BPI Fab front bumper

[96XJCLASSIC]

Anyone out there with a BPI front bumper. Any problems?? Good quality? Good design? Ease of install? Good paint/PowderCoat? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, NICK

[96Classic]

I have their bumper. Great product for the money. The powdercoat was great too. I would recommend them to anyone lokking for a good, stout bumper.

Justin

[Eagle]

See thread "MORE Plagiarism" on Non-Tech

[Drewlee77]

Excellent product, excellent custormer service. The only way to get more approach angle would be to modify the radiator support. The welds are perfect and the design is stout. Check my webshots page if you want pictures...

http://community.webshots.com/user/drewlee77

[fatwreck]

Awesome bumpers....good customer service....both front and rear install quickly with the help of a friend. I guess I'm just repeating what everyone else has already said, but IMO they are well worth the money.
http://www.projectxj.com/images/trail.runs/05.03.03-chinamans/images/IMG_1808.jpg

[old_man]

I love mine. It is tough as hell. I would like to see the mount go a bit farther back and pick up another hole for support, but with the connection to the bottom of the rail, it is tough. I rolled my XJ over with the weight supported on the drivers front corner of the bumper and all it did was scratch the paint. The workmanship is as good as it gets.

Tom Houston
Loveland, Colorado

[robs]

I liked the look of the BPI and built my own...

http://members.intertek.net/~simons/xj/f13.jpg

It's all 3/16" tube and plate... weighs 84 pounds..

I thought it needed more support as well... the main brace is 1/4x6 stock... all grade 8 hardware...

http://members.intertek.net/~simons/xj/fside.jpg

[cagedxj]

I run their bumper too. I love it, only thing I would change is to add a hoop to protect the winch a little better.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/pef6091c8f2fc0d3626900b48b027fbfb/fbd18f45.jpg

[96XJCLASSIC]

Thanks Guys I am prob. gonna buy one. A winchless version. I am on a limited limited budget. I would really like to find one used. But i doubt i will. Anyone that knows of one for sale?? Thanks, NICK

[old_man]

They have only been available about 6 months. Might be hard to find one used.

Tom Houston
Loveland, Colorado

[fumble]

Anyone know where I might be able to find a BPI Winch Bumper for a 2000 XJ?

[poppabear]

they went out of business fo XJ's...

Mountain offroad and or Poison Spyder customs are the ones that look like BPI....

[LT1XJ]

The bumpers that Poison Spider sells are the BPI Fab's, not copies. I was told by BPI to purchase from poison Spyder
Dustin

[HEX-J]

How much do these bumpers cost? Curious.

[87CherokeeChief]

didnt the price go way up when BPI stopped making? Or at least thats what i thought when i compared poison spyder and the bpi site....

[basalt51]

How much do these bumpers cost? Curious.

try their websites

[Drunk tank]

BPI is still making the bumpers.... but they do not sell to public. Theyre supplying them to Poison Spyder now and then they are the ones selling them. The bumpers have a few new items on em as you can see from the http://www.poisonspidercustoms.com/ BUT! As with most things where a middle man is thrown in.... PS has jacked the price WAY up! For the new additions to the bumper, the price was was raised far too much and IMHO is no longer worth it. I love mine, but I got em when they were still young. The build quality is excellent though. BPI has always done alot of stuff for PS according to the guys at BPI when i visited their shop. Making all their bumpers and stuff even before this business deal took place. Now, I'd suggest AJ's bumpers http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/ From what I've heard from other with them, they are a great product, very customizable, and have a very reasonable price. If I need to ever get new front and rears, thats where I'll be going (unless I have a plasma cutter by then) ;)

[Bert]

Don't know if you guys have seen these, but www.rigidco.com makes a very similar bumper to BPI's. Mine was shipped today, so I will be able to give first hand opinions on it after the weekend. Terry (rigid co's owner) is a cool guy and will work with you on customizations. Its worth a look if you're looking for a new BPI-like bumper.

[Drunk tank]

Don't know if you guys have seen these, but www.rigidco.com makes a very similar bumper to BPI's. Mine was shipped today, so I will be able to give first hand opinions on it after the weekend. Terry (rigid co's owner) is a cool guy and will work with you on customizations. Its worth a look if you're looking for a new BPI-like bumper.

BLAH! The RIGID! When are they gonna put the hole in the clevis mount lower?? I wouldnt trust tugging on that bitch for the life of me...

[Bert]

I asked the same thing and judging from the pics I've seen and from what the maker of the bumper said, they've fixed that problem. I wouldn't judge a company by their prototype bumper.

[Mike L]

See thread "MORE Plagiarism" on Non-Tech

Didn't see anything in Non-Tech about it. Talk about the price, over at PS they now want $600 something for it. :scared:

-Mike

[Yucca-Man]

Didn't see anything in Non-Tech about it. Talk about the price, over at PS they now want $600 something for it.I've asked a few times without an answer; and since I haven't been shopping I don't have prices to compare. Whose prices haven't gone up in hte last six months to a year? Poison Spyder also has added a steering brace to the bumper as well, so you're going to see some price increases because of that. So, whose steel prices haven't gone up?

[DorkAlert]

I paid just over 400 for my BPI(RIP) bumber....I wonder if the price increase is in direct correlation with the increase in steel demand in China. Since those tariffs have been lifted steel prices have gone through the roof. I would watch for price increases to trickle down to just about everything as soon as most companies run out of back stock and have to purchase new inventory.

[Mike L]

I paid just over 400 for my BPI(RIP) bumber....I wonder if the price increase is in direct correlation with the increase in steel demand in China. Since those tariffs have been lifted steel prices have gone through the roof. I would watch for price increases to trickle down to just about everything as soon as most companies run out of back stock and have to purchase new inventory.

I understand the increase in steel prices being transferred back to the customers. But $200 worth?

-Mike

[DorkAlert]

Yeah..kind of suspicious...maybe they think the bumpers are way too cool for consumers...

[fumble]

I got a quote from Spyder yesterday. Here is what I got. The price skyrocketed!!!!

"I sure do produce the bumpers with some of our changes.
http://www.spydercustoms.com/brawler/dsc05624_med.jpg

The cost is $618 raw metal and $672 powdercoated, plus shiping.

You can order online at www.spydercustoms.com or 303.777.4820 and ask
for Karl."

All set!

[fumble]

BPI is still making the bumpers.... but they do not sell to public. Theyre supplying them to Poison Spyder now and then they are the ones selling them. The bumpers have a few new items on em as you can see from the http://www.poisonspidercustoms.com/ BUT! As with most things where a middle man is thrown in.... PS has jacked the price WAY up! For the new additions to the bumper, the price was was raised far too much and IMHO is no longer worth it. I love mine, but I got em when they were still young. The build quality is excellent though. BPI has always done alot of stuff for PS according to the guys at BPI when i visited their shop. Making all their bumpers and stuff even before this business deal took place. Now, I'd suggest AJ's bumpers http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/ From what I've heard from other with them, they are a great product, very customizable, and have a very reasonable price. If I need to ever get new front and rears, thats where I'll be going (unless I have a plasma cutter by then) ;)


AJ has great products! Highly Recomend!I have one on order from him, but won't be getting it for a couple of months, as he had an accident and is backed up! I was just looking for something cheap till then and BPI was a great price for the product! Damn that sux they had to go and merge with them!

[Colorado_XJ]

As far as the steel price increase goes, it's completely legit. I work in the trade and all the trade mags have features on it every month. Since September 03, steel prices for my company have risen a combined 71%. On the 27th, prices across the board from 4 of our supliers went up 10.2% due to China's most recent bid for our scrap. They are paying almost double what any other country is paying for scrap, and they are shipping it all the way around the world. Most other scrap-supplying countries have banned export to China, so that made a lot of things worse earlier this year. And don't forget about welding supplies...if raw steel prices go up, so does wire and rod. And everyone works percentages, so it what used to be $100 worth of steel now costs $150, the seller has to keep his % markup the same, but now it is on a larger number. At work, we have to resubmit bids every 30 days now to keep in line with steel price so we don't lose our ass when we get the contract.

On-topic for a moment...BPI makes terrific products. Anyone who has seen one first-hand will most likely be impressed. The price is a kicker, but the bumper may very well help save your life or aid in extraction someday. And it probably will last a real long time. Longer than 2 sets of tires, which might cost about the same or more $$. Something to think about.

-Rich

[shizza-my-nizza]

Yeah BPI bumpers are awsome. It sucks that the price went up so much because Poison Spyder is selling them now. I got my bare metal winchless BPI front bumper last september for $287.00 & $50.00 shipping. I have since modified the bumper to hold a Warn M8000 without losing any approach angle the d ring mounts stick out more than the hawse fairlead.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/shizza-my-nizza/DVC00040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/shizza-my-nizza/DVC00041.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/shizza-my-nizza/DVC00039.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/shizza-my-nizza/DVC00043.jpg

[old_man]

I run the BPI bumper. I lost my brakes the other day and totaled a Ford Explorer. I cracked the plastic on my grill. They are definately built tough.

Mine was actually the first one they built. I saw it at their shop and bought it on the spot.

[Big DaveXJ]

I'd suggest the Carolina Rock Shop- www.carolinarockshop.com if you're looking for a good bumper without the PS sticker shock. They'll build you one as simple as the first BPI one or something much more elaborate and it'll sure as hell be cheaper than what PS is charging for their slightly altered BPIs. They're getting a lot bigger but the prices are still better than any others I've seen. Check out their website or their plug in the New Bumper section in September's Four Wheeler mag. I dont think prices are listed on the website, but call them up and they can give you a quote since most of their bumpers are custom built to whatever you need.

[AJsArmor]

As far as the steel price increase goes, it's completely legit. I work in the trade and all the trade mags have features on it every month. Since September 03, steel prices for my company have risen a combined 71%. On the 27th, prices across the board from 4 of our supliers went up 10.2% due to China's most recent bid for our scrap. They are paying almost double what any other country is paying for scrap, and they are shipping it all the way around the world. Most other scrap-supplying countries have banned export to China, so that made a lot of things worse earlier this year. And don't forget about welding supplies...if raw steel prices go up, so does wire and rod. And everyone works percentages, so it what used to be $100 worth of steel now costs $150, the seller has to keep his % markup the same, but now it is on a larger number. At work, we have to resubmit bids every 30 days now to keep in line with steel price so we don't lose our ass when we get the contract.

On-topic for a moment...BPI makes terrific products. Anyone who has seen one first-hand will most likely be impressed. The price is a kicker, but the bumper may very well help save your life or aid in extraction someday. And it probably will last a real long time. Longer than 2 sets of tires, which might cost about the same or more $$. Something to think about.

-Rich

No offense Rich, but in the case of PS pricing compared to BPI......BS. There isn't $100 worth of steel in that bumper to start out with before the price increases. I'm bummed to see BPI not sell direct to the public with their XJ bumpers because they are an excellent product. Looks like a case of someone wanting a nice fat markup on it just for their name. :gag:

[XJClassic]

Anyone using the M.O.R.E. bumper with pics? I am trying to pick between it and the Hanson.... ?? both about the same price.

[gmanxj]

I've looked at both the MORE and the Hanson, and my brother used to have the MORE. He switched to RIGID's and very happy. Check them out!

www.rigidco.com

Fantastic designs and very well built.

[bgcntry72]

I got the BPI bumpers for front and rear for about $600 a set over a year ago.
Tim at BPI threw in the corner armor for free because he heard I was pitching the bumpers.
I think that BPI is now only selling the XJ bumper to Poison Spider, which is a bummer, because they are raping Jeepers.
I would go with the Hanson if I had to do it again, as I think it is the best match of style and strength.
My $.03

[Colorado_XJ]

AJ,

I get your point. I used the $100 just as a round number, not as anything "real". Anyway, the steel business is a mess right now. The supplier charges more, the distributor tacks on more, the fabricator adds on more, and by the time the end-user sees the same product, he is paying way more than the price increase should effect it. I am not saying the end user is going to see the same percentage increase as the distibutor (as they should). Crappy as it is, the truth is that the price increase almost doubles our end-product pricing on ornamental items. No ofense taken, BTW! :kissyou:

What was the reason BPI "folded" in the consumer market anyway? May very well be that the product was good enough to catch PS's eye and they bought them out for it. So, yup..sounds like someone gouging the 4-wheeler.

Oh, here's a crappy example of steel prices trickling down to the consumer...our local gas supplier sent a memo outlining a potential price increase on unusual items that are related to the steel mayhem. This list included oddball items such as gas bottles (made of steel after all) they are purchasing to resupply failed units, which means higher lease rates for bottles. These are nasty times we are living in, and AFAIK, the prices will rise clear into next quarter.

-Rich

[GAdawg]

I got the last one BPI sold to the public and haven't painted it yet but they are sweet. Highly recommend.

[bgcntry72]

I got the last one BPI sold to the public and haven't painted it yet but they are sweet. Highly recommend.

How do you recommend buying something that isn't sold anymore?
Have a nice day, rethinking your post.
:shhh:

[BajaXJ92]

I got the last one BPI sold to the public and haven't painted it yet but they are sweet. Highly recommend.

So when are you gonna get that thing on? :D

It was good wheelin w/ ya at CJ. Incase you've forgotten, I was tailgunner guide on Trail G with ya....

[GAdawg]

So when are you gonna get that thing on? :D

It was good wheelin w/ ya at CJ. Incase you've forgotten, I was tailgunner guide on Trail G with ya....

I know I need to get it together and put the bumpers on. No one I've seen yet has the grill gaurd for the front but I got it and need to get some pics up. I'm slow with painting! Thanks again for the great ride, hopefully i'll catch you in person again next year.

[GAdawg]

How do you recommend buying something that isn't sold anymore?
Have a nice day, rethinking your post.
:shhh:

Well the BPI bumpers are still the same even though sold by PS. I guess I am saying I still think they are worth getting even if through PS. Probably shouldn't advertise for BPI fab anymore ;)

[fatwreck]

No one I've seen yet has the grill gaurd for the front
I've got it ;):

http://www.projectxj.com/images/trail.runs/07.31.04-carnage/images/IMG_4702.jpg

It's my understanding that PS versions of the BPI bumper come with something similar that is permanately attached and it also includes a steering box brace.

[GAdawg]

I've got it ;):

It's my understanding that PS versions of the BPI bumper come with something similar that is permanately attached and it also includes a steering box brace.

Very nice :D Hopefully mine will look just like that in a few weeks. I talked to Tim about a week ago and he said that they were going to make the bumpers the same as they always have for PS. Maybe that changed or maybe they will offer both. Integrating a steering box brace on a bumper sounds wierd to me.

[Colorado_XJ]

The steering box brace is simply (AFAIK) accomplished by keeping the bumper mounting plate tall enough to allow use of the 3 steering box bolts to pass through. This way, you distribute and absorb a lot of the steering box torque through that plate into a wider area of the frame. C-Rok sells a separate unit that incorporates a plate spacer for between the frame and steering box (on the inside of the frame).

-Rich

[fumble]

I'm still lookin for a BPI Winch bumper for my 2001 XJ!

[PapaPump]

the JKS (MORE) SBS system has been shown welded to bumper mounts. it only makes sense to integrate the reinforcement. either your bumper mounts over the system or you cut they SBS and weld it over the bumper brackets. point is: the SBS systems, JKS and C-ROK both occupy the same place the bumper mounts, so why not just extend the bumper mounts back to serve both functions? RIGIDCO did, and I just ordered one.

[88flexj]

i bought my front bumper for $320.00, winch bumper. by the time i saved up enough cash for the rear bumper, the price was through the roof,over $500.00. i am glad i got it while the gettin was good. the bumper is awsome! you wont be dissapointed. dont waste your money on powdercoating. just paint it yourself. when you scratch it, you can touch it up with a rattlecan. you cant touch up powdercoating.