lot better in Iraq. Now they talk about surging troops to Afganistan, and Barry doesn't want to do that either.

But yes all this non-sense about Barry being a Muslim is rediculous. He was in that school from age 6-10, sure things from that point in your life help mold who you become but they don't play as large of a part as your teens and years in college do.
Oh, its not a Catholic school, it is a muslim school but they accept all types of children to that school, regardless of religion.
Get over it, Barry isn't a sleeper terriorist.
 
According to Snopes, Obama's father was a non-practicing Muslim who had no significant contact with Obama after he was 2 years old. Obama's mother was a Christian but sort of a unitarian universalist who taught Obama a thing or two about several major religions, including but not limited to Christianity, Islam, Buddism, Shinto, and others. When Obama was 6 his mother and her second husband moved to Indonesia where Obama attended both a Catholic and a public Muslim school (Muslim by which to mean most of the students were Muslim. Indonesia is a mostly Muslim country). Both the Associated Press and CNN (yeah I know run by liberals) have investigated and disproven the claim that the Muslim school Obmama attended encouraged radical or extreme Islam.

OK Snopes isn't necessarily 100% accurate but I trust it more than viral political propaganda.

Anyway why should we even give a rats ass what a bunch of Middle Eastern leaders think about Obama? Are we supposed to vote for McCain because they like Obama? They're probably just stoked because he won't bomb the piss out of them just to steal their oil like some other presidents.

Since this is a Jeep forum, it would be much more productive to discus something like Obama's stance on motorized access to public lands or smog exemptions for classic cars.

Could we a get a link to this suppressed Obama party tape?
 
Saying Ayers is a sketchy guy is like saying Hitler didn't have a lot of Jewish friends. If you're going to defend Obama, at least try to talk like someone who is trying to convey the truth, not cover up for their best friend.

There's Godwin's Law again...

What Ayers did 40 years ago is indefensible. I can only blame the feds for screwing up their case against him and letting him get off on a technicality. But I can't condemn Obama just because they were both on the board at an educational non-profit and were occasionally in the same room. Politicians have to spend lots of time with unsavory characters. Hell I don't like everybody I work with. But I'm not going to quit my job because of it. One of my good buddies at work got arrested and convicted of grand theft auto when he was a teenager. He's now an old man and fun as hell to hang out with. Does that mean I'm going to go out and steal cars? Sorry, no.

If there was even a shred of evidence that Obama saw Ayer's actions in an even remotely positive light, then IMO that would be grounds for condemnation. But just because they are aquaintences? That's guilt by association.

Also what difference does it make what hospital he was born in? He could have been born in Kerplopistan and he'd still be eligible for President because he'd still have been born to a US Citizen and therefore be a "natural born Citizen" himself.

I think that these rediculous attacks have really done McCain a disservice. Most reasonable people can see right through these and don't appreciate them.
 
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For the love of God stop spreading these lies and rumors. He attended CATHOLIC school in Indonesia.
Speaking of "The Love of God" if he were a "Christian" he would not let people refer to him as "The Messiah" he would have set the record straight based on his belief in the faith...
 
There's Godwin's Law again...

What Ayers did 40 years ago is indefensible. I can only blame the feds for screwing up their case against him and letting him get off on a technicality. But I can't condemn Obama just because they were both on the board at an educational non-profit and were occasionally in the same room. Politicians have to spend lots of time with unsavory characters. Hell I don't like everybody I work with. But I'm not going to quit my job because of it. One of my good buddies at work got arrested and convicted of grand theft auto when he was a teenager. He's now an old man and fun as hell to hang out with. Does that mean I'm going to go out and steal cars? Sorry, no.

If there was even a shred of evidence that Obama saw Ayer's actions in an even remotely positive light, then IMO that would be grounds for condemnation. But just because they are aquaintences? That's guilt by association.

I think that these rediculous attacks have really done McCain a disservice. Most reasonable people can see right through these and don't appreciate them.

Then maybe we should elect someone who doesn't associate themselves with terrorists and religious radicals.
 
People are fired up about Obama not because he's Obama but because they hate Bush and and want to punish the republican party for making a mess of the economy and Iraq.
Um, during the Bush administration the stock market was the HIGHEST EVER, the economy was BOOMING
Were you living in a closet during all this?
 
Isn't it great how the media fails to acknowledge that the Dems had control of Congress this whole time and they screwed up the economy. Its not like Bush ran down to Wall Street one night and unplugged some shit. Meanwhile, Congress is just letting things circle the drain until Obama gets elected, then they will pass all this legislature and BOOM! Obama single-handedly fixed the economy.
 
No, Bush didn't pull the plug, obviously if he could have stopped it now he would have.

What do you mean "this whole time?" The dems only won congress 2 years ago and by then it was mostly too late to avert this. Bush and the Republican congress years ago pushed to allow the unsound lending practices that DID contribute to the crash. They sowed the seeds of failure. How long did you think that stocks and real estate could sustain 50% annual gains? It was all based on borrowed money and speculation. Like a giant pyramid scheme. "Hey lets all throw all our money in the stock market and drive up prices. Oh no we're out of money lets borrow as much as we can and plow that in. Oh no we can't borrow anymore money and now that we aren't pumping it into the market like crazy it's all crashing down to earth! Ahhh jump out a window!" It was inevitable. The exact same behavior led to the great depression and it's the sort of thing that the feds are supposed to prevent from happening.
 
What Ayers did 40 years ago is indefensible. I can only blame the feds for screwing up their case against him and letting him get off on a technicality. But I can't condemn Obama just because they were both on the board at an educational non-profit and were occasionally in the same room. Politicians have to spend lots of time with unsavory characters. Hell I don't like everybody I work with. But I'm not going to quit my job because of it. One of my good buddies at work got arrested and convicted of grand theft auto when he was a teenager. He's now an old man and fun as hell to hang out with. Does that mean I'm going to go out and steal cars? Sorry, no.

IMO there is a world of difference between stealing a car and blowing up buildings/plotting to over throw the government.


Also what difference does it make what hospital he was born in? He could have been born in Kerplopistan and he'd still be eligible for President because he'd still have been born to a US Citizen and therefore be a "natural born Citizen" himself.

This is pretty ridiculious too. I don't buy into this arguement that he was born in Africa, I think when his grandmother said that she was referring to something in her belief system or religion.
I'm not really sure about the "Natural Born Citizen" law, but I think if he was born overseas and one parent was a citizen and the other was not, then he is not automatically considered a "Natural Born Citizen". But like I said I'm not really sure.
 
IMO there is a world of difference between stealing a car and blowing up buildings/plotting to over throw the government.

Agreed. I've never met a domestic terrorist so I can't use that as analogy.


I'm not really sure about the "Natural Born Citizen" law, but I think if he was born overseas and one parent was a citizen and the other was not, then he is not automatically considered a "Natural Born Citizen". But like I said I'm not really sure.

You might be right about this. I checked on wikipedia and the law is actually kind of muddled on what exact type of citizenship children born overseas to US citizens have.
 
According to Snopes, Obama's father was a non-practicing Muslim who had no significant contact with Obama after he was 2 years old. Obama's mother was a Christian but sort of a unitarian universalist who taught Obama a thing or two about several major religions, including but not limited to Christianity, Islam, Buddism, Shinto, and others. When Obama was 6 his mother and her second husband moved to Indonesia where Obama attended both a Catholic and a public Muslim school (Muslim by which to mean most of the students were Muslim. Indonesia is a mostly Muslim country). Both the Associated Press and CNN (yeah I know run by liberals) have investigated and disproven the claim that the Muslim school Obmama attended encouraged radical or extreme Islam.

OK Snopes isn't necessarily 100% accurate but I trust it more than viral political propaganda.

Anyway why should we even give a rats ass what a bunch of Middle Eastern leaders think about Obama? Are we supposed to vote for McCain because they like Obama? They're probably just stoked because he won't bomb the piss out of them just to steal their oil like some other presidents.

Since this is a Jeep forum, it would be much more productive to discus something like Obama's stance on motorized access to public lands or smog exemptions for classic cars.

Could we a get a link to this suppressed Obama party tape?

:wstupid:Really? Who's oil have we stolen????
 
No, Bush didn't pull the plug, obviously if he could have stopped it now he would have.

What do you mean "this whole time?" The dems only won congress 2 years ago and by then it was mostly too late to avert this. Bush and the Republican congress years ago pushed to allow the unsound lending practices that DID contribute to the crash. They sowed the seeds of failure. How long did you think that stocks and real estate could sustain 50% annual gains? It was all based on borrowed money and speculation. Like a giant pyramid scheme. "Hey lets all throw all our money in the stock market and drive up prices. Oh no we're out of money lets borrow as much as we can and plow that in. Oh no we can't borrow anymore money and now that we aren't pumping it into the market like crazy it's all crashing down to earth! Ahhh jump out a window!" It was inevitable. The exact same behavior led to the great depression and it's the sort of thing that the feds are supposed to prevent from happening.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong...it was Clinton who signed the law(s) forcing Freddie and Fannie to lend to anyone and everyone....look it up...
 
What Ayers did 40 years ago is indefensible. I can only blame the feds for screwing up their case against him and letting him get off on a technicality. But I can't condemn Obama just because they were both on the board at an educational non-profit and were occasionally in the same room.
I would agree, if only that were true. It goes much deeper than that. Obama will have people believe that's as far as his relationship went, but they were much closer as friends and as associates. Despite the mainstream media sweeping under the rug Obama's real alliance with Ayers, the evidence remains. Do a little research.

In many cases, I think it's fine to give people that screwed up at some point in their life another chance. However, Ayers is completely unrepentent of his terrorist actions and even recently said his wished they had done more to further their cause.

Another thing that has received virtually no press is the curriculum that Ayers was promoting with the grant money. I haven't researched it yet, but understand it was very controversial.


If there was even a shred of evidence that Obama saw Ayer's actions in an even remotely positive light, then IMO that would be grounds for condemnation. But just because they are aquaintences? That's guilt by association.
Well, there is something to be said about "guilt by association." It's akin to rules in the government and across private industry that prohibit displaying even the appearance of impropriety.

I'm okay with hanging around people that did something wrong years ago as long as they know it was wrong, are sorry for doing it, and have turned around their ways. Ayers did none of those. I respect myself too much and have principles that prevent me from hanging around people like him. Obama does not. It doesn't mean Obama is a terrorist or that he supports domestic terrorism, but it says volumes about his character. That's the point. Unfortunately, this point is lost on people with simple minds.
 
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