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jeepcherokee95

NAXJA Forum User
Location
Missouri
I have the opportunity to pick up an XJ cheap...

It's an 87 and does not run that I know of...they say that the wiring is all undone from everything but it's supposed to run.

I can get it for less than $500 but does the FSM show how to re-install all the wiring?

What tranny did the 85-89 XJ's have in them? I know this is the renix motor by the funky looking intake it has on it - never seen anything like it, kinda square!

Is therer a way to make this thing just run to see if the motor is any good without hooking all the wiring back up first?

Worst case scenario what are the parts worth if I had to part it out?


Motor, Tranny, T/C, Rear (8.25 I think).....


Thanks for the advice in advance - Will check back later tonight.


JC95
 
I would be tempted to pass, unless he gave it to you for $100 or something ridiculous.

There are bound to be some "mechanic's specials" that run for fairly cheap. For example, there is a 1991 model with body damage and high miles that runs, for $700 in my town.

On the other hand, if you get it and decide you can't fix it, there is probably a gear head out there that will give you $500 just to have a piece of junk to tinker with.

Unless you are a good mechanic and have a place to work on/store this, again, I think I would pass.

Also, I don't believe the 1987 had the 8.25, unless it was swapped in. Check again, as I think the 1987's did come with the D44. If that is the case, I might rethink the purchase.

I'm certainly not an expert, just giving you the advise I would give myself if I were in your shoes. Do with it as you please.
 
langer1 said:
Motor, Tranny, T/C, Rear (8.25 I think)....
4.0L , AW-4 ,Np241 or Np231, Dana 44 Is it a 4 or 6? Is it automatic?.


UMM Im sure youi meant to say 231 or 242

the 8.25 was not available in that year

check and see if it has the Dana 44 if so it could be worth about 250-450 depends on your area..

I just bought one of these about a month ago
with a 4.0
AW4
242
Dana 44



I paid $250 for it
pulled the Dana 44

sold the dash bezel for $10
sold the rest for 150 (had it the paper , NAXJA, Pirate ) I had about
3 inquiries on parts
mostly on the tranny

as far as starting it
get a battery (hopefullly the cables are still there)
hook it up
take a long piece if wire .......and one end to the pos +
touch the other to the pos on the starter (underneath the engine near the bell housing adn see if it turns over..if so try some starter spray in the carb little bits at a time ,,,,carefull for flareups..

if you pull the front D30 axles they are worth about $35 each on ebay

if its a D35 the axles are worth about $35 each

skid plates .. I still got em
(cant even give em away)

I myself wouldnt bother unless it has the Dana 44

speciall if its a 4 banger

ya know what even if it does have the D44

I wouldnt bother for $500

rather get a 8.8 for the money

basically you would have to let it sit forever and piece it out so slowly you would never feel ya got the money back

orignaly posted by
Eric
2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and rock rash
My XJ website

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Last edited by EricsXJ : 06-23-2004 at 03:48 PM.







Re: Cherokee stock specs

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Common Design

All XJs were built as a "Unibody" design with the body and frame rails tied together as one piece as opposed to a body on frame design. All XJs have solid axles front and rear. The suspension consists of coils for the front and leaf springs for the rear. All XJs came with disc brakes in the front and drums in the rear.

Dimensions

(small differences may occur depending on optional equipment or trim level)

wheelbase = 101.4"
overall length = 165.3" - 168.8"
overall width = 67.9" - 70.5"
track = 58"
height = 64"
height with roof rack = 66.8"
ground clearance (from differentials) = 7.3" - 8.3"
approach angle = 37.6* - 38*
departure angle = 31* - 32.1*
breakover angle = 21* - 21.9*
curb weight 2wd = 2,891 lbs - 2,993 lbs
curb weight 4wd = 3,057 lbs - 3,386 lbs
cargo capacity = 71.0 cu ft.

Body

The body comes in both 2-door and 4-door styles with a rear hatch (liftgate).

In 94 side-impact beams were added in the doors and roof was strengthened. The 3rd brakelight was added to the top of the liftgate.

In 96 the body structure was strengthened some although it was not noticeable in appearance.

In 97 the body (and interior) was redesigned to freshen it up a bit. Most noticeably it gave the body smoother lines by changing the bumpers, flares, and moldings. The front fender was trimmed just below the headlights and replaced with plastic bumper endcaps that wrap around to the wheel well. The liftgate was also changed from fiberglass to sheet metal in this year. The windshield washer bottle was also moved to the inside of the drivers side front fender.

Engines

2.5L I4 carburated - 105 hp @ 5000 rpm, 132 ft lb torque @ 2800 rpm - used in 84-85 models
2.5L I4 TBI (fuel injected) - 117 hp @ 5000 rpm, 135 ftlb @ 3500 rpm - used in 86 and updated in 87-90 to 121hp
2.5L I4 MPI (multi-port injection) - 130 hp @ 5250 rpm, 139 ft lb @ 3250 rpm - used in 91-00

GM 2.8L V6 - 115 hp @ 4800 rpm, 145 ft lb @ 2400 rpm - used in 84-86

Renault 2.1L 4cyl. Turbo Diesel - 85 hp @ 3750 rpm, 132 ft lb @ 2750 rpm - used in 85-87

Italian VM 2.5L Turbo Diesel - 140 hp, 236 ft lb torque - used in overseas XJs

4.0L I6 EFI "Power Tech" - 177 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4000 rpm - used 87-90
4.0L I6 MPI "Power Tech HO" (High Output) - 190 hp @ 4750 rpm, 220 ft lb @ 4,000 rpm - used in 91-95 and updated in 96-01 to 225 ft lb torque @ 3000 rpm (00-01 models use a distributorless ignition system)

Transmissions

Manual Transmissions
AX4 - 4 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used 84-86 with 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 engines
T4 & T5 - 4 & 5 speed manual - manufactured by Borg Warner - used 84-86 with 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 engines
BA10/5 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Peugot - used only up to 89
AX5 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used with 2.8L V6 and 87+ with 2.5L I4
AX15 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by Aisin - used with 4.0L I6 engines
NV3550 - 5 speed manual - manufactured by New Venture - used in 00-01 in SE models with 4.0L I6 engines

Automatic Transmissions
Torqueflight 904 - 3 speed automatic - used 84-86 with 2.8L V6 and 2.5L I4 engines
30RH - 3 speed automatic - used with 2.5L I4 engine 94?-00
AW4 - 4 speed automatic, electronically controlled - manufactured by Aisin - used from 87-01 (87-91 models include a Power/Comfort button that adjusts the shift points)

Transfer Cases

The transfer cases used are all chain driven with aluminum housings. NP stands for "New Process" which is the brand, if you will. The newer ones are NV instead which stands for "New Venture". It is the same transfer case just a different name.

NP207 - "Command-Trac" part-time only - 2.61:1 ratio low range - used 84-87
NP231 - "Command-Trac" part-time only - 2.72:1 ratio low range - shift pattern 2H - 4H - N - 4L - used 87-01

NP228/NP229 - "Selec-Trac" - 4Hi(full-time) - N - 4Lo (part-time) - used 84-87
NP242 - "Selec-Trac" part-time OR full-time - 2.72:1 ratio low range - shift pattern 2wd - 4part-time - 4full-time - N - 4LO - used 87-01

Driveshafts

Front Driveshaft - On 84-87 XJs (NP207 t-case) the front shaft is a "GKN" style shaft. On 87-01 XJs (NP231/242 t-case) the front is a "double cardan" two-piece driveshaft with a CV joint at the transfer case end.

Rear Driveshaft - The rear is a one-piece shaft with standard u-joints at both ends. The slip yoke is located on the output shaft of the transfer case. On 84-95 models, the yoke slides in and out of the transfer case and is lubricated by the ATF fluid internally. On 96-01 due to a design change, the slip yoke is external (does not slide in and out of the transfer case). This slip yoke is covered with a rubber boot.

Axles

Front Axles
Dana 30 high pinion - reverse cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear - used 84-99 (some axles through 91 are vacuum disconnect, 92+ are non-disconnect, 89-95 with ABS have 5-297x u-joints, all 95+ have 5-297x u-joints, all others have 5-260x u-joints)

Dana 30 low pinion - standard cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear, 5-297x u-joints - used 00-01

Rear Axles
(Note on Dana 35 axles sometimes referred to as Dana 35C - The "C" does not stand for c-clip. It stands for "custom" meaning it came from Dana unfinished.)
(Note on 8.25 axles - none of these axles were used on XJs with ABS brakes. If you have ABS, you have the Dana 35. Without ABS you could have either axle. 8.25 axles are c-clip)

Dana 35 non c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 84-89
Dana 35 c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 90-01
Chrysler 8.25 - 27 spline, 1.17" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 91-96
Chrysler 8.25 - 29 spline, 1.21" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 97-01
Dana 44 non c-clip - 30 spline, 1.31" diameter shafts, 8.5" ring gear, 2.75" axle tube - used 87-89 on some(not all) XJs equipped with towing package.

Gearing

3.07 - used with 4.0L engine / manual transmission
3.31 - only available on older (pre87?) 2 door XJs with "Fuel Economy" package
3.55 - used with 4.0L engine / automatic transmission
3.73 - found in some XJs with the towing package
4.10 - used with 2.5L engine usually, and older XJs with the "Off-Highway Vehicle" package.
4.56 - rare but can be found on some older (~ 89 ~) models with 2.5L engine and auto transmission

Cooling Systems

Open style - any normal cooling system used today. Opposite of closed style described below.

Closed style - has no radiator cap and utilizes a pressure bottle. This style cooling system was used in 87-90 XJs.

Airbags

Drivers side airbag (mechanical) was added in 95.
Passenger side airbag was added in 97. Airbags changed from mechanical to electronic in this year also.


Production Numbers

# of XJs built in given year:

84 - 93,326
85 - 120,328
86 - 107,225
87 - 139,295
88 - 187,136
89 - 207,216
90 - 151,230
91 - 151,578
92 - 137,826
93 - 144,961
94 - 123,391
95 - 120,234
96 - 286,463
97 - 258,958
98 - 182,845
99 - 186,116
00 - 165,590 (Freedom Edition - 2,821)
01 - 120,454

Total = 2,884,172

Trim Levels

84 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief
85 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo
86 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo
87 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited
88 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
89 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
90 - Base, Wagoneer, Pioneer, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
91 - Base, Briarwood, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
92 - Base, Briarwood, Chief, Laredo, Limited, Sport
93 - Base, Sport, Country
94 - SE, Sport, Country
95 - SE, Sport, Country
96 - SE, Sport, Country, Classic
97 - SE, Sport, Country
98 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited
99 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited
00 - SE, Sport, Classic, Limited, Freedom
01 - Sport, Limited, 60th Anniversary Edition

Other resources:

Factory Service Manuals http://www.techauthority.daimlerchrysler.com/ or by calling:
1-800-890-4038 (US)
1-800-387-1143 (Canada)

DaimlerChrysler E-Fiche Service Parts Catalog 1981 - 1996
DaimlerChrysler E-Fiche Service Parts Catalog 1997 - 1999
DaimlerChrysler E-Fiche Service Parts Catalog 2000

Special Thanks to these guys who supplied information for this page:

brcomputer, TroyBoyM, glenzx, ageofzeppelin, balloo93, MJR, zappa UK, Amethyst, joeldavid, cbremer, 91XJLimited, SV1CEC, Jeep#4, White-Knight, Scs748, and BBJeepXJ89
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Eric
2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and rock rash
My XJ website

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Last edited by EricsXJ : 06-23-2004 at 03:48 PM.
 
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WOW! Thanks V.A.!!! what a plethora of information on that post...



Will go and check tomorrow as to the what and what nots and get back to everyone but the cost will be <$200 and figured if I could get it to at least run I could turn it for a profit of 3 or 4 hundred to someone who wants to build a rock crawler.

I would but I have another project to start for the winter...building a motorcycle!

Why? cause I wanna try it.


Thanks again.

JC95
 
Ok, checked today and the XJ is a 2WD 4dr model and has the 242ci I6 fuel injected and is a Manual shift...


Needless to say I am going to let that one pass even for $100 it doesn't seem like a good deal.


Thanks for all the opinons!


JC95
 
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